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Popular characters you can't stand; Villains and good guys
Topic Started: Aug 8 2016, 04:44 AM (2,544 Views)
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Aug 9 2016, 02:09 PM
DBS goku

he is immature, childish, and his character went back to the character he had prior the 21 budokai.

I mean compare him to his Cell arc self.

On the other hand he has the tactical ability he had back in the day, and he can be rough if it need be but overall I dont like his current character
To be fair, he was still an idiot during the Cell games.
Not to the same extent as DBS though, clearly. :D
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Gohan.

The only time I didn't mind him was during the Cell Arc. He can suck it at every other time in the series.

And Broly, of course. But Broly is one of those characters where you either love or hate him.
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The only one I can think of is Gohan. He sucked ultra hard in the Saiyan Arc and the Frieza Arc. He was cool in his fight against Cell, but that was about it for the Cell Arc. Then I felt like he was a better character in the Buu Arc but he was still a wimp, until he attained his Ultimate form. Then he sucked again in Dragon Ball Super, but he was at least true to his character.
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Aug 8 2016, 04:44 AM

Villain: Broly
Yeah. You read that correctly. I cannot stand this guy. I really don't get the appeal. In my opinion, he's very one dimensional, his design is lazy, and his motives are contrived. After a certain point, the only thing he ever said as "Kakarrot!". It's like they took all the traits I hate about Vegeta, multiplied them tenfold, and injected them into what looks like a giant Super Trunks with no pupils. (Accidental rant alert) I don't get the idea that, in the first movie, at least, he was stronger than Cell. If he were, he would have won. Goku hadn't even finished training for the Cell Games yet, and even when he did, he wasn't nearly strong enough to beat Cell. Gohan was still unaware of his dormant abilities, and everyone else was weakened so much from the fight that they couldn't possibly have given enough energy to Goku, who was also on his last leg, for him to be able to beat someone who was stronger than Cell.

I agree with your post about Broly. Though overall I like him and his sociopathic behavior, him screaming "Kakarot" got old pretty fast. Also, the few times he did drop some one-liners, they were very lame.
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Aug 10 2016, 07:57 PM
Gohan.

The only time I didn't mind him was during the Cell Arc. He can suck it at every other time in the series.

