Stephen King's It (September 8, 2017)

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Stephen King's It (September 8, 2017)
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 28 2017, 11:11 PM Post #31
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Idk what doesn't look scary about it.
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lazerbem	Jul 28 2017, 11:33 PM Post #32
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Steve Jul 28 2017, 10:17 PM I honestly think it doesn't look scary at all. I really hope someone makes a horror movie without CGI one day. Practical effects are so much more convincing. Obviously a small amount of CGI is fine but nothing will ever creep me out as much as The Thing in the not-actually-the-original movie. To me this looks like a movie nobody would care about if the first one and the book didn't exist. Look to 70% of the "possessed" genre movie. They get away with incredibly minimal effects and have flooded the market. Come on, horror movies that aren't CGI are ridiculously common. Also, remember the giant spider from the original It. That thing was practical and it still came off as meh.
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+ Steve	Jul 29 2017, 12:21 AM Post #33
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	lazerbem Jul 28 2017, 11:33 PM Look to 70% of the "possessed" genre movie. They get away with incredibly minimal effects and have flooded the market. Come on, horror movies that aren't CGI are ridiculously common. Also, remember the giant spider from the original It. That thing was practical and it still came off as meh. Having as little practical effects as possible hardly counts... And I never said they're always good but if a film from the 70's can have far more real and creepy looking monsters than CGI today...imagine what they could achieve with practical effects today? The original Xenomorph is still terrifying, compared to the CGI crap in the recent movie.
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lazerbem	Jul 29 2017, 01:21 AM Post #34
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Quote: Having as little practical effects as possible hardly counts... Yeah, it does. You said a horror movie without CGI, I provided. Also, the Saw franchise and associated things are minimal CG too with lots of practical. Quote: And I never said they're always good but if a film from the 70's can have far more real and creepy looking monsters than CGI today...imagine what they could achieve with practical effects today? That has very little to do with effects and more with shooting styles. You'll notice 70's monsters are utterly incapable of moving with any kind of speed on-screen and so the movement has to be implied or done over very short bursts, and so the filming is made to compensate that by using different camera angles to avoid showing the robot's innards or whatever. Quote: The original Xenomorph is still terrifying, compared to the CGI crap in the recent movie. Because it's filmed better, maybe. But not due to any real difference in regards to the puppet, as you can see here where even a simple tail swipe requires a very awkward series of cuts to avoid any problems, and even then the Xenomorph just holding his arms straight in front of his head stock still isn't so grand.
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Strawberry	Jul 29 2017, 02:02 AM Post #35
Chiaroscuro ♥ Posts: 17,000 Group: Rock Princess Member #1,750 Joined: September 24, 2006	So am I alone here in thinking the trailer looks awesome? I'm dying to watch this movie. Pennywise was absolutely terrifying for me as a kid and now I can't help but find him kinda goofy looking, so I'm glad the imagery and styling is being revamped and I really like what I'm seeing so far
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 29 2017, 02:03 AM Post #36
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+ Steve	Jul 29 2017, 07:11 AM Post #37
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Quote: Yeah, it does. You said a horror movie without CGI, I provided. Also, the Saw franchise and associated things are minimal CG too with lots of practical. Are you suggesting Saw is actual horror and not just gore porn? There's nothing scary about the Saw films they're just disgusting. Quote: That has very little to do with effects and more with shooting styles. You'll notice 70's monsters are utterly incapable of moving with any kind of speed on-screen and so the movement has to be implied or done over very short bursts, and so the filming is made to compensate that by using different camera angles to avoid showing the robot's innards or whatever. Which matters why? They're still convincing, it's better than seeing a big blob on the screen that looks like it was photoshopped there. Alien 3's CGI is a good example when you see the Xeno run it looks appallingly bad. Obviously things have come along since then but it still never looks real. Surely a movie with mostly practical effects could be done amazingly well with animatronics and general movie making techniques today.
