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  • Is it okay to be fat?

    I sometimes see or hear comments from people saying they should be happy or proud of their shape. Now ordinarily this would be correct. You shouldn't generally let other people dictate if your personal appearance is acceptable or not. However I think the difference with overweight people is that it doesn't only come down to how they look. Being overweight is unhealthy. Not only is it unhealthy but it creates the suggestion that you are lazy and gluttonous. After all, how many people would be overweight if they didn't possess either or both of these traits? So no I don't think it's generally okay to be fat. I think people should make time for themselves to get exercise and they should educate themselves and be disciplined enough to have a healthier diet. Including myself. In fact I am trying to do this now and I've been quite sucsessful. If people don't want to make a lifestyle change for their own good then whilst that is their right, they shouldn't be too upset when they get fat shamed. Sometimes fat shaming is a person's misguided attempt to encourage them to be healthier. Of course it can also be straight maliciousness too. No you shouldn't fat shame but at the same time if you are fat then you should assume people are going to judge you, bully you or try to persuade you to lose some pounds by being insulting. As if that ever works.
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    Being fat isn't OK health-wise. Like you said, there are a lot of problems that come with it and it increases your chances of getting a variety of health problems at later stages in life. However, people have a right to be unhealthy if they choose. There are plenty of people who aren't overweight, or are slightly overweight but not enough to be 'shamed', who on the inside aren't much healthier than overweight people, yet their diet and lifestyle is rarely called into question. People tend to use the 'you shouldn't be fat because it's unhealthy' attitude as an excuse to berate overweight people because they don't like the way they look, which is not OK.

    However, on the flip side, people who are overweight can't complain (which I have heard first-hand) about the promotion of healthier and more active lifestyles. That's something that should definitely be done, in the same way as smoking should be promoted as a bad thing. Similarly, they have to expect and accept that family members will worry about their health. In the same way you would keep on at a relative to give you smoking, you're going to want them to have a healthier diet.

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    • #3
      It's okay to be fat, it's not okay to tell everyone becoming fat isn't a bad thing.

      Sometimes being fat is out of your control, sometimes it was your own fault. In any case it's something that should never be glorified because it's objectively, unequivocally, unhealthy.

      I'm in two minds about the whole "Love yourself" thing because on the one hand yeah you should love yourself and you should have self esteem and such...but I also feel like you should want to be healthy unless medically exempt somehow. Which is nowhere near as big an excuse as people like to make it out to be.

      The fact that so many fat people are insecure about it to me seems like it should make it clear few people really want to be that way, no matter how much some will preach about how it's "fine" and that it being unhealthy is "just an opinion"
      If that were really true then making fun of ones appearance would have no effect.


      Other than the affect it has on the economy I don't care all that much about what adults do with their lives but I do think it's horrible how many people have obese children and just nonchalantly encourage terrible eating habits. I've seen so many children who can barely walk, barely breathe just stuffing more McDonald's in to their face.
      At the very least people should be obligated to encourage their kids to eat healthy and keep active, if they want to throw that away later in life then whatever, they make their own decisions.

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      • #4
        obesity is bad. overeating is bad. exercise is good.

        Failing to live by this does not make one a bad person.

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        • #5
          It's not good for your health, and often has adverse effects on your mental health as well (studies show that obese people tend to be more emotional). That being said, if a person is fat, I don't think it's fair to treat him as though he is lesser because of it. Being fat can be due to factors out of your control like thyroid problems, and even if it was your fault it doesn't really speak much in regards to your character.

          That being said, I am a person who has lost close to 100 lbs before, not because I think looking obese makes you less of a person, but because I wanted to have better self-esteem and not die of a stroke by 50.

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          • #6
            Yes, just don't actively try to gain weight... Like some women who think being fat is beautiful.

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            • #7
              If you're fat you may as well kill yourself.

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              • #8
                I agree with you. But I also think that in addition to following a diet, you need to have an iron willpower, thanks to which you can follow a diet. For example, many people don't have the willpower not to eat a piece of cake that is in front of them. I also agree that basically all fat people are lazy people. Sometimes it is even difficult for them to understand the diet itself and what it is. For lazy people, they have even invented specially apps where you can count calories and watch various workouts and all this in one app. For example like of this https://www.modernfit.com/programs/n...ight-watchers/.
                Last edited by Keiteene; 16-09-2020, 12:50 PM.

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                • #9
                  Why wouldn't it be ok? But indeed, It's okay to be fat, it's not okay to tell everyone becoming fat isn't a bad thing.

