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Chapter 15
Topic Started: Aug 18 2016, 02:33 PM (9,859 Views)
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Not much is known about this chapter right now, but I figured one of these images in particular is worth discussing.
https://twitter.com/Tragedy_of_L/status/766216998414057472
Apparently Goku can still use Super Saiyan 2 in the manga.
EDIT: More information
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/766252185789276161
Both the Kaioshin and Hakaishin are dead in Trunks's future.
https://twitter.com/Herms98/status/766252707770347520
Trunks is stronger than Gohan was back during the Cell Games. Man, perhaps the 2-base theory isn't dead? Stronger than Gohan would be quite an understatement. Granted, that's the strongest person Trunks knows of I suppose.
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Aug 18 2016, 02:38 PM.
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Goku used SSj2 and SSj3 in the anime too.
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Clearin
Aug 18 2016, 02:50 PM
Goku used SSj2 and SSj3 in the anime too.
I'm aware. Toyotaro's manga differs so frequently, some assumed Goku wouldn't use Super Saiyan 2.
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ThePrinceOfSaiyajins
Aug 18 2016, 02:55 PM
Clearin
Aug 18 2016, 02:50 PM
Goku used SSj2 and SSj3 in the anime too.
I'm aware. Toyotaro's manga differs so frequently, some assumed Goku wouldn't use Super Saiyan 2.
Nah, I figured they did it on purpose. I feel like they're kind of setting things up for a new god transformation and that's why.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0Bx8uav1bs
f***ing what!? Super Saiyan 2 Trunks is roughly as strong as Super Saiyan 3 Goku, and Goku ended up using Super Saiyan God on Trunks. Yeah, I'm done. This series makes no god damn sense.
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"Gods of destruction don't just destroy things for sadistic purposes like Black does"

Cue Beerus trying to destroy Earth because he didn't get any pudding.
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It looks like the manga version of Super is becoming more and more ridiculous and inconsistent. First it was Super Saiyan God. I thought Goku couldn't use it anymore. But nope. And now we have SSJ2 Future Trunks in the manga able to power up just like that and being on par with SSJ3 Goku( and the kicker here is that this is Goku(and Vegeta) post Training with Whis). I am sorry but this is probably the most asinine power up ever.
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Super Saiyan 2 Future Trunks is stronger than Super Saiyan 2 Goku now? Wow.
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Also, is it true regarding that if the kaioshin(s) die then Beerus/God of destruction would also die?
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Aug 19 2016, 11:52 PM
Also, is it true regarding that if the kaioshin(s) die then Beerus/God of destruction would also die?
Yes. Beerus has a huge weakness.
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Greato Daze!

Kinda makes it weird that Kibitoshin and Elder Kaioshin were absolutely terrified when Beerus showed up.
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It's almost like Toriyama is making s*** up as he goes along, and is retconning stuff in the process. Granted, he did this in the manga, yet somehow, the retcons were often explainable from an in-universe perspective.
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Aug 20 2016, 12:48 PM.
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Nagito Komaeda
Aug 20 2016, 12:37 PM
Kinda makes it weird that Kibitoshin and Elder Kaioshin were absolutely terrified when Beerus showed up.
They might have been scared for everyone else tbf.

I'm not sure how the link works though. Is it every Kaioshin has to die before Beerus also dies? Just the Kaioshin from a certain generation? Because I'm not sure if Elder Kaioshin would still be considered alive while still trapped in the Z sword.
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Well, the Elder Kaioshin is still trapped in the Z-Sword in Trunks's future, so his existence might be irrelevant, but then, since he's trapped in a sword, perhaps he's not taken into consideration? Perhaps if he were released Beerus would return? Who knows? I imagine that all the Kaioshin pertaining to Beerus's generation would have to be killed to kill off Beerus tho. This makes me wonder if Black is gonna kill Kibitoshin and Elder Kaioshin to really raise the stakes.
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Greato Daze!

Clearin
Aug 20 2016, 12:45 PM
Nagito Komaeda
Aug 20 2016, 12:37 PM
Kinda makes it weird that Kibitoshin and Elder Kaioshin were absolutely terrified when Beerus showed up.
They might have been scared for everyone else tbf.

I'm not sure how the link works though. Is it every Kaioshin has to die before Beerus also dies? Just the Kaioshin from a certain generation? Because I'm not sure if Elder Kaioshin would still be considered alive while still trapped in the Z sword.
That's possible, yeah.

If Elder Kaisohin has to die for Beerus to die, then Beerus is actually really smart (if he sealed him intentionally, of course). Who's gonna know that Elder Kaioshin is trapped inside the Z-Sword?

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