Realistic Proportions for Disney Princesses

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Realistic Proportions for Disney Princesses
Tweet Topic Started: Aug 15 2016, 11:43 AM (3,217 Views)
+ Steve	Aug 20 2016, 01:55 AM Post #31
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Aaaaaanyway yeah I agree with myself, strangely enough, all we need from Disney princesses at this point is more racial diversity and some disability. Kids shouldn't be fat, no need to glorify obesity. Also interesting how it's never mentioned that basically every Disney prince or at least the princess' lover is buff and ruggedly handsome. Like the only one that comes to mind who isn't is Alladin(in terms of being buff) The unrealistic standards go both ways, the men always have like 100 inch chests. I get that body image is more of a focus for women but it's never really seen as a problem that to get the girl you need to look like Hercules.
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Jet	Aug 20 2016, 02:23 AM Post #32
Ruka is a dude Posts: 443 Group: Member Member #9,382 Joined: April 16, 2013 Gender Male Country New Zealand Favourite Anime LOGH, Berserk, Monster, Steins;Gate, Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, GITS, Studio Ghibli's stuff. What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer (message sent from 2005) Favourite Manga Berserk, Dragon Ball, Vagabond	Steve Aug 20 2016, 01:55 AM Aaaaaanyway yeah I agree with myself, strangely enough, all we need from Disney princesses at this point is more racial diversity and some disability. Kids shouldn't be fat, no need to glorify obesity. Also interesting how it's never mentioned that basically every Disney prince or at least the princess' lover is buff and ruggedly handsome. Like the only one that comes to mind who isn't is Alladin(in terms of being buff) The unrealistic standards go both ways, the men always have like 100 inch chests. I get that body image is more of a focus for women but it's never really seen as a problem that to get the girl you need to look like Hercules. It's the same thing but for whatever reason that's written down more as a self insert/male fantasy sort of thing. Bit of a double standard, although admittedly I've never had body issues arise from looking at cartoons. There's enough glorification of the extremely good looking in real life going on for cartoons to be a major problem.



Tinny	Aug 20 2016, 02:43 AM Post #33
Posts: 6,060 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Generally when I see men played up as sexy for the woman, they don't look like Arnold Schwarzenegger, they generally look like this. or this (Possibly barring Haruhi) Both are reverse harem shows with a shojo demographic. The huge rippling muscles aren't for women, they're for men in my experience. Power fantasy and so on. Not that the muscly guys can't be used for fanservice, but generally for those types of portrayals again, in my experience are like the pictures I just posted. And even then you'd have to blind not to see that there's a difference in men's body types and women's body types in fiction, there's not an even cut. And while both the princesses and the princes seem fairly homogenized, there's undoubtedly more unconventionally attractive or even unattractive body types among men than among women, you'd have to be blind not to see it. I mean how many characters have weight like Treasure Planet's Long John Silver with roles to match? I got Ursula. ...And that's about all that comes to mind off the top of my head. ...Big Mama? Technically it's a man dressing up as a woman and from what I've seen and remembered it's none too flattering but whatever I'm already running empty on examples. Oh yeah Steven's Universe has a bunch of unconventional body types in women (or woman like figures) right? Granted I haven't seen it and it seems to be dismissed as an "SJW show" anyway so that probably doesn't help the argument that says that the differing body types afforded to genders are a bunch of malarkey. as for letting fat people into the disney princess line... I'm not sure, it doesn't necessarily bother me too much since the Disney princes are kind of homogeneous as well, but ultimately their body types are but a symptom of a lack of variety in female body types compared to men. Edited by Tinny, Aug 20 2016, 03:16 AM.
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lazerbem	Aug 20 2016, 02:25 PM Post #34
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	@Tinny Judging by the amount of fangirls Vegeta has, I don't think that it would be wrong to assume that there is a decent number of women who like the bulky look. On the other hand, I see more fangirls of people like Sasuke and Marik, who are basically waifs, so you're probably onto something there. In regards to fat women, only other ones I can think of would be Grandmother Willow from Pocahontas Even if it's just a face, she looks considerably different.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Aug 20 2016, 07:38 PM Post #35
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Didn't read most of thread but imo, fictional characters don't need to look completely realistic. It's not the artists fault that kids can't distinguish between fiction and reality. I'd blame that more on the parent. We need to shun the f* out of obesity(as a whole, not individuals of course). If youre happy in your fat...fine. Be in denial. Ruin your life. But I'd rather see healthy looking people in cartoons for kids to look at and look up to and try and be like than someone who is fat or boring looking Even if the proportions are off, it's the parents' job to raise them so that they realize the difference between what is fictional and actually attainable I want to be ripped like goku. That doesn't mean I should literally look like goku. That's ridiculous If the proportions on all characters were realistic their wouldn't be any unique art styles too Edited by Ssj3vegito96**, Aug 20 2016, 07:39 PM.
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Sam	Aug 20 2016, 11:18 PM Post #36
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	Should we go on a pandering P.C. crusade and let them be overweight and have a girlfriend? No, we don't have to. But can their bodies be healthy but still considered thin for the most part? Yes. Magic carpets may not be real but how girls subconsciously view these characters is very much so.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 01:31 PM Post #37
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Just to play devil's advocate a little: Quote: Didn't read most of thread but imo, fictional characters don't need to look completely realistic. It's not the artists fault that kids can't distinguish between fiction and reality. I'd blame that more on the parent. So it's my parents' fault that I have anxiety and low self-confidence? They must have raised me wrong? You don't think it could have anything to do with the fact that mental illnesses are mostly caused by genetics?