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                  • #10
                    As said it's not good for health. But we also live in societies that make obesity more likely, with the excess sugar in food (one modern can of coke contains more sugar than the adult upper daily limit), sedentary jobs, a work-life balance that pushes people to eat processed and sugary food to save time, a lack of cooking lessons in school, the promotion of money-making fad diets and gyms as a solution rather than more sustainable lifestyle changes and a reduction in green spaces to exercise in in many areas. Plus a lack of psychological and social services (look into the history of the ACEs study). I also feel that obesity is so endemic and normalised that not being non-overweight or eating healthily, is almost looked down on at times. With all these factors pushing people towards obesity, I think obesity can't be painted as a moral failing of the individual, because personal diligence is only one factor of many. We can point the finger at individuals, but the fact there are such bjg discrepancies in obesity rates between countries shows it's not about the individual but more about circumstances and culture and more importantly, blaming individual and washing our hands of any responsibility as a society won't make the problem go away. Encouraging personal responsibility will help some people a bit, but it will barely leave a dent in the epidemic as a whole. Education (on nutrition, cooking, exercise, habit-building) and regulation of the food market and urban development are what's needed, so that healthy life choices as it pertains to obesity, are as easy as possible or at least as easy as they were generations ago.

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                    • #11
                      To answer the question, yeah it is. To echo some of the sentiments expressed here being overweight isn't a moral failing.

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                      • #12
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                        • #13
                          I am fat and I'm feeling very ok. I don't have any health problems.

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                          • #14
                            It's ok to be fat but pay attention to health. Practice some sport, eat healthy use vitamins. All these are helping to maintain your health. For example, I can advise you to use red borneo kratom. It’s one of the most famous herbs that experts recommend for a variety of ailments, thanks to its immense medicinal properties. When you consume the herb, it induces the secretion of feel-good hormones within your body, supplying your muscles with sudden bursts of energy that positively impacts your workouts, while also increasing your sexual vitality.
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                            • #15
                              tl;dr: let people do their own shit and pay the consequences.

                              It's fine to be anything imo. Want to sell yourself out and smoke crack and die at 35? More power to ya. I won't judge, and it's your life. I will never understand why we have conversations about what other people should or should not do... at least not in hypotheticals as an intellectual exercise like this.

                              But if you do go off the deep end with something, be ready for other people to make you pay the consequences and if you hurt anybody along the way especially if they aren't complicit in the actions you're taking. Be ready for people to walk out of your life because they have their own personal liberties and can choose to do so and that's completely fine as well. They don't need a reason to not want to have something to do with you after all. Really it's up to people to be allowed to moderate themselves because they're adults.

                              Alcohol is legal, and generally has an extremely high amount of calories in it. The result of overdrinking kills a crazy amount of people either through poisoning the body or via drunk driving. These things will always happen no matter what we try to do to discourage the behavior.

                              People need to be allowed to make these mistakes though and either learn from them or show that they have good judgment and not overindulge. The more we try to police what's "right and wrong" or what's "okay and not okay" the more we alienate the people we're ostensibly trying to look out for. \

                              When you tell someone to stop eating so much because it's "not okay" or it's "bad for you"... well, these things are obvious. They know that. By telling them it's not okay only makes them not want to talk to anyone about it or seek help if they do wish to change. People will become introverted and hostile about it.

                              Change comes from within. Unless they're a specific type of person and you know how to encourage them, it's only going to - ironically - make it more likely that they continue their bad habits. When I was bullied for my weight in Junior High I lost weight due to the self image problems I developed because of said bullying and I did it the wrong way with the wrong mindset. Yes, people telling me essentially that it's not okay to be fat inspired me to lose weight... but it also made me anorexic and have body image issues because I hated myself that led to me dropping to around 140 lbs at 6 feet tall and not being able to see that I had gone overboard on the other end of the spectrum.

                              I know what I'm saying though in regards to this topic and I know we are strictly speaking hypothetically... but what I am saying is that by having conversations about this in society we effectively enable this kind of aforementioned behavior via creating an opinion on something that shouldn't really be opinionated. I think it's less okay (for lack of a better way to put it lol) to define someone else's own habits as okay or not okay than them personally partaking in them.

                              People need to mind their own business. While is it a minority of people that are overweight or obese due to some issue outside of their control, it is still not insignificant. And oftentimes people may ironically be overweight due to being poor. It can be seen as difficult to afford a healthier lifestyle when having a strict budget and being unable to choose what you eat as much. However, I do personally contest this as there are plenty of budget tight things that one can do to lose weight if they simply commit to doing it and realize they will be losing most if not all of what has caused their problem if they commit 100%. For example, I would simply stop buying sweets or treats like that. You cannot be tempted if you don't have the thing itself. It's that easy. But sometimes people aren't in complete control of their budgetary situation and when you are presented with unhealthy food choices and go overboard (because that's human nature) or your diet is regulated from forces outside of your direct control then it is obviously not laziness or gluttonous. It is situational. Simply put, yeah, fat shaming will happen... but I believe fat shaming to be worse than being fat. Much worse.

                              I believe nagging at a smoker to stop is worse than smoking. And, unless someone is destroying your life or your loved ones with their addiction, even if they're doing fuckin' heroin then they should be allowed to do it w/o your judgment being cast. People don't get help if they have no one to talk to that aren't objective to their situation. Why be honest about it at all if that is only going to bring judgment and not actual help for their problem? They will become outcasts. It will have the opposite effect. As long as they are doing it without hurting you then you don't have a platform to stand on and talk down to them. I really do think that far about it.
                              Brother! Your crusade IS OVER!!

                              NO...!!

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