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Do you think King Cold is in his Final Form?
Topic Started: Aug 14 2016, 07:03 AM (3,385 Views)
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I'm just saying, he's no weakling.
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He isn't. He's just not on Freeza's level.
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Never said he was, only that he wasn't too far away from Freeza.
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I don't disagree with that then.
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It's plausible Cold can be using his suppression forms and yet his full power still remains weaker than Freeza's.
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Aug 15 2016, 02:55 AM
It's plausible Cold can be using his suppression forms and yet his full power still remains weaker than Freeza's.
Not really the state we see him in now is already in the same ball park as frieza. If he were to transform and still be weaker than Frieza than that would mean his jumps in power would be baby steps.
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Aug 15 2016, 02:55 AM
It's plausible Cold can be using his suppression forms and yet his full power still remains weaker than Freeza's.
Not really the state we see him in now is already in the same ball park as frieza. If he were to transform and still be weaker than Frieza than that would mean his jumps in power would be baby steps.
Either that or everything is lying to us.

Or he can't transform.
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Aug 15 2016, 02:55 AM
It's plausible Cold can be using his suppression forms and yet his full power still remains weaker than Freeza's.
I find that hard to believe considering that, even if Freeza's a mutant, if Cold has the same supression forms shouldn't he get stronger the same amount Freeza did? Because then I don't see how he'd still be weaker. He could probably already surpass or rival Freeza with his hypothetical 3rd form.
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How does Cold match up to Mecha Freeza again?
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Aug 15 2016, 04:11 AM
How does Cold match up to Mecha Freeza again?
What's with that question?
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How does Cold match up to Mecha Freeza again?
What's with that question?
What do you mean?

I asked how Cold's power compares to Mecha Freeza. I forgot so I need to remember because it was stated somewhere in the Manga.
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The only comparison was to suppressed Freeza.
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Aug 15 2016, 04:50 AM
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Aug 15 2016, 04:27 AM
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How does Cold match up to Mecha Freeza again?
What's with that question?
What do you mean?

I asked how Cold's power compares to Mecha Freeza. I forgot so I need to remember because it was stated somewhere in the Manga.
Ah ok.

I thought you were asking that to me after saying I said he wasn't too far behind Freeza.
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Cold was only comparable to a true-form Freeza who was considerably suppressed, as Gohan told us. Plus, Freeza's race's forms seem to be crafted based on the individual's needs, and aren't necessarily the same across the board with predictable power boosts like the Super Saiyan transformations. Cold in a suppressive form could very well be a little stronger than initial true-form Freeza but still max out as weaker than him.
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Aug 14 2016, 06:28 PM
2 more forms that would make him weaker than Freeza still.
Agreed. All they said was Cold was a "huge chi". Also, Goku in Mirai Trunks' timeline is the one who kills Freeza and Cold. If Cold is in his second form, we can assume he would transform to fight Goku since Goku wouldn't end them so quickly like Trunks did. He likes to savor the fight, as you know.

Seriously, consider the very short timeline of events.

- Trunks shows up with a power level of 5. Nobody knows who he is.
- He kills all of Freeza's goons, to the amusement of Cold and Freeza.
- He transforms to Super Saiyan. Freeza panics and Cold is just basically like "oh, so that's a Super Saiyan then?"
- Freeza throws a huge death ball at Trunks. Cold and Freeza thinks he's dead. He's not, he's not even phased. Freeza explodes it. They think he's dead.
- Trunks yells at them and shoots a huge energy attack. They quickly dodge it and fly in the air.
- Trunks leaps down and quickly chops Mecha Freeza up and disintegrates him.
- Cold and Trunks land face-to-face.

Cold has no time to transform here, and seeing what happened to his son, he believes that Freeza was caught off guard and in his own words, that it was Trunks' sword that killed Freeza. Not Trunks' own power as a Super Saiyan. He underestimated him because he had never seen a Super Saiyan before. Freeza was stuck in his final transformed state because of his mechanical enhancements, Cold has no reason to be in it. By the time Cold probably realized he should have transformed to his final form and full power (even though he'd still be weaker than Freeza), he is getting backed up by Trunks and then has a hole shot through him.

It takes some time for Freeza to transform to his third state and much more time to transform to his final form. Cold had literally no opportunity of doing this after Trunks engaged them in battle.
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