And Broly, of course. But Broly is one of those characters where you either love or hate him.
Well, I'm kinda indifferent to Broli honestly. I love his design, and the concept of the Legendary Super Saiyan, but I generally find him uninteresting. He was kinda cool in Movie 8, but after that he became totally uninteresting.
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I think I love this forum. I've found my people. Most people I've talked to in the real world, and even online on other sites, seem to think Broly is one of the greatest characters of all time. Don't get me wrong. If you like him, fine, but you can like a character and still acknowledge their flaws. My favorite character is Gohan, and I don't think many other people like him, and I can see why they don't. He spends the first part of the series as a kid who is afraid all the time. I know that's not a good thing, but I still like him. Now, maybe that's a bit of nostalgia talking, but I identified with him as a kid. I was super shy, hardly ever talked to anyone I hadn't known for a long time, and just generally didn't want to do anything that could be considered dangerous, and, in Gohan, I found a kindred spirit. Do I think he's perfect? No. Not at all. And I understand why people generally don't like him, but, my feelings aren't going to be hurt if someone insults him. Yeah, I'll defend him if I feel like they don't understand what they are complaining about, but even then, I'm not gonna get mad. A lot of the Broly fans seem to think you're Satan if you don't like him.
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zionhyome
Aug 10 2016, 11:10 PM
I think I love this forum. I've found my people. Most people I've talked to in the real world, and even online on other sites, seem to think Broly is one of the greatest characters of all time. Don't get me wrong. If you like him, fine, but you can like a character and still acknowledge their flaws. My favorite character is Gohan, and I don't think many other people like him, and I can see why they don't. He spends the first part of the series as a kid who is afraid all the time. I know that's not a good thing, but I still like him. Now, maybe that's a bit of nostalgia talking, but I identified with him as a kid. I was super shy, hardly ever talked to anyone I hadn't known for a long time, and just generally didn't want to do anything that could be considered dangerous, and, in Gohan, I found a kindred spirit. Do I think he's perfect? No. Not at all. And I understand why people generally don't like him, but, my feelings aren't going to be hurt if someone insults him. Yeah, I'll defend him if I feel like they don't understand what they are complaining about, but even then, I'm not gonna get mad. A lot of the Broly fans seem to think you're Satan if you don't like him.
I feel you bro haha. All my RL friends who just watched casually are die hard Broly fans and think he is the strongest of all just because of his "legendary" saiyan transformation. It's like talking to a wall when you explain them that he is even weaker than Majin Buu.
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The way I see it the Majin Vegeta arc is essentially a relapse along his path...which happens with messed up people but Vegeta isn't messed up on any terms we can understand, he's not relapsing on drugs or stealing or even mass murder he's relapsing on being one man who has caused the extinction or billions and billions of species and destroyed entire worlds. He also lives in a world with magic Dragon Balls which he knows will be used to revive anyone he kills during his goading to get Goku to take him seriously. Vegeta overestimated the saiyans and underestimated Boo just as Goku did, had Boo turned out to be paltry like they thought, then everything Vegeta had done would have been easily fixed before the day was out and he'd have had a no holds barred fight he thought would never have been possible again after the Cell arc. Vegeta's violence and experiences with Freeza and his most powerful forces as well as his own family being the most powerful saiyans who rule over the others are levels of evil and aggression that are hard to comprehend, he has since childhood, been shown time and time again that power is everything and he was a changed man and he was still changing but considering the levels of evil he has experienced in his life, it's not hard to believe that this road t redemption would have some MAJOR speed bumps along the way. And after all of his grand self-induent actions becoming Majin and then sacrificing himself, he learns that Goku was pitying him. Vegeta hates that but he did fuse with Goku, him refusing to straight away was to build tension more than anything. It's a story, we all wanted to see some less than peaceful interaction between the two saiayans before the inevitable fuision to make it tense and more grand, rather than Vegeta just going "yeah sure thing, I'll hop right on the fusion train buddy".
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But that doesn't excuse his methods of going about it. Allowing Babadi to turn him into a Majin, even if he knew he could fight his control, in order to gain the power he believed would allow him to beat Goku goes against everything we know about the Saiyan race. When Goku was fighting Cell, and the others suggested they all attack at once, Vegeta makes them stop, saying that Goku's pride, as a Saiyan, even though he was raised on Earth, meant that he would rather lose than to accept outside help. One can only imagine that Vegeta, having not only been raised on the Saiyan Planet, but also having been as high in rank as he had been in the army, would have even more of that same pride, and up until the point he allowed Babadi to turn him, he did. It would have been one thing if they played it like he had finally broken and lost his pride, but they didn't. Not long after that, he starts talking about how his pride continues to motivate him to fight. How can he still have any pride left when he gave in to the very thing he said Goku would never give in to because of the small amount of pride that he had?
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I know it doesn't excuse them but I think they're understandable. Goku's one day return and the prospect of proving himself did a number on Vegeta, he messed up big time and him sacrificing himself was more significant to me because he knew he'd rot in hell, plus he probably thought after everything he'd done, there was no way he'd be revived. Vegeta gave in to his desire and relapsed because of the prospect of fighting Goku, Bobidi was an escape from his new life and a surrender to the old one. Plenty of people in real life will be self destructive from time to time. Vegeta's life and self destruction is just infinitely more grand than most. I think he made up for it when he decided to literally go to hell forever to prevent the destruction of his home and his loved ones, which includes Goku, as he said, so it's more complicated than outright hating an uppity low class saiyan.
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I get what you are saying, and I'll admit, the way I've been wording things kind of sounds like I don't understand it, but I do understand. I know WHY he did it, I just don't like THAT he did it (capitalization for emphasis, not anger). Yeah, he has his reasons, but even then, I feel like that was a big problem. I think if, as he said after Gohan defeated Cell, he had stopped training, and gave up fighting, and when he heard Goku was coming back, that was the reason he allowed it, because it was the only chance he had, it would be better. Heck, I'd even take a plot of, after the death of Goku, and the defeat of Cell, Vegeta left Earth. And was found and changed by Babadi, and suggested he go to Earth, because there were strong warriors there, and he could get the needed energy quickly. Then, Babadi hides him from everyone, while referencing a "secret weapon". Then, the shock of seeing Goku in person awakened his dormant feelings, and he regained control, while still keeping the increased abilities. At least, that way, if nothing else, it's a bigger shock.
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Goku and Vegeta, definitely. I hate how they're the only relevant Z Fighters now. Give Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo time to shine again.
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Popular characters I hate in a general sense? Goku tops that list, at least post-Cell Games. He's such a bastard. Majin Boo in all of the post-2008 material is also a whiny little snot (case in point: not sharing his f***ing pudding with Beerus despite being able to materialize more food on a whim) and I always want someone to just blow him up.

Popular characters I hate to discuss? Gogeta would be numero uno for sure. I don't get why his one awesome appearance in Movie 12 justifies such a Brolyesque worshiping of him. I f***ing love that scene, but I can't give him any credit manga-wise; they're two separate characters in my book. Goku would also be high on the list, especially post-2008 material. The fanboys and the horrid, inconsistent writing for BOG/ROF and DBS has spawned a demon.
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Oh another one, which will be more controversial to some users: Cell.

He's nothing special. He is just a copy of a lot of cool guys, but that doesn't make him cool. No own techniques. Kamehame-ha from Goku, Death Beam from Freeza, Special Beam Canon from Piccolo. Wouldn't mind if the whole Cell-Arc would be replaced with Janemba or someone else.

Fight me.
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Aug 14 2016, 12:32 AM
Give Gohan, Goten, Trunks and Piccolo time to shine again.
And Tien.
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Cell: Sacrifice? Hmph, rubbish! On the contrary, it is an honor to become a fraction of my power.
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