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Cooler VS Lord Slug
Topic Started: Jul 11 2016, 06:19 PM (439 Views)
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Coola. I think Slug is only stronger than Freeza's initial strength in his final form, seeing as how Goku is presumably still rocking that battle power of 90,000.
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Cooler wins easily.
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Wasn't Slug in Great Namek form equal to or a bit stronger than Final Form Frieza?

I'll still give it to Cooler tho, I have his original form a bit stronger than Slugs full powed and Slug is to Big a target no matter how fast he is. Only thing he has over Cooler is Regen.
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Isn't there a statement anyways that says that the movie villains Goku faces are always stronger in the next movie?
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Jul 11 2016, 09:50 PM
Isn't there a statement anyways that says that the movie villains Goku faces are always stronger in the next movie?
Bio-Broly, and debatably Bojack, disagree on that notion.
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The Daizenshuu puts the timeline of Movie 4 basically between Goku's arrival on Namek and his transformation into a Super Saiyan, so its kind of difficult to tell if this is Pre-Zenkai or Post-Zenkai Goku.

However Movie 4 was released on March 09, 1991

With the latest chapter being:


Dragon Ball Chapter 315
ラストチャンス!特大元気玉
Rasuto Chansu! Tokudai Genki-Dama
The Last Chance! An Extra-Large Genki-Dama
05 March 1991
Weekly Shōnen Jump 1991 #13

So by the time the movie was released, they definitely knew Goku had gotten stronger since arriving on Namek.


Dragon Ball Chapter 306
孫悟空…復活!!
Son Gokū…Fukkatsu!!
Son Goku… Revived!!
19 December 1990
Weekly Shōnen Jump 1991 #03/04

Above is essentially the chapter when Goku gets out of the healing chamber and we're specifically told he's gotten stronger and you can see this was nearly 3 months ago before Movie 4's released. I think there's a strong case that, yes, Goku may very well be Post-Zenkai in Movie 4. Throughout the entire manga its been building up the Super Saiyan legend and the entire fight with Freeza is everyone chatting about it. Vegetea spends the entire volume ranting about the "Super Saiyan." and how Goku is now the "Super Saiyan." and its at this point that its been built up so strongly. And of course a few chapters later we do get to see it.

If that's the case and Goku is getting the same boost as he does on Namek, yeah Slug would win, inferring Giant Slug and 4th Form Cooler. Giant Slug was stated to not only be stronger than Freeza but potentially even stronger than a Super Saiyan as well. However if you think Goku is Pre-Zenkai I don't think that's necessarily wrong.

EDIT: And the thing is, the boost for Super Saiyan in movie 4 might actually be larger than it is on Namek. The guides tell us that Goku needed to use a Kaioken X100 once he borrowed energy from Piccolo and there's heavy implication that Giant Slug was still able to duke it out with Goku at the time. He survives getting a hole busted through him, he (off screen) seems to duke it out with Goku in the sky (we see explosions and stuff) and then is finally defeated by a Genki-Dama.
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Isn't there a statement anyways that says that the movie villains Goku faces are always stronger in the next movie?
Bio-Broly, and debatably Bojack, disagree on that notion.
But the statement does specifically say each villain that "Goku" faces. Goku didn't face Bojack (well sort of) or Bio-Broly.
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