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Your Religious Views?
Topic Started: Aug 7 2016, 04:13 AM (12,561 Views)
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Aug 10 2016, 01:18 AM
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Aug 8 2016, 10:38 PM
Any pantheists here?
Pantheism, what's that? I'm too lazy to look it up.
A doctrine that regards the universe as a manifestation of God.
Ah, okay thanks.
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Pantheism sounds...dumb to me, like what's the point?

The universe is God? Why? What does it do? Just exist and nothing else? Not much of a God then really.
It's like as much of a God as I am with my trillions of cells all doing their...cell stuff.


My religious views are that I believe that a God can exist, not necessarily does. As well as that I don't really see why us lowly creatures would have any business understanding what it is or does.
As in I don't think any of us could rightly read the word of God let alone speak it, thus, organized religion in my eyes is kind of pointless.
If it was definitely real...shouldn't we know? Shouldn't there be some shred of proof?
Why would any God as intelligent as you'd think a God would be think we would all be satisfied with the written word of some people thousands of years ago? Rather than erect some crazy monument no human could have built.
If any God had really came in contact with us I don't think we'd be so divided.

It's good in some ways such as bringing people together and how faith can make people happy but when there are like 3000 different religions and all of them are more real than the other ones and squabble among each other, then it becomes stupid.

To me spiritual ones are the only religions that have any real worth, until some definite God makes contact with us we should try reduce the grip religion has on the world.
It clearly causes far more destruction than good, be it literal or metaphorical in that it's yet another thing to divide humanity.
Largely it just seems to be an excuse people use to dictate how others should live.
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Aug 10 2016, 01:43 AM
Pantheism sounds...dumb to me, like what's the point?

The universe is God? Why? What does it do? Just exist and nothing else? Not much of a God then really.
It's like as much of a God as I am with my trillions of cells all doing their...cell stuff.


My religious views are that I believe that a God can exist, not necessarily does. As well as that I don't really see why us lowly creatures would have any business understanding what it is or does.
As in I don't think any of us could rightly read the word of God let alone speak it, thus, organized religion in my eyes is kind of pointless.
If it was definitely real...shouldn't we know? Shouldn't there be some shred of proof?
Why would any God as intelligent as you'd think a God would be think we would all be satisfied with the written word of some people thousands of years ago? Rather than erect some crazy monument no human could have built.
If any God had really came in contact with us I don't think we'd be so divided.

It's good in some ways such as bringing people together and how faith can make people happy but when there are like 3000 different religions and all of them are more real than the other ones and squabble among each other, then it becomes stupid.

To me spiritual ones are the only religions that have any real worth, until some definite God makes contact with us we should try reduce the grip religion has on the world.
It clearly causes far more destruction than good, be it literal or metaphorical in that it's yet another thing to divide humanity.
Largely it just seems to be an excuse people use to dictate how others should live.
One could quote Truth from Fullmetal Alchemist, which is a fairly cool way of viewing it.

"Some call me the World, or the Universe, or God. I am all, and I am one. But of course that also means that I am you."
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Aug 10 2016, 01:43 AM
Pantheism sounds...dumb to me, like what's the point?
Jeez Steve, everything sounds or seems stupid to you unless you like it.
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Why would any God as intelligent as you'd think a God would be think we would all be satisfied with the written word of some people thousands of years ago? Rather than erect some crazy monument no human could have built.
If any God had really came in contact with us I don't think we'd be so divided.

The Christian argument against that would be that God made our lives challenging on purpose, to test our devotion and love for him. We could have had perfect lives had Adam and Eve not screwed up in the Garden of Eden. Only a very small portion of the world's population will make it into heaven--only the most dedicated followers who refuse to give into sin. The bible openly states several times that the majority of people will reject God. That pretty much sums up where we're at today.
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If anyone here has read a bit of the bible you should know this is a very different place than what we was taught be school.
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Aug 10 2016, 07:50 AM
If anyone here has read a bit of the bible you should know this is a very different place than what we was taught be school.
What are you talking about?
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Why would any God as intelligent as you'd think a God would be think we would all be satisfied with the written word of some people thousands of years ago? Rather than erect some crazy monument no human could have built.
If any God had really came in contact with us I don't think we'd be so divided.

The Christian argument against that would be that God made our lives challenging on purpose, to test our devotion and love for him. We could have had perfect lives had Adam and Eve not screwed up in the Garden of Eden. Only a very small portion of the world's population will make it into heaven--only the most dedicated followers who refuse to give into sin. The bible openly states several times that the majority of people will reject God. That pretty much sums up where we're at today.
God should know whether a person is eligible to go to Heaven before they even exist, right? Otherwise, he's hardly Omniscient.
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Aug 10 2016, 08:05 AM
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Why would any God as intelligent as you'd think a God would be think we would all be satisfied with the written word of some people thousands of years ago? Rather than erect some crazy monument no human could have built.
If any God had really came in contact with us I don't think we'd be so divided.

The Christian argument against that would be that God made our lives challenging on purpose, to test our devotion and love for him. We could have had perfect lives had Adam and Eve not screwed up in the Garden of Eden. Only a very small portion of the world's population will make it into heaven--only the most dedicated followers who refuse to give into sin. The bible openly states several times that the majority of people will reject God. That pretty much sums up where we're at today.
God should know whether a person is eligible to go to Heaven before they even exist, right? Otherwise, he's hardly Omniscient.
I understand that God is able to read our hearts, and knows if we're eligible before the day of atonement. But that doesn't mean each and every one of us has a plan that will be fulfilled to a T. Sometimes we screw up and the plan falters. Who is to say that he doesn't have backups for potential screw ups to take the spot?

These are just things that swim through my head.
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I think Nagito is saying that if God is omniscient, then he knows exactly what will happen. He shouldn't need back-ups and possibilities if he knows everything, he'll just know exactly how somebody's life will pan out.
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This is why I always thought if there was a god, he's an observer. He made the universe and just let nature take its course.
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Well except we are capable of changing our hearts.

What exactly is true omniscience anyway?
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Knowing every single possible outcome that can, will or did happen.
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Omniscience is to know everything. As in absolutely everything. So there's no way we could do anything, like changing our hearts, because an omniscient being would know that that's what would happen. Think of it like this: an omniscient being would be able to answer the question: "What will happen to Shining Light between now and his death?" It would be able to answer that question in 100% detail, down to how many hairs have fallen off your head, how many times you blinked etc. If you were going to have a change of heart in your life, it would know.
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Hmm. I can't add anything to that lol.
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