Buuberries	Aug 22 2016, 04:19 PM Post #38
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	research is still split on the etiology of mental disorders. some are more genetic and others are more environmental, but the majority of research basically suggests both. particularly when it comes to mood disorders such as anxiety and depression and whatever, environmental factors are big. there are differences, though -- e.g., endogenous depression vs reactive depression. Edited by Buuberries, Aug 22 2016, 04:24 PM.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 04:31 PM Post #39
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I can see how environmental causes could cause depression, anxiety, OCD, etc. but it seems to usually be genetic. Your environment has to be really bad to cause trauma to that degree. Usually PTSD is environmental tho.



Mihawk	Aug 22 2016, 04:34 PM Post #40
Posts: 4,804 Group: Prodigy Member #4,783 Joined: March 2, 2010 Gender Not Specified	I'm pretty sure genetic disorders for anxiety and depression are the exception and not the rule



Wagwan	Aug 22 2016, 04:37 PM Post #41
Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #12,260 Joined: April 22, 2015	yeah but research suggests both when it it comes to angst, depression w/e f*ing new mouse's customized buttons fing my s up soz Edited by Wagwan**, Aug 22 2016, 04:38 PM.



+ Clearin	Aug 22 2016, 04:40 PM Post #42
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	OFG Aug 22 2016, 01:31 PM Just to play devil's advocate a little: Quote: Didn't read most of thread but imo, fictional characters don't need to look completely realistic. It's not the artists fault that kids can't distinguish between fiction and reality. I'd blame that more on the parent. So it's my parents' fault that I have anxiety and low self-confidence? They must have raised me wrong? You don't think it could have anything to do with the fact that mental illnesses are mostly caused by genetics? The main difference is that no one blames mental conditions like depression and anxiety on cartoons, and especially no one says that fiction should be altered specifically to not upset their mental conditions.



Buuberries	Aug 22 2016, 05:00 PM Post #43
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	OFG Aug 22 2016, 04:31 PM I can see how environmental causes could cause depression, anxiety, OCD, etc. but it seems to usually be genetic. Your environment has to be really bad to cause trauma to that degree. Usually PTSD is environmental tho. no it doesn't. something as seemingly innocuous such as having less nurturing parents, yet still nowhere near the point of neglect, could make a kid more shy and anxious and if they're already predisposed to depression then it could trigger or fuel that. the majority of people i've known in person or have read about in case studies who have depression didn't go through something extremely traumatic. Edited by Buuberries, Aug 22 2016, 05:08 PM.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 22 2016, 05:32 PM Post #44
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Edgar Allan Bro Aug 22 2016, 04:34 PM I'm pretty sure genetic disorders for anxiety and depression are the exception and not the rule Not true. I've done my research on this, too. While buubs is right in that both can be factors, genetics definitely plays a huge role. I could keep arguing this, but it's getting off-topic.



Wagwan	Aug 22 2016, 05:43 PM Post #45
Posts: 190 Group: Member Member #12,260 Joined: April 22, 2015	Clearin Aug 22 2016, 04:40 PM The main difference is that no one blames mental conditions like depression and anxiety on cartoons, and especially no one says that fiction should be altered specifically to not upset their mental conditions. man thats not true you've never heard someone say "I watched such and such as a kid, and now I'm all fked up [afraid of clowns, the dark, jesus]"? like hello ever watch pic related Rated Y-7 (for seven y/o's) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTymvjRuoc Edited by Wagwan, Aug 22 2016, 05:45 PM.



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