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**+ Ginyu** · 14-01-2021, 07:23 PM

Update 1:
- Edited the expected seats according to current polls.
- Removed Lodewijk Asscher as PvdA leader, he stepped down as leader because of controversy. New leader is to be determined.
- Replaced Jezus Leeft with Splinter. Jezus Leeft is not to be taken seriously anymore and Splinter is apparently getting a slight bit of attention from pollsters.

**+ Ginyu** · 09-02-2021, 09:53 AM

Update 2:
-Updates all the parties to everyone who is confirmed competing. Removed all the parties that failed to sign up.
-Updated expected seats again. For those wondering, the range is literally just the lowest polling number that shows up as lower bound and the highest polling number that shows up as higher bound. The polling stations I'm using are I&O, Ipsos/1V, Kantar and Peil.

**Sam** · 11-02-2021, 03:09 AM

Ngl, I came here to meme about the Dutch but this stuff is actually pretty cool, Tom.

**+ Ginyu** · 11-02-2021, 08:53 AM

Might translate the most popular political test later so you guys can see which party you align with.

**+ Ginyu** · 11-02-2021, 11:33 AM

Alright, here’s a Dutch political test y’all can fill in and it’ll tell you which party to align with.
The link to the test is here: https://tweedekamer2021.stemwijzer.nl/#/
I’ll explain it a little bit and put translations of questions into spoilers below with some context. In general you’re gonna be asked question and you can click on either “eens” (agree|green button) or “oneens” (disagree|red button) there is also a grey button with “geen van beide” (neither) but I advise avoiding that button. Parties have very particular niche reasons to pick that stance and they also avoid it because the people avoid it too and the parties want you to agree with them. If you don’t know the answer to a question there should be a white button in the bottom right “overslaan” (skip) this ignores the question, I advise clicking that. Remember the question you find extra important, at the end you can click a bunch of question you find important so you can make them a little more valuable in the end result.
There are 10 parties that don’t compete. Coincidentally they are the 10 parties at the bottom of my table, they are incredibly unimportant anyway so doesn’t matter.
Make sure to read the question properly, some of them have negations in it which confuses many people. So: “Taxes should not be raised further”
Agree means: Taxes = bad
Disagree means: Taxes = good
Click start to start.
Vaccinatiebewijs (Proof of vaccination):

Spoiler Alert!

Defensiebudget (Defence budget):

Spoiler Alert!

Gratis kinderopvang (Free daycare):

Spoiler Alert!

Nederland uit EU (Netherlands out of EU):

Spoiler Alert!

Rekeningrijden (Road pricing):

Spoiler Alert!

Vuurwerk (fire works):

Spoiler Alert!

Vleesbelasting (meat tax):

Spoiler Alert!

Publieke Omroep (public broadcast corporation):

Spoiler Alert!

Zorgfonds (care fund):

Spoiler Alert!

Gezichtsbeddekende kleding (Face-covering clothing):

Spoiler Alert!

Volkshuisvesting (Public housing):

Spoiler Alert!

Btw op kunst en cultuur (VAT on arts and culture)

Spoiler Alert!

Kerncentrale (Nuclear power plant):

Spoiler Alert!

Woningen op landbouwgrond (Houses on farming land):

Spoiler Alert!

Belastingvoordeel huishoudens (Tax benefit for households):

Spoiler Alert!

Excuses slavenhandel (Apologies slave trade):

Spoiler Alert!

Correctief referendum (corrective referendum):

Spoiler Alert!

Inkomen leraren (Salary teachers):

Spoiler Alert!

Gevangenisstraffen (Prison sentences):

Spoiler Alert!

Vliegbelasting (Aviation tax):

Spoiler Alert!

Inburgering op locatie (Integration on location):

Spoiler Alert!

Legalisering softdrugs (Legalisation softdrugs):

Spoiler Alert!

Nederlandstalig hoger onderwijs (Dutch-spoken higher education):

Spoiler Alert!

Voltooid leven (Completed life):

Spoiler Alert!

Koppeling minimum loon en bijstand (Linking minimum wage and welfare benefits):

Spoiler Alert!

Sociale huurwoning (social rental housing):

Spoiler Alert!

Boerenbedrijven (farms):

Spoiler Alert!

Middenschool (Middle school):

Spoiler Alert!

Vluchtelingen opnemen (take in refugees):

Spoiler Alert!

Mondkapjesplicht (Mandatory face mask):

Spoiler Alert!

