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how strong is king cold 100% ?
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Notaka	Jul 5 2016, 10:16 PM Post #16
Always Wright Posts: 4,070 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	He's strong enough to aid Frieza in taking down Goku. I'd put him at best 110 millions.
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 5 2016, 10:21 PM Post #17
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Pyrus Jul 5 2016, 10:13 PM SSbardock84 Jul 5 2016, 10:03 PM Pyrus Jul 5 2016, 07:35 PM breaker335 Jul 5 2016, 07:34 PM I always found the Frieza being stronger than Cold thing hard to swallow cause isn't his whole family said to be mutants which is why they're so unnaturally strong? That would include Cold. Not to mention given how ruthless Frieza is, he would've taken out his old man a long time ago and have the galaxy all to himself. Freeza was stated to be a mutant. Nothing about Cold. Not in the manga or anime but I thought it was stated that both Frieza and King Cold were mutants. I don't remember anything being stated about Cold except that he was as strong as Freeza's suppressed power. Well if I find anything I'll share it but I just thought it was stated they were both mutants. King Cold obviously weaker but he's much stronger than their race, their race isn't supposed to be very powerful or something.
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Omega Z	Jul 5 2016, 10:27 PM Post #18
Destroyer of Hopes and Dreams Posts: 226 Group: Member Member #12,213 Joined: April 3, 2015 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime One Punch Man / HunterXHunter / My Hero Academia What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball / One Piece / Berserk	If I'm remembering correctly (and I think I am), BOTH Freeza and Cold are mutants, and absurdly strong/evil when compared to the other members of their race. I also remember the reason behind their race's transformations were explained to help them intimidate/hide from potential predators, so not only Freeza can transform. Having that in mind, Cold is kind of story breaking Power-wise, I would put the hypothetical Final Form 100% Cold at Perfect Cell Tier easy.
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+ Son-Goku	Jul 5 2016, 10:29 PM Post #19
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	Omega Zee Jul 5 2016, 10:27 PM If I'm remembering correctly (and I think I am), BOTH Freeza and Cold are mutants, and absurdly strong/evil when compared to the other members of their race. I also remember the reason behind their race's transformations were explained to help them intimidate/hide from potential predators, so not only Freeza can transform. Having that in mind, Cold is kind of story breaking Power-wise, I would put the hypothetical Final Form 100% Cold at Perfect Cell Tier easy. That can't be though because Frieza is stated to be stronger. While I agree that King Cold can transform I don't think his transformations would be stronger than Frieza.
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+ Pyrus	Jul 5 2016, 10:55 PM Post #20
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	That would be a critical thing to omit from any story material. "Yeah, you know, this guy from one of the early sagas is actually just as powerful as the villain from a later saga. He just never got the chance to show off." Edited by Pyrus, Jul 5 2016, 10:56 PM.
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breaker335	Jul 5 2016, 11:06 PM Post #21
Posts: 879 Group: Member Member #13,278 Joined: June 5, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Pyrus Jul 5 2016, 10:55 PM That would be a critical thing to omit from any story material. "Yeah, you know, this guy from one of the early sagas is actually just as powerful as the villain from a later saga. He just never got the chance to show off." So...Frieza in Super?



Slifer	Jul 5 2016, 11:21 PM Post #22
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	breaker335 Jul 5 2016, 11:06 PM Pyrus Jul 5 2016, 10:55 PM That would be a critical thing to omit from any story material. "Yeah, you know, this guy from one of the early sagas is actually just as powerful as the villain from a later saga. He just never got the chance to show off." So...Frieza in Super? What? Freeza trained in Super to get his increase...



+ Pyrus	Jul 5 2016, 11:30 PM Post #23
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Yeah, Freeza trained, however bulls*** it was. It isn't like he was revived, transformed, and boom, stronger than Majin Boo. That's what the "hypothetical final form Cold is Cell tier" is equivalent to.
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RealSociedad	Jul 6 2016, 12:05 AM Post #24
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Cold could not transform, else he would not use a sword as his last effort. But if he could transform to 100% 4th form he could be as strong as perfect Cell. 5th form would let him between perfect Cell and SSJ2 kid Gohan.



+ Son-Goku	Jul 6 2016, 01:45 AM Post #25
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	I think the only time it was stated that Cold could transform was in the 3rd Dragon Book.
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Thiln	Jul 6 2016, 08:42 PM Post #26
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	Mr. Hashbrowns Jul 5 2016, 08:13 PM breaker335 Jul 5 2016, 08:08 PM Mr. Hashbrowns Jul 5 2016, 07:53 PM There is no final form with Cold. If there was, and his increases were scaled to match Freeza's, Cold would likely be Perfect Cell-tier which is absurd. I put him at an even 100 million. Not really absurd since he never got a chance to show off any of his abilities. He was two-shotted by Trunks. It's absurd because it makes his character one of the dumbest in the DB universe. Your son, whom is stronger than your current form just got lolstomped by this Super Saiyan thing. Instead of powering up (which he had plenty of time to do), you apparently thinks your best bet is using a sword. Hey don't mock the sword. If that had been a sword made out of Katchin alloy sharpened to a nanonmetre's dimension then Trunks's hand and arm would have likely been cut in half like paper, regardless of power level. That metal is the adamantium of DBZ. To answer the original question, I don't doubt that Cold may have been suppressed when he was killed. Transformations? No. But I think there was more to his power than what was shown.



Goku9000	Jul 6 2016, 08:47 PM Post #27
Posts: 416 Group: Member Member #13,229 Joined: May 27, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ, Tokyo Ghoul, Highschool of the dead, Elfen lied, Deadman wonderland. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Still weaker than Frieza.



Omega Z	Jul 6 2016, 11:48 PM Post #28
Destroyer of Hopes and Dreams Posts: 226 Group: Member Member #12,213 Joined: April 3, 2015 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime One Punch Man / HunterXHunter / My Hero Academia What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball / One Piece / Berserk	SSbardock84 Jul 5 2016, 10:29 PM Omega Zee Jul 5 2016, 10:27 PM If I'm remembering correctly (and I think I am), BOTH Freeza and Cold are mutants, and absurdly strong/evil when compared to the other members of their race. I also remember the reason behind their race's transformations were explained to help them intimidate/hide from potential predators, so not only Freeza can transform. Having that in mind, Cold is kind of story breaking Power-wise, I would put the hypothetical Final Form 100% Cold at Perfect Cell Tier easy. That can't be though because Frieza is stated to be stronger. While I agree that King Cold can transform I don't think his transformations would be stronger than Frieza. That's why it's story breaking. Cold needs to be weaker than Freeza, or else he wouldn't let him boast about being the strongest in the universe (despite Cold supposedly having knowledge of Majin Boo and Beerus angrily sneers at Toriyama), but since Cold should also be able to transform, and he is close enough to Freeza power-wise in his 2nd form, he should laughably stronger than Freeza. The only way I can think of 100% Cold being weaker than Freeza in a way that makes sense would be if Cold's transformations gave him a much smaller boost than Freeza's gave him. You could explain it as Freeza being a prodigy, or whatever he was called he was being hyped up for FNF.
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* Yu Narukami	Jul 6 2016, 11:52 PM Post #29
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	The assumption here is strong. Cold doesn't necessarily have transformations. In fact, if I had to guess, that's just his normal form, and Freeza decided to base his second suppression form on him.



+ Pyrus	Jul 6 2016, 11:58 PM Post #30
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	There's no reason for the form we see Cold in to be his second form either.
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