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Super Episode 49 (26 June 2016)
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Jun 26 2016, 12:32 AM
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Wow, where I do I begin? This was quite an episode. Ok, so Trunks just had PTSD, and Bulma slapped him out of it really quickly. After that, Beerus and Whis examine Trunks's time machine, where Whis explains the butterfly effect. Beerus wants to destroy it, but Trunks pleads with Whis not to destroy it, thinking Whis is the god of destruction. Beerus agrees not to destroy it if they give him something he's never eaten before, and of course they do. Vegeta then proceeds to ask what Trunks is doing in the present, and if Majin Boo is the cause. Trunks explains that Bobbidi tried to revive Boo in his timeline, but Trunks trained with Kaioshin and managed to defeat Dabura and Bobbidi preventing his resurrection. Trunks then explains that the person that's responsible for his dark future is Goku, or rather Goku-Black. After this Goku wants to spar with Trunks to see how strong Trunks has become, and Trunks transforms into a Super Saiyan 2, and his able to keep up with Goku. Goku then turns into a Super Saiyan 3 and defeats Trunks. At that point Piccolo and Kuririn show up, and when they show up Black appears in the present and is surprised to see Goku. That's where the episode ends. It was a very good one, but my stream kept cutting out toward the end, which pissed me off! EDIT: Summary
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Trunks has attacked Goku, much to everyone’s confusion, but Bulma quickly smacks some sense into him. Trunks is amazed to see Goku still alive, since last he knew Goku died during the battle with Cell.
Goku says that “a lot” has happened since then, and Bulma asks Trunks what’s going on. Hearing that this young man is named “Trunks”, Beerus and Whis confirm that this is also kid Trunks’ name, and guess that time travel shenanigans are afoot.
Meanwhile, the Pilaf Gang continue to make a fuss about Future Trunks being Bulma and Vegeta’s illegitimate child and what a scandal this all is, so Bulma finally explains for everyone that the two Trunks are simply two different versions of the same person, from different time periods. Kid Trunks is shocked to learn that this newcomer is a version of himself from the future.
Everyone goes outside to the time machine, which Bulma explains is her great invention. Future Trunks notes how he previously used it to come to this time line when kid Trunks was just a baby. Whis is impressed that a human could really build a time machine…but points out that it’s a serious crime to travel to the past or future, or otherwise manipulate time.
Meanwhile in the future, Goku Black continues to be perplexed at his inability to locate Trunks. He can’t find Trunks’ ki anywhere on the planet. However, there’s a sudden reaction from the ring on his finger. This “Time Ring”, as he calls it, creates a portal…
Back in the present, Whis explains how time is ordinarily only supposed to flow in one direction. If you turn back time to travel to the past and, for instance, pluck a flower, this can have an enormous effect on all later history. Cities and even entire cultures can change, and whole planets can vanish from the universe.
That’s why time travel is strictly regulated, even among the gods. Trunks is surprised to hear Whis mention “gods”, and Bulma explains that Whis and Beerus came from “the world of the gods”.
Beerus says that he could destroy all of them for this crime, and Bulma freaks out, saying that she wasn’t actually the one who built the time machine: it was only her future self! Beerus thinks it hardly makes a difference though.
Meanwhile, Trunks desperately begs Whis for mercy…but Whis explains that Beerus is the god, not him (he’s just an attendant). Trunks now begs Beerus to punish him alone and spare his mother, and Beerus agrees to overlook the offense if they treat him to a new food. Bulma provides some fish sausages, which satisfy Beerus and Whis.
Over in the fields, Piccolo and Kuririn have finally finished the harvest. Chi Chi tells them about the reappearance of the time machine and Future Trunks, so they hurry over to Capsule Corporation. Goten wants to go too, but Chi Chi is adamant that he needs to study for his test.
Bulma (with the Pilaf Gang tagging along) goes into the time machine to check out its condition. She discovers that it has run out of fuel, meaning Future Trunks can’t return to his own time. However, just as Bulma wonders what her future self had in mind, she discovers a notebook in her own handwriting, addressed to herself.
Vegeta asks Trunks what’s gone wrong in the future. Did Majin Boo appear? Trunks explains that no, he was able to defeat Dabra and Babidi and successfully prevent Boo’s resurrection, with help from the instructions Kaioshin gave him (though it was a difficult fight). However, afterwards an even more fearsome foe appeared…
At this point, Trunks again apologizes for attacking Goku. When he saw Goku, he mistook him for this new opponent, and assumed he had failed to travel back in time. In fact, the enemy in the future calls himself “Son Goku”, and looks just like him. However, he wears black clothing, and so they in the future have taken to calling him “Goku Black”. Bulma complains about this clichéd name, but Future Trunks says it was her future self who coined it.
