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Your Religious Views?
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* Ketchup Revenge	Aug 7 2016, 11:57 PM Post #46
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	Shining Light So now what makes you guys believe what you do? Me, it's because my good friend/mentor showed me a lot about the Bible and how it works. I can't accept anything as truth without evidence for it. That's why I do (or don't) believe what I do. ObsessiveFanGirl I'm not sure that's how scientific theories actually work. That's more of a layman's way of putting it. A scientific theory isn't just an idea. It's an established scientific "fact", because there is enough direct evidence to support it. For example, the Theory of Gravity is a scientific fact. We can all observe gravity. The Theory of Evolution can be explained by genetic mutation over time, in addition to animals possessing parts that no longer serve a purpose (The appendix in humans for example). Even whales have leg bones. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 8 2016, 12:03 AM.
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Dankness Lava	Aug 8 2016, 12:02 AM Post #47
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Nagito Komaeda Aug 7 2016, 11:56 PM Shining Light Aug 7 2016, 11:52 PM GinyuTokusentai Aug 7 2016, 11:03 PM Shining Light Aug 7 2016, 08:35 PM @Pelador but if He creates something He can't destroy, how does that make Him all powerful? That wouldn't make sense. I think I just debunked that timeless "paradox" lol No you didn't, that's the entire point of the paradox. Can God create an object that he can't destroy? If he can, then there is something God can't destroy, therefore his power has a limit and God is not omnipotent. If he can't then there is something God can't create, therefore his power has a limit and God is not omnipotent. The paradox shows omnipotent beings don't exist. If God exist, he's not all-powerfull Yeah I guess I didn't think that through well enough. It does stump me. So is that used as a means of proving the Bible as false? It's used as a means of showing that any kind of God wouldn't conform to our idea of what's logical. However, that's countered with the claim that they're far beyond that. As for that, we're unable to adequately comprehend God, but depending on what religion you're looking at, we have a pretty good idea about the abilities and qualities they possess. Indeed, he does have qualities that are mysterious to us. Probably because we don't really need that sort of information.



DrewHak	Aug 8 2016, 12:10 AM Post #48
The Jew Posts: 166 Group: Admiral Member #9,701 Joined: July 3, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga Naruto	ObsessiveFanGirl Aug 7 2016, 11:04 PM Quote: the idea was that it's not 100% visual proof of everything explained in them being provided. And religion has 100% visual proof of everything to back it up? Many religious people confuse me. Not referring to you specifically, but a lot of the people I know personally or have interacted with in the past. They hate on science, claiming that things like evolution aren't 100% proven, yet they hold to beliefs that literally have no evidence behind them. It's perfectly fine to believe what you want to believe, but at least don't be a hypocrite about it. I wish more religious people were open-minded and willing to believe something that 99% of the world's scientists adamantly support. Not necessarily that, but it's the easier path to explaining things, i'm not saying that the religious way is the correct way, that it explains stuff correctly, i'm just saying that is how it is used, to explain things, similarly to science, but religion isn't based off of facts or adding new ideas, facts and theories as science does. It's simply an explanation for everything. And that's why people are religious. Because it just provides something that science might have not provided yet. Science would probably provide something better than what religion does, we as humanity simply haven't got to explaining that by ourselves, and might never get there.
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~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 8 2016, 12:13 AM Post #49
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I don't think we'll ever get to the point of saying with absolute certainty that a deity doesn't exist; however, I do believe that science will reach the point where religion no longer makes any sense whatsoever/holds no place in society anymore. For example, evolution becoming a law rather than a theory (which is unlikely), the big bang theory or something similar becoming a law, among several other things that I used to have examples of but can't think of at the moment. After the next few generations die out, I can't really see religion holding as strong of a hold on our society as it currently does anyway.



* Ketchup Revenge	Aug 8 2016, 12:27 AM Post #50
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	ObsessiveFanGirl Aug 8 2016, 12:13 AM I don't think we'll ever get to the point of saying with absolute certainty that a deity doesn't exist; however, I do believe that science will reach the point where religion no longer makes any sense whatsoever/holds no place in society anymore. To be honest FanGirl, I'm already at that point personally, but belief in the supernatural is personal. As long as there is the unknown (which will be always), there will be a place for the human imagination to fill in the blanks. Or as Neil deGrasse Tyson stated, God is a forever shrinking pocket of scientific ignorance. It's always "God did it" until we find out what is really is. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, Aug 8 2016, 12:29 AM.
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Dankness Lava	Aug 8 2016, 12:40 AM Post #51
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	I don't have much scientific knowledge, but isn't there plenty of scientific fact that can still be attributed to him? Other than the less-accepted theories.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 8 2016, 12:46 AM Post #52
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	Like what? I've never heard of any scientific theory that supports the idea of an Abrahamic god.



Dankness Lava	Aug 8 2016, 12:56 AM Post #53
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	I meant ones linked to the origin of the universe. Sorry if I'm not making sense.



~~Doggo Champion 2k17~~	Aug 8 2016, 01:15 AM Post #54
Posts: 7,931 Group: GTFO Member #6,380 Joined: June 20, 2011 Country United States Favourite Anime here comes What Browser do you use? o shit waddup! Favourite Manga dat boi	I don't think there are any scientific theories regarding the origin of the universe that support Abrahamic faiths.



breaker335	Aug 8 2016, 01:17 AM Post #55
Posts: 879 Group: Member Member #13,278 Joined: June 5, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	How did the Big Bang theory originate anyways?



Goddess Ultimecia	Aug 8 2016, 01:18 AM Post #56
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	breaker335 Aug 8 2016, 01:17 AM How did the Big Bang theory originate anyways? Catholic science guy iirc.
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Dankness Lava	Aug 8 2016, 01:21 AM Post #57
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Ah well. If I had to choose between our Father and the theories of science, the choice is easy. If I'm wrong, I know I'm not in the wrong. @Goddess Ultimecua is that so? That really leaves me wondering. If the Catholics were once on a crusade to eliminate Christians, maybe that was done in the same vein. Edited by Dankness Lava, Aug 8 2016, 01:25 AM.



Goddess Ultimecia	Aug 8 2016, 01:22 AM Post #58
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Shining Light Aug 8 2016, 01:21 AM Ah well. If I had to choose between our Father and the theories of science, the choice is easy. If I'm wrong, I know I'm not in the wrong. You might want to add a -y to -our.
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+ Pelador	Aug 8 2016, 01:25 AM Post #59
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	breaker335 Aug 8 2016, 01:17 AM How did the Big Bang theory originate anyways? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_Bang As with most science it was expanded upon over time.
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Dankness Lava	Aug 8 2016, 01:28 AM Post #60
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Goddess Ultimecia Aug 8 2016, 01:22 AM Shining Light Aug 8 2016, 01:21 AM Ah well. If I had to choose between our Father and the theories of science, the choice is easy. If I'm wrong, I know I'm not in the wrong. You might want to add a -y to -our. Not necessary. When I say "our", I'm referring to us believers. God is the Father of all who welcome him. Otherwise, the adversary would be one's father.



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