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Are SSJ multipliers smaller for fusion?
Topic Started: Aug 18 2016, 10:01 PM (517 Views)
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I ask this because I find it very hard to believe that Gotenks got more than 50x stronger than he was before training in the Rosat. Besides, wouldn't that mean that Goten and Trunks got a 50x boost too? That would be ridiculous. I know that there isn't an official answer for this, but what do you guys think?

EDIT: I think this is supposed to be in the power level section, my bad. If it needs to be moved that's fine.
Edited by Goku9000, Aug 18 2016, 10:03 PM.
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Well I for one, don't buy the Gotenks(Post-RoSaT) > SS Gotenks(Pre-RoSaT) shtick in the first place.

However, if I did, it would make even less sense for the SS multipliers to randomly shrink while two people are fused,
given the information we have about fusion right now at least.

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I mean, it's possible, but nothing really suggests they're smaller.
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Nothing suggests it, but it's possible, like Prince said.^

However, it's more than likely Toriyama wasn't thinking about any kind of math when he wrote this stuff, so it would've made perfectly logical sense to him. It's only fans that dabble in numbers that have problems with strength increases.
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When you put it like that it does seem absurd. If Goten and Trunks are indeed close to MSSJ tier prior to the RoSaT then a 50x boost would see them skyrocket up into SSJ3 tier all on their own. I personally prefer to think that Base Gotenks prior to training was ahead of Majin Vegeta. It leaves enough of a margin where Base Gotenks can go from being somewhere close to the top of SSJ2 tier to comfortably ahead of Fat Buu (no one said that pre-RoSaT SSJ and post-RoSaT Base Gotenks had to be exactly the same level). The kids would surpass early Buu arc Teen Gohan, though I'm not sure about Goku and Vegeta.
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Well I for one don't think that he got more than 50x stronger as short as he was in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber.
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His Base pre-RoSaT should be SSJ2-tier. That would put his SSJ over 10x SSJ3 Goku and Fat Boo with a 50x multiplier, which seems a bit extreme.

Regardless, I do believe his post-RoSaT Base surpassed his previous SSJ, because that's pretty much what Piccolo tells us.
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I know it's "hard to believe" that's not always a good counter argument. Ssj is 50x base power and there's nothing that shows it's any different for fusions
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Yeah, Base Gotenks before the RoSaT was high SSJ2 tier so him being being an SSJ with the normal multiplier would mean that he's a crazy amount stronger than SSJ3 Goku which is sort of not true given Piccolo wasn't overly impressed by SSJ Gotenks. He basically confirms what Goku said meaning SSJ Gotenks can't be too much stronger than SSJ3 Goku.

Then you have Base Gotenks surpassing his pre-SSJ self after the RoSaT meaning there would be a crazy huge gap between the likes of SSJ3 Goku and SSJ3 Gotenks/Mystic Gohan.
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