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Darker	Jul 29 2017, 07:56 AM Post #38
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Steve Jul 28 2017, 10:17 PM To me this looks like a movie nobody would care about if the first one and the book didn't exist. You could say that about literally any movie
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+ Steve	Jul 29 2017, 09:01 AM Post #39
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Darker Jul 29 2017, 07:56 AM Steve Jul 28 2017, 10:17 PM To me this looks like a movie nobody would care about if the first one and the book didn't exist. You could say that about literally any movie How? I mean people are only hyped because IT is already a thing and apparently good. As a completely standalone experience I doubt this movie would be considered as classic as the first one. Compared to something like Halloween that stands out on it's own. I stake my claim! This movie will be "okay" at best.
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Darker	Jul 29 2017, 09:23 AM Post #40
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	It's a horror movie about a killer clown. That makes it an instant classic :P
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lazerbem	Jul 29 2017, 03:20 PM Post #41
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Quote: Are you suggesting Saw is actual horror and not just gore porn? There's nothing scary about the Saw films they're just disgusting. It's labeled as a horror movie so I'm going to call it one. Quote: Which matters why? They're still convincing, It matters because what you're complaining about has nothing to do with CGI and more to do with the fact that people want more of the monster on-screen. In fact, people complain if the monster isn't on-screen very much or if it's obscured by shots in the dark. With the prop aliens, they only look more convincing because it's close-ups with frantic cuts or otherwise a limp body. When the camera pulls out, it does look derpy. Quote: Obviously things have come along since then but it still never looks real. This one looks no different between the puppet and CGI. The only difference is that the CGI one actually moves and that's the difference you see. The puppets can move, but it looks worse when they do it. Look at the movement cycle on this puppet for instance. Even with red lights blocking out most of it, you can still see that the way its limbs move is really off Quote: Surely a movie with mostly practical effects could be done amazingly well with animatronics and general movie making techniques today. It hit critical mass. What that is to say is that animatronics can be big and impressive, but they are forced to be mostly static or at least very slow. There's still no way to make them go with any kind of speed. As such, the problem then becomes with filming styles that want to show more of the monster or give the monster more movement. That's what you should be taking issue with.
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Darker	Jul 29 2017, 03:41 PM Post #42
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	lazerbem Jul 28 2017, 11:33 PM Come on, horror movies that aren't CGI are ridiculously common. Common? Pretty much nothing but CGI and little to no practical effects are used nowadays lol Unless you go back like a few decades, when CGI was more than rare.
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lazerbem	Jul 30 2017, 03:26 AM Post #43
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Darker Jul 29 2017, 03:41 PM lazerbem Jul 28 2017, 11:33 PM Come on, horror movies that aren't CGI are ridiculously common. Common? Pretty much nothing but CGI and little to no practical effects are used nowadays lol Unless you go back like a few decades, when CGI was more than rare. Saw Sinister Insidious The Monster The Animal You're Next Hush Lights Out Don't Breathe The Boy Oculus The Belko Experiment SiREN Need I carry on? These all used either minimal or no CGI. Edited by lazerbem, Jul 30 2017, 03:34 AM.
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Darker	Jul 30 2017, 09:55 AM Post #44
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	I was mostly referring to monster movies, since you used an example of one. Like how would I not be aware of any of these.
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EMIYA	Sep 9 2017, 02:49 AM Post #45
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	So the movie has officially come out and I haven't seen it yet but I thought it would be wise to bump this topic up. I actually plan on seeing it tomorrow if possible so I'll give a proper review on it then. However, if the movie is anywhere near as good as the fans and critics of praised it right now, I find it hard that I'm not going to enjoy something about it. It's still only day one, so there's no telling what will happen. Look at "After Earth" it had a strong starting week but dropped horrendously later. Personally, I love Stephen King's work and even its most stereotypical tropes. So I probably will have a bit of a positive bias of the movie if its anywhere near faithful to the book I love.



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