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Men, are you circumsized?
Topic Started: Aug 16 2016, 01:02 PM (2,679 Views)
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An odd topic to say the least but, I shall contribute.

I'm like halfway circumcised because the doctors apparently messed it up for me. I'm not covered in skin but, it's enough to make it like half way around.
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I'm not male, so I can't answer this question, but I'll just place in the fact that circumcision was useful when men lived in sandy areas and didn't have undergarments to protect themselves from the elements... like oh... the ancient Jewish population.
In modern day advanced society where we bathe regularly, have running water, and have protective undergarments, the benefits of circumcision are virtually insignificant compared to non-circumcision.

The only reason it's popular in the US now is because in the late 1800s, Dr. John Harvey Kellogg (who invented the corn flake, but that was the only real good non-crackpotty thing he did) said that circumcision curbed masturbation, which is complete nonsense as I assume most circumcized men can attest to it being nonsense (no one's judging, we're all adults here).
It became tradition in the US after that, and now the overwhelming majority of baby boys are circumcised simply because "daddy is circumcised".

There's some evidence to suggest that circumcision might help quell the spread of STDs, but most people already have certain STDs like genital herpes, and don't actually know it.
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I just realized I haven't posted on this topic yet. Well, it's definitely an interesting topic of course I would expect anything less from Pouf. But I am not circumsized and yes I am happy that I am not.
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I'm not circumcised and I really don't care or think about it, tbh.
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I don't think it's something most men think about. To be honest, I have heard multiple times from females that I've known that they prefer circumcision for the "look" of it. As far as health or functionality though, I don't think it holds any merit.
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I was circumcised as a baby, it was for religious reasons. And while I am a semi-religious jew so I am happy about it, I just think it doesn't matter in the grand scheme of things, how the heck does foreskin being there or not even matter to anyone? It's kinda a useless thing to think about unless it's causing medical problems for you.
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Aug 24 2016, 09:26 PM
I'm not male, so I can't answer this question, but I'll just place in the fact that circumcision was useful when men lived in sandy areas and didn't have undergarments to protect themselves from the elements... like oh... the ancient Jewish population.
In modern day advanced society where we bathe regularly, have running water, and have protective undergarments, the benefits of circumcision are virtually insignificant compared to non-circumcision.
But, wouldn't that make them more vulnerable to things like sand? They're lacking a protective layer, if anything. And it's not as if this was a common thing amongst the Canaan people, but a small cult of them that started doing it so as to distinguish themselves, and claim to be part of a special covenant with a particular god. Which they probably weren't even that particular about until clinging to their identity during their Babylonian exile.

As far as I can see, any touting of health benefits is a retroactive excuse for people to do it without a medical imperative. A way to condone their ritualistic identifier in an age of human rights.

People might say it has no effect on them because they don't remember the pain in any way, or they like the look of it, or it makes them feel cleaner—and they've no reason to be doubted—but what would you think of some religious practice or tradition of removing the fingers nails of babies for the same reasons? They won't get dirt under them; they won't remember the pain; they might even like the look of it.

Of course, the difference is one is commonplace in our societies so people won't have to be self-conscious about it, but you'd probably think it senseless and cruel were you to find it commonplace in a culture foreign to your own. There's no good reason for people to impose themselves on a baby to the point of permanently marking their body for the sake of an identity, or the parent's preferred aesthetic - if it alone were, then tattooing them should be fine, too.

Like tattoos, they can choose to have it done when they're an adult.
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I'm not male, so I can't answer this question, but I'll just place in the fact that circumcision was useful when men lived in sandy areas and didn't have undergarments to protect themselves from the elements... like oh... the ancient Jewish population.
In modern day advanced society where we bathe regularly, have running water, and have protective undergarments, the benefits of circumcision are virtually insignificant compared to non-circumcision.
But, wouldn't that make them more vulnerable to things like sand? They're lacking a protective layer, if anything.
Less folds of skin is less areas for sand to get stuck in, and given the fact that they didn't have any running water, clean water, or much water at all for hygiene, it makes sense why they'd want to eliminate it because it could become infected if sand got stuck in there. An infection from sand and poor hygiene back then could kill a man, or if a UTI lasted long enough, it could make him sterile.

Sterility back then was a problem. In modern day, it's like "whatever", but people in that time used their children as currency to form legal binds with other families and gain property.
With no children, a man couldn't create ties with other families by selling his daughter off to be married or having his son marry a daughter from a neighboring family.
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It has actually been proven that men who are not circumcised tend to have a much healthier sex life as foreskin is highly responsible for lubrication, protects erotic nerve endings from overexposure and desensitization and contains roughly 240 ft of pleasurable nerve fibers as well as 20.000 nerve endings.
I'm always on the fence with surgical procedures that happen almost directly from the womb without a significant medical reason, as in, when babies aren't able to talk or understand what is being done to them and before they can give consent to having hum... a chunk of their penis' skin removed? It kinda creeps me out when I think about it, it's such a bizarre concept tbh. Why do people do it? :errm:

I hear cleanliness as an argument for circumcision all the time, when foreskin really isn't naturally dirty at all, nor is it a great challenge to keep it clean underneath. I've seen my boyfriend do it in the shower all the time, all it takes is pulling the skin back and rinsing it with water. That's literally it. And then there's aesthetics as possibly THE biggest reason for circumcision and boy, do I have a problem with dictating how your baby's body is going to look like all his life permanently just based on aesthetics, that's for him to decide when he's old enough to make that kind of decision, not you.

I'm not trying to make any of my circumcised friends here feel remotely bad for it, I just really believe it is a nonsensical and semi creepy tradition that should really never be imposed upon babies as it's essentially a form of body violation.

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Aug 25 2016, 12:22 AM
And then there's aesthetics as possibly THE biggest reason for circumcision and boy, do I have a problem with dictating how your baby's body is going to look like all his life permanently just based on aesthetics, that's for him to decide when he's old enough to make that kind of decision, not you.
WAIT WAIT WAIT that's a thing? That's absolutely disgusting! I mean, doing it for religious reasons is bad already but this... Is awful. I've also heard that circumcision makes sex less pleasurable for men due to their thing always being exposed or something? I'm not too sure about that though it would make sense to me as to why that would happen.

Personally, I prefer a foreskin. Circumcised penises look... Strange to me. Just sharing my opinion guys, please don't get offended!!
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I don't feel bad about it, but, boy, do I wish I had my foreskin now. Kris successfully has made me feel significantly less happy about the state of my genitalia. :( Too much science!
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i agree with the whole body mutilation thing but for myself i don't really give a s***. i piss out of it and shove it inside people (admittedly not as often as i'd like but o well........) and that's really it.
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uhhhh why is this thread still open but the one about women got locked? http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/10000470/ i'm calling double standards......
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