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  • Gohan(U6 arc) vs frost(U6 arc)

    Who will win these rounda

    Round 1 base gohan vs first form frost

    Round 2 base gohan vs a hypothetical second form frost

    Round 3 ssj gohan vs second form frost

    Round 4 base gohan vs third form frost

    Round 5 ssj gohan vs third form frost

    Round 6 ssj gohan vs final form frost

    Round 7 ssj2 gohan vs final form frost

    Round 8 ssj gohan vs 100% final form frost

    Round 9 ssj2 gohan vs 100% final form frost

    Bonus gohan(future trunks arc) all same forms as above vs the same frost as above all forms, no poison for frost

    Which rounds does gohan win,which does he lose?

  • #2
    Frost obliterates Gohan in every round.

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    • #3
      Huh? Frost one shots every round

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      • #4
        Gohan was too busy being fodder to First Form Freeza by this point iirc.

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        • #5
          Gohan was training with Piccolo shortly before that tournament and pretty much fighting evenly with him in base. As ludicrous as it is, Frost is implied to be above Freeza by dominating base Goku in his third form whereas Freeza was losing in his true form in the movie and drawing in the anime. Piccolo can fight a weakened true form Frost. Third form to true form is a 60 times boost (at 100%), I doubt Frost is weakened to a point where he's weaker in his true form than he was in his third form, Vegeta still opted to use ssj after all. This actually puts Piccolo above post god base Goku and Gohan fought him fairly well whilst training.

          For some reason, such is the ridiculous scaling of Super, but sparring on Earth for a few weeks can make the "I couldn't get this strong on my own" ssjg tier reachable post looking at Beerus for a while. So yeah, Gohan competing with Piccolo means that with a 50 fold boost he'd wreck every version of Frost surely. Unless you think Frost was so weakened by taking a few hits from Goku, he was down to 0.1% of his power.

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          • #6
            As ludicrous as it is, Frost is implied to be above Freeza by dominating base Goku in his third form
            What is ludicrous about that?
            Piccolo can fight a weakened true form Frost.
            I guess one could say "fight", but Piccolo admits his inferiority and Goku says that he has no chance. The only reason he has any hope is because of Piccolo's Makankosoppo yields a ridiculous amp.
            Third form to true form is a 60 times boost (at 100%),
            Not really.

            1. How Third form compares to max power final form is not definitively 60x, we don't know for certain 3rd form is 2 million exactly.
            2. Frost also has the "buff" max power form, so it wouldn't be analogous to Freeza on Namek, given that he isn't "buff" in that scene.
            3. Frost and Freeza are not the exactly the same character, so it's an erroneous assumption to say that they have the same ratio difference in their powers. Frost's "third" form isn't even referred to as a 3rd form, he specifically refers to it as his "assault form", not really a 3rd form. It's perfectly reasonable to assume this is his 2nd form.
            Freeza had made these forms to suppress his power by a particular amount, but they exist as suppression forms, not as transformations to increase your power like SSJ. It would make absolutely no sense for Freeza to have exactly the same level of suppression as Frost. Frost apparently created the other forms because he had accidentally killed people during battle,(while he was posing as a good dude) obvously Freeza did it for other reasons.

            This actually puts Piccolo above post god base Goku and Gohan fought him fairly well whilst training.
            Didn't we just see them fighting in the intro sequence? Otherwise it was off-screen?
            "I couldn't get this strong on my own" ssjg tier reachable post looking at Beerus for a while.
            Are you saying his SSJ would be or his base?

            Unless you think Frost was so weakened by taking a few hits from Goku, he was down to 0.1% of his power.
            It's entirely possible, even likely.

            1. Jiren was weakened from UI Goku to the point Final Form Freeza and Base/SSJ Goku could beat him.
            2. Golden Freeza was weakened from exhaustion to the point of Base Vegeta deflecting a blast from him, and not doing much better than Base Goku against Jiren after also being exhausted.(And then immediately dropping into normal form)
            3. MSSJ Goku, after being exhausted, was depicted as the weakest one there, or at the very least, weaker than Piccolo, Vegeta and Trunks who he is at least double the strength of at the time.

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