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Goku and vegeta power level now; How strong are they
Topic Started: Jul 8 2016, 01:38 AM (1,846 Views)
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Ssj3 gotenks 0.90
Vegito base 2
Ssj vegito 3/4
Base goku\vegeta 4
Ssj 3 vegito 5 or 41\2
ssj goku 5
Ssj 2 goku 6
Ssj 3 goku 7
Ssj blue goku\vegeta 8
Ssj blue goku Kaioken x10 10
Beerus 10

Beerus would still win because goku body will give out after a while. I feel like the only way the kaioken would be any help is if it a 10 because his body will be on a time limit.

what you guy's think of this? Am I way off?
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Why is Kaioken x10 now Kaioken x 1.25?
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Why are the Super Saiyan multipliers so minuscule as well?
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Jul 8 2016, 01:45 AM
Why is Kaioken x10 now Kaioken x 1.25?
Idk some how even with kaioken they still have him weaker then beerus. Maybe Kaio Ken work's different with god ki compared to regular ki.
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I'm afraid not. As Goku's Kaio-ken was building, Hit said, "3 times, 4 times, no...!"
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Jul 8 2016, 01:52 AM
I'm afraid not. As Goku's Kaio-ken was building, Hit said, "3 times, 4 times, no...!"
Then why they still have him under beers at that point?
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Because the 6, 10, 15 scale doesn't apply anymore.
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DB super powerscaling really confuses me, even though I haven't really gotten into Super too much, I just don't get it. If I remember correctly, Toryiama said that -

Ssjg Goku - 6
Beerus - 10
Whis - 15

Even if these numbers don't apply, wasn't Beerus using like, 60-70% of his power against ssgss Goku, or was that just a dubline?
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That was in the original Japanese, but only for the film. That said, Beerus does claim to use 10% of his power against angry Vegeta, but seeing as how Super Saiyan Blue Goku got 10 times stronger himself after using Kaio-ken, that's clearly a load of bull, unless Beerus has been getting stronger in his sleep.
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That was a line in the movie, in the anime however there was only Beerus saying that he used ten percent against ssj2 Vegeta.

Pretty much every statement from the gods regarding power in the anime however has been revealed to be a lie however. There is pretty much no way to actually gauge Beerus's and the other God's power because of this. There really is no way to have the statements of power work in either the movie or the anime together with what we are shown in the anime.
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The manga hasn't broken the scaling yet, to my knowledge, so I guess you could try to make it work with that since Kaioken wasn't a thing in that.
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Ssg Goku should be much stronger than an angry ssj2 Vegeta, and if Beerus used 10% against him then, I see him using at the very least 50% against Goku, unless Vegeta really REALLY pushed himself, which we know he did push himself past ssj3 Goku, who is absolutely nothing compared to ssg Goku.
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A possible explanation could be that each percentage has a different power on it. Illogical, yes, but if Beerus could be at 10 trillion at 10%, jumping up by 1% could be looked at as having a much more load of power that dwarfs the 10 trillion.

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The manga is certainly more subdued and consistent, but separating God from Blue is confusing, based on how Blue is described in both the anime and movie.
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The manga is certainly more subdued and consistent, but separating God from Blue is confusing, based on how Blue is described in both the anime and movie.
How does that make it complicated?
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