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Did the first Future Trunks train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber?
Topic Started: Aug 13 2016, 01:12 AM (406 Views)
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Okay this is something I've been thinking about for a while now and it's a question about the first Future Trunks. By that I mean the one that was killed by Imperfect Cell. What do you guys think happened, did Future Trunks train in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber or what? Because he had to of gotten stronger to be able to defeat the Androids in his timeline. But in the Z timeline Piccolo could have taken out the Androids instead. So there wouldn't have been a need for them to train in there because there was nothing left to fight. Of course he definitely needed some kind of training to defeat his Androids. But what did he do to gain his strength? It's just weird because Cell was able to kill Future Trunks, did Cell get the jump on Trunks? What's the whole deal with all of this?
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If I'm not mistaken it was mentioned that they defeated the cyborgs by using the shut off device. Now whether that applied to #16 or not is unknown. Logically he should have been made a part of that universe as well since it appeared to have panned out mostly the same throughout the Android arc until the point where they discover the blueprints for Gero's remote. If they were able to deactivate the cyborgs before the RoSaT was suggested then there may not have been a need for it, though I can't imagine Vegeta, Goku, or any of the others passing up the opportunity to get strong enough to contend with such a threat in the future should it ever arise again.

On a timeline chart that was released it shows that the Cell Games still happened in that timeline. I can't imagine it all having panned out the same, but with the possible threat of #16 and Imperfect Cell gobbling up as much of the population as he can, there likely would have been a need to use the RoSaT anyway. For whatever reason, though, that Future Trunks was still killed by Cell in his own timeline - meaning that he either didn't train in the RoSaT or the Imperfect Cell which we all know was originally much stronger before he regressed to his larval state. If I had to guess on what the outcome was, I would say that Trunks didn't train. Why else would he need the shut off remote if destroying them was as simple as we saw in the other future timeline?
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Aug 13 2016, 01:34 AM
If I'm not mistaken it was mentioned that they defeated the cyborgs by using the shut off device. Now whether that applied to #16 or not is unknown. Logically he should have been made a part of that universe as well since it appeared to have panned out mostly the same throughout the Android arc until the point where they discover the blueprints for Gero's remote. If they were able to deactivate the cyborgs before the RoSaT was suggested then there may not have been a need for it, though I can't imagine Vegeta, Goku, or any of the others passing up the opportunity to get strong enough to contend with such a threat in the future should it ever arise again.

On a timeline chart that was released it shows that the Cell Games still happened in that timeline. I can't imagine it all having panned out the same, but with the possible threat of #16 and Imperfect Cell gobbling up as much of the population as he can, there likely would have been a need to use the RoSaT anyway. For whatever reason, though, that Future Trunks was still killed by Cell in his own timeline - meaning that he either didn't train in the RoSaT or the Imperfect Cell which we all know was originally much stronger before he regressed to his larval state. If I had to guess on what the outcome was, I would say that Trunks didn't train. Why else would he need the shut off remote if destroying them was as simple as we saw in the other future timeline?
That all makes a lot more sense now.

Why would the Cell Games still happen in that timeline, Cell wouldn't be there.
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There should be another iteration of future Cell in that timeline which we didn't see (lending credence to the idea of 5th unseen timeline). The only other other possible way that Cell could exist in that timeline is if the indigenous Cell beneath Gero's lab survived incubation and emerged into the world. After that it becomes a matter of him absorbing enough people to overcome the Super Saiyans. If he gets the same mentality of testing his mettle then the Cell Games would be formulated as a means of enjoyment for him.
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Aug 13 2016, 01:58 AM
There should be another iteration of future Cell in that timeline which we didn't see (lending credence to the idea of 5th unseen timeline). The only other other possible way that Cell could exist in that timeline is if the indigenous Cell beneath Gero's lab survived incubation and emerged into the world. After that it becomes a matter of him absorbing enough people to overcome the Super Saiyans. If he gets the same mentality of testing his mettle then the Cell Games would be formulated as a means of enjoyment for him.
Is there a statement somewhere that says there was another Future Cell in that timeline? I just really don't see how it's possible.
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Not from what I recall. That's the just conclusion I reach in light of the fact that Trunks and Krillin would have encountered the incubation machine for Cell when they discovered the blueprints. It's highly likely he would have been killed while still in larval state. This leaves only the Cell whom Piccolo first came across as being the one who could have created the Cell Games in that timeline.
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Aug 13 2016, 02:33 AM
Not from what I recall. That's the just conclusion I reach in light of the fact that Trunks and Krillin would have encountered the incubation machine for Cell when they discovered the blueprints. It's highly likely he would have been killed while still in larval state. This leaves only the Cell whom Piccolo first came across as being the one who could have created the Cell Games in that timeline.
But that's the third timeline. The second timeline is the one that never had a Cell. I don't think we're on the same page.
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Are we talking about the fourth unseen timeline? That's the one which I assume was being referred to.
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Aug 13 2016, 02:39 AM
Are we talking about the fourth unseen timeline? That's the one which I assume was being referred to.
I'm not aware of a fourth one. Okay I'll just say what I'm talking about this way:

1st Timeline: Future Trunks's timeline where everyone was killed by the androids.
2nd Timeline: This is the one I'm talking about. This is the one where they are able to kill the Androids. Future Cell never came back to this timeline. When he went back in time he went to the 3rd timeline.
3rd Timeline: The Z Timeline where Future Cell shows up.

Ik I got timelines messed up a bit there but that 2nd one is the one I'm talking about.
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The fourth one is where the Trunks from the timeline that our Cell was originally from traveled back to. You've effectively got four timelines with the possibility of a fifth one being implied to exist since the Cell Games evidently took place in the same timeline where the cyborgs were deactivated. Here's the chart I mentioned earlier.

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Aug 13 2016, 02:52 AM
The fourth one is where the Trunks from the timeline that our Cell was originally from traveled back to. You've effectively got four timelines with the possibility of a fifth one being implied to exist since the Cell Games evidently took place in the same timeline where the cyborgs were deactivated. Here's the chart I mentioned earlier.

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Yeah, now I'm all good. Man all this time travel stuff is really just a big head ache. Thanks for showing me that. Lol I think I might actually own that information even, is that from one of the Dragon Books?
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I think so. I found the image on the wikia and there appears to be a citation from the Daizenshuu so yes. The manga already established that four timelines existed when Cell explained to Piccolo how the Trunks from his own timeline returned to the past and obtained the blueprints for the deactivation remote, thus creating a fourth divergence which we never see.
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