Trunks goes on: when this “Goku Black” appeared on Earth, he said he would exterminate all the Earthlings “for the sake of justice”. Black said he has already wiped out several planets and their inhabitants like this. After fighting against Black for a year, there are now very few Earthlings left in the future. Even Bulma was killed shortly before he came to the past.
Vegeta criticizes his son for “shamelessly” running away, but Bulma steps in, saying the answers are all in the notebook she found. It’s a message from her future self: besides notes (in Bulma’s bad handwriting) it also contains a disc, all full of data for repairing and maintaining the time machine.
With this, Bulma can create more fuel, allowing Trunks to bring Goku and Vegeta back with him to the future to defeat Black. Goku is up for the task, but Vegeta insists he’ll be the one to defeat this future Kakarot. Meanwhile, Beerus thinks they’re all underestimating the complexity of time.
Goku requests a short sparring match with Trunks, in order to help him gauge how strong Black must be. Trunks quickly powers up to his Super Saiyan 2 form, so Goku follows suit. In order to prevent any collateral damage from the match, Bulma activates a protective force field around Capsule Corporation.
Goku is impressed with Trunks’ strength, but Trunks notes how it was no use against Black, who kept powering up more and more as they fought. Hearing this, Goku becomes Super Saiyan 3, and blocks Trunks’ full power blow with just his fingers.
Though Trunks is quickly beaten, Goku is still impressed at how much he’s improved all on his own. And yet this means Black must be even stronger. Trunks confirms this, saying that Black is at least as strong as Goku, if not stronger. Goku is happy to hear this.
Piccolo and Kuririn arrive, but before Trunks can fill them in on the story, a portal appears in the sky and Black steps out. He quickly spots Trunks, then Goku. “So, you’re Son Goku?” “You’re Black, I take it?” The two eye each other intensely…
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Jun 26 2016, 03:09 PM
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- Jun 26 2016, 03:06 PM
If Trunks trained with Kaioshin, would that mean that he's got more potential than Gohan? I doubt they cracked the Z-Sword open. But he had more Z-Sword training though if it was with the Z-Sword. It was nine years and Gohan's training was like one day.
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Jun 26 2016, 04:18 PM
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- Jun 26 2016, 01:50 PM
I enjoyed the fact Trunks didn't mess around and he killed Dabura and Babidi right off the bat, plus it does make sense that they'd turn up later due to there being less energy on Earth. Plus Trunks vaporising the spit before it touched him was cool.
The thing is now that unless Goku and Vegeta do indeed have two base forms we now have base, ssj and ssj2 Trunks pretty much matching Goku. Which implies base Goku/Vegeta post God > base Trunks > first form Frieza > 'mystic' Gohan > ssj3 Gotenks
And Trunks did this by himself? If he's gotten to such unbelievable heights how did he think Gohan and Vegeta could help? I guess maybe he's developed that much in the past year fighting and surviving against Black but that means Black is really rubbish at killing him. The androids kept him alive as a play thing, Black's sole objective seems to be to kill Trunks and yet he's failed for a year despite being stronger.
The power scaling is far more ridiculous than GT ever was. I think Trunks assumed Gohan and Vegeta would have kept training after the battle with Cell.
Vegeta of course did keep training, but Gohan did not and fell in power between the Cell Games and the revival of Buu.
But Future Trunks would not have known this. The Gohan he knew in his timeline trained constantly in the hopes of growing powerful enough to stop the Androids and the present Gohan trained the entire time he was in the past.
So, Trunks honestly had no idea Gohan has gotten so rusty that he can barely become a Super Sayian at this point. He likely assumed Gohan and his father had gained some kind of new power that he could use to fight Black.
Or at the very least, he could get stronger in the past like he did the first time.
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Jun 26 2016, 04:27 PM
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If Trunks trained with Kaioshin, would that mean that he's got more potential than Gohan?
I doubt they cracked the Z-Sword open. But he had more Z-Sword training though if it was with the Z-Sword. It was nine years and Gohan's training was like one day. I do wonder if the Sword that Trunks is carrying around is the Z-Sword.
His old one shattered during the battle with 18 in the past, but this one has survived being turned to stone, being blasted numerous times by Black, and the general stress of battle with someone who is well above 18's level.
Something else I noticed is that Black had to dodge Trunks' sword when he threw it during their battle. Why would Black who pretty much laughed at everything else Trunks threw his way dodge a common sword? Why not toss the sphere at