Alright, when you’re done it should now ask you which of the statements you want to add extra value to. You can pick a couple important ones, or maybe a whole bunch, or perhaps none at all. Decide yourself.
Next it tells you which parties you want to receive the results of. In the top left you can also click “alle partijen” (All parties) or “Zittende partijen” (currently seated parties).
I recommend either clicking all parties just to see who’s at the top and bottom.
Or clicking the seated parties and adding the relevant newcomers (BIJ1, JA21, Code Oranje, Volt) to see who you’d actually vote for had you been Dutch.
Next there’s two “I agree” boxes. The first one sells you data to China, the second one sells your soul to Satan. Just click ‘em both.
Now there’s gonna be a thing at the top probably where you can select two parties and answer some extra question to really narrow down your top result (just hit me up if you want to do that and want me to help, if you’re interested) but you can now just scroll down and see the results. My top 3 parties were D66, Volt and JONG. Big parties that followed close were 50PLUS, GroenLinks and PvdA.
At the bottom I had DENK, PVV and Jezus Leeft. Big parties that followed were FvD, CU and SP.
Have fun, share your results

**Guest** · 21-02-2021, 08:44 AM

Yeah I agree, this is pretty cool. This seems a lot more diverse than U.S. politics, that's for sure.

**MysticVegeta** · 01-03-2021, 07:47 AM

I like Geert Wilders

**+ Ginyu** · 15-03-2021, 10:38 AM

Alright guys, quick update on how things are going:

So the official election day will be wednesay (March 17th), but people are already voting. elderly people (above 70) could vote by mail if they wanted to and those who desired to do so have done it already. There are also extra voting bureaus open today and tomorrow (monday and tuesday) to spread traffic, these two days are mostly meant for people who are considered COVID risk groups. Older people, overweight people, asthma patients, but in theory anyone can use. (You're just an asshole if you do so). Wednesday is still the main day everyone will vote, including myself. The question as to who will be the biggest party won't be interesting, it's pretty much guaranteed to be the VVD. The most interesting issue now however is whether the current coalition (VVD-CDA-D66-CU) will get enough seats to continue governing. At the moment polls have their combined seats between 70 and 80 seats. You need 76 seats to govern. Also preferably a coalition has 36 seats in the senate as well so they have a double majority and can do what they want, after the provincial and senate elections in 2019 the coalition only has 32 seats. So an extra party might very well have to join after the election, that or a completely new combination has to be made.

In general what's interesting about this campaign is the amount of "anti-campaigning" this is when parties are campaigning against their competitors instead of in favor of themselves. You see this in different forms. Most parties are going very hard against the VVD, they're the big evil party that needs to be defeated and this is also where most seats are considered to be "floating" (likely to change). But there's also other ways of doing this. GL for example are campaigning in favor of leftism as a whole. Their party posters contain the names of the D66, PvdA and SP leaders in them. They're very much campaigning for a leftist front against the current VVD-CDA-esque government.

Another interesting aspect of these elections are the fractured parties. 2 or 3 newcomers will be joining the elections. JA21 and Volt are pretty much guaranteed to be entering parliament, and BIJ1 has a big chance as well. And even besides those two, the other small parties are putting up more of a fight than usual, Code Orange occasionally shows up in a poll, and pollsters keep mentioning the interest being shown in NIDA, BBB, Splinter and LHK. Though they won't get a seat, those parties usually remain unmentioned by pollsters. In other years the numbers were as follows: 2017 saw 2 new parties of which 1 was unexpected, 2012 saw 1 new party, 2010 saw 0 new parties, 2006 saw the loss of a party.

This is the current state for parties:
VVD: VVD is dropping in the polls, at the start of 2020 they had a huge surge in popularity. They got a lot of media attention because of Corona. Constantly in the news, and the VVD are leading the country. Because of the harsh campaigning against them they are slowly losing favorability, they're still at a gain in most polls but 1 poll is gauging them at a -2 loss. We'll see how much that trend continues the last couple days. I don't think they're final number will be far removed from their current 33. 31-36 seats is the expectation.

CDA: CDA was doing well at first, they were getting more popular, a better alternative to the VVD, but their leader Hoekstra has been very weak in the media. He was seen breaking COVID rules, during a debate with GL it was Klaver who knew the numbers of the CDA party plan better than Hoekstra himself. Recently they've been dropping back from a gain. CDA should be happy if they hold on to the 19 seats. Expectations right now are around 17 seats.

PVV: Always hard to poll. Low class low educated voters mostly. Never really lose or gain support. They're dependent on how popular FvD are and how many voters bother to show up. Rain might literally cost them 2 seats, not even kidding. Expected to be around 20, but could easily sway down to 17 or up to 24. As to how Wilders has been doing? Same old, same old. Provocative, attacking the VVD, keeps focus on Muslims. Does what he needs to do.

D66: D66 started off with a big loss as always when they govern. They call it the D66-'curse' but honestly they have themselves to thank for it. They've accomplished fuck all in 4 years of government. The new leaders seems to be getting more popular though. Helps that she's the part of the biggest party with a female leader. Also helps that they've focused their campaign on defeated the right. VVD, CDA and PVV are often victims of their propaganda. Also helps that the other left wing parties have been very weak.

GL: They've been pretty weak. Klaver keeps getting caught lying and telling these fake childhood stories. People find him unbelievable. Also their campaigning for a left block instead of their own party isn't helping. Think they're get around 10 seats. A significant loss.

SP: Starting to get more popular, right before the election there was a lot of controversy with communists being removed from the party and they stopped funding their youth organisation because of radicalisation. The party leader Marijnissen does seem to be getting back on track though, she's popular, strong in debates. 10-11 seats I'm thinking. Not as big a loss as initially projected.

PvdA: Expected a lot more from PvdA. Ploumen has been very weak in the campaigns. PvdA has a large potential, they had 38 seats in 2012. They fucked up in the coalition, went down to 9 in 2017, but this was their year to get back on track. Heck, they were the largest party in the European elections, but they couldn't pull that through to these national elections. 12 seats or so expected. Disappointing even though it's a win compared to 2017.

CU: Started off strong because of a strong governmental period, a lot of accomplishments with few seats past 4 years. Expected at 7 seats initially, but they've been very invisible this campaign. Don't know why. They're at 6 seats in every poll know, Don't think they're remaining at 5, but also don't think 7 is realistic anymore.

PvdD: Pretty weak campaign to be honest. Their slogan is "Plan B" but it's on the posters so big that I've literally heard people say they though the party name was "Plan B." Too invisible even though they had potential. 5 or 6 seats projected.

50+: Going down hard. Everyone is kinda coming to terms with the fact that 65 year pension age is unrealistic. Even the party leader is now saying that 67 is their goal, which the nr. 3 of the party disagrees with by the way. More internal struggles. Bad campaign, weak leader. 1 or 2 seats.

SGP: Always the same bible belt voters. Nothing special. 3 seats as always.

DENK: Always hard to poll. Azarkan has been pretty good in the media, but DENK has to get their votes from minorities, and they have a new party to vote for: NIDA. How popular this party is exactly is hard to tell, because again, hard to poll. Could be no problem and DENK remains at 3 seats, could lose a seat to NIDA, could also lose a seat purely to spoiler effect and not even give it to NIDA. And just like the PVV, most voters are low class and low educated. Turnout rates heavily affect votes.

FvD: Hard to believe these guys won the elections in 2019 for the senate and provinces and are now back down again. Had a potential of 28 seats, but right now looks like 6 or 7 is their absolute max. They got a little more popular last week because a talkshow let an untalented comedian to an awful piece on them, FvD capialised on that hate. But yeah, two years ago their goal was to win the election, and that goal was realistic. Now that goals seems laughable. 5 seats I'm thinking.

JA21: Real interesting these days. They're at 2 or 3 seats expected right now. But what's more interesting are the 8 seats they have in the senate. After FvD exploded in 2020 because of antisemitism controversies, Joost Eerdmans created this party and took 8 of the 12 senators with him to JA21. Say JA21 gets 3 seats and coalition ends up just short of that 76, a collaboration with JA21 because extremely appealing because of the massive senate seats. They seem to be the first sensible party on the right since LPF. Very interesting how they will fair in coalition talks.

Volt: Gotten a lot more popular in recent weeks. Especially after that started to reach seats in polls. A lot of people at first didn't want to vote Volt because they were afraid they were throwing their vote away. However, that's not a reason anymore since they've reached a seat in every poll. They're gaining rapidly now. I'm thinking 2 seats, but honestly, 4 doesn't impossible at the moment.

BIJ1: Hard to tell. Half the pollers are saying 1 seat, the other half is saying no seats. Gonna be 50/50 for them. Been invisible in the campaigns in my opinion. It's mostly the left wing on the Internet vouching for them. No surprise there as they're the most left-wing party competing in the elections this year. Tough to say, but I'm thinking they will reach that 1 seat.

CO: Opposite story of Volt, seemed promising at first, but as the elections approach more people seem to be thinking twice about it, their seat is very unsure, people leave, their seat becomes more unsure, more people leave, vicious circle. Don't think they're gonna make it. A lot of their support is going to JA21.

JONG: Been invisible, cringey propaganda which is odd cause these guys are supposed to be young. No seats for sure.

LHK: Semi-popular at first but support is dwindling, been too invisible in the campaigns, think they only function as a spoiler effect for 50+ now.

BBB: These guys are a farmers party, so they're hard to poll. Also dependant on turnout rates. Nobody is expecting them at a seat but you never know.
EDIT: Newest poll puts them at a seat, so indeed you never know.

NIDA: Another super small party, nobody is polling them at a seat, but again they're hard to poll as minorities like them. Might poach a seat from DENK, but probably not.

Splinter: Potential at first, but been super invisible since then, pretty much guaranteed at 0 seats right now.

LP: I was wrong about them. They're not an anarcho-capitalist party anymore, they've come to their senses, and honestly a very decent party. Too little, too late, 0 seats.

All other parties: Super invisible. Bad campaigns, not a chance.

**+ Ginyu** · 18-03-2021, 03:13 PM

Here are the current results. 346 out of 356 municipalities have been fully counted. I don't think they'll change a lot:

Party	Full English Name	Ideology	Percentage	Seats	Seats 2017	Difference
VVD	People's Party for Freedom and Democracy	Classic Liberalism	21,9%	35	33	+2
D66	Democrats '66	Social Liberalism	14,9%	23	19	+4
PVV	Party for Freedom	Anti-Immigration Populism	10,8%	17	20	-3
CDA	Christian Democratic Appeal	Christian Democracy	9,6%	15	19	-4
SP	Socialist Party	Socialism	6,0%	9	14	-5
PvdA	Labour Party	Social Democracy	5,7%	9	9	=
FvD	Forum for Democracy	Nationalism	5,0%	8	2	+6
GL	GreenLeft	Green	5,0%	8	14	-6
PvdD	Party for the Animals	Animal Rights/Green	3,8%	6	5	+1
CU	ChristianUnion	Social Conservatism	3,4%	5	5	=
JA21	The Right Answer '21	Conservative Liberalism	2,4%	3	0	+3
Volt	Volt Netherlands	Eurofederalism	2,4%	3	0	+3
SGP	Reformed Political Party	Christian Right	2,1%	3	3	=
DENK	THINK	Turkish/Moroccan Minority Interests	2,0%	3	3	=
BBB	FarmerCitizenMovement	Farmers' Interests	1,0%	1	0	+1
50+	50PLUS	Pensioners' Interests	1,0%	1	4	-3
BIJ1	Together	Anti-Capitalism/Minority Rights	0,8%	1	0	+1
CO	Code Orange	Direct Democracy	0,4%	0	0	=
S	Splinter	Social Liberalism	0,3%	0	0	=
NIDA	NIDA	Islamic Democracy	0,3%	0	0	=
PP	Pirate Party	Pirate Politics	0,2%	0	0	=
JONG	YOUNG	Youth Interests	0,1%	0	0	=
ToNL	Proud of the Netherlands	Conservatism	0,1%	0	0	=
LHK	List Henk Krol	Centrism	0,1%	0	0	=
NLB	NLBetter	Health Care Reform	0,1%	0	0	=
Blank	Blank list of candidates	Corona Scepticism	0,1%	0	0	=
OR	Sincerely	Conservative Nationalism	0,1%	0	0	=
LP	Libertarian Party	Libertarianism	0,1%	0	0	=
JL	Jesus Lives	Evangelicalism	0,0%	0	0	=
DFP	The Party Party	Apoliticism/Satire	0,0%	0	0	=
UBCF	U-Buntu Connected Front	Ubuntuism	0,0%	0	0	=
VSN	Free and Social Netherlands	Corona Scepticism/Populism	0,0%	0	0	=
PvdE	Party for Unity	Islamism	0,0%	0	0	=
WZNL	We Are the Netherlands	Fascism	0,0%	0	0	=
PvdR	Party for the Republic	Anti-Monarchism	0,0%	0	0	=
MNL	Modern Netherlands	e-Democracy	0,0%	0	0	=
DG	The Greens	Green	0,0%	0	0	=

Party	Ideology	Economic (right-left)	Society (prog-con)	Leader	Current seats	Lowest poll	Highest poll	Districs Competing
VVD	Classic Liberalism	right	centre	Mark Rutte	33	32 (Peil)	36 (Kantar)	All 20
PVV	Populism	centre-left	very conservative	Geert Wilders	20	18 (Kantar)	22 (Peil)	All 20
CDA	Christian Democracy	centre-right	conservative	Wopke Hoekstra	19	15 (Kantar)	17 (1V/Peil)	All 20
D66	Social Liberalism	centre-right	progressive	Sigrid Kaag	19	17 (Kantar)	19 (3 pollers)	All 20
GL	Green	centre-left	progressive	Jesse Klaver	14	8 (Peil)	11 (1V/I&O)	All 20
SP	Socialism	left-wing	lean conservative	Lilian Marijnissen	14	10 (I&O)	12 (Kantar)	All 20
PvdA	Social Democracy	centre-left	lean progressive	Lilianne Ploumen	9	10 (Peil)	12 (Kantar)	All 20
CU	Social Convervatism	centre-left	conservative	Gert-Jan Segers	5	6	6	All 20
PvdD	Animal rights	centre-left	very progressive	Esther Ouwehand	5	5 (I&O)	6 (3 pollers)	All 20
50+	Pensioners' Interests	centre-left	conservative	Liane den Haan	4	0 (1V/Peil)	1 (I&O/Kantar)	All 20
SGP	Christian Right	right	very conservative	Kees van der Staaij	3	3	3	All 20
DENK	Identity Politics	centre-left	centre	Farid Azarkan	3	2	2	All 20
FvD	Nationalism	right	conservative	Thierry Baudet	2	5 (3 pollers)	6 (Peil)	All 20
JA21	Conservative Liberalism	right	conservative	Joost Eerdmans	0	2 (3 pollers)	3 (Peil)	All 20
CO	Direct Democracy	centre	centre	Richard de Mos	0	0	0	All 20
BIJ1	Anti-Capitalism	far-left	very progressive	Sylvana Simons	0	0 (1V)	1 (3 pollers)	All 20
VOLT	Eurofederalism	centre-left	progressive	Laurens Dassen	0	2 (1V)	4 (I&O)	All 20
JONG	Youth interests	centre-left	progressive	Jaron Tichelaar	0	0	0	All except Caribbean
LHK	Centrism	centre	centre	Henk Krol	0	0	0	All except Caribbean
PP	Pirate Politics	centre-left	progressive	Matthijs Pontier	0	0	0	All 20
LP	Libertarianism	far-right	centre	Robert Valentine	0	0	0	All 20
BBB	Agrarianism	centre	conservative	Caroline van der Plas	0	1	1	All except Caribbean
NIDA	Islamic Democracy	centre-left	conservative	Nourdin El Ouali	0	0	0	All 20
NLB	Health Care Reform	centre	lean progressive	Esther van Fenema	0	0	0	All except Caribbean
S	Social liberalism	centre-right	progressive	Femke Merel van Kooten-Arissen	0	0 (3 pollers)	1 (Kantar)	All except Caribbean
OR	National conservatism	right	conservative	Michael Ruperti	0	0	0	All except Caribbean
JL	Evangelicalism	left	very conservative	Florens van der Spek	0	0	0	16 out of 20
ToNL	Conservative Liberalism	right	conservative	Sander van den Raadt	0	0	0	13 out of 20
UBCF	Ubuntuism	left	progressive	Regillio Vaarnold	0	0	0	13 out of 20
PvdE	Islamism	centre-right	very conservative	Arnoud van Doorn	0	0	0	8 out of 20
DFP	Apoliticism/Satire	no	no	Johan Vlemmix	0	0	0	8 out of 20
VSNL	Populism	centre-left	centre	Bas Filippini	0	0	0	6 out of 20
WZNL	Fascism	far-right	very conservative	Erwin Versteeg	0	0	0	6 out of 20
MNL	e-Democracy	centre	centre	Niels Heeze	0	0	0	4 out of 20
DG	Green	left	progressive	Otto ter Haar	0	0	0	2 out of 20
PvdR	Anti-Monarchism	centre-right	lean progressive	Bruno Braakhuis	0	0	0	2 out of 20
Blank	Independents	don't know	don't know	Anna Zeven	0	0	0	12 out of 20

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2021 Dutch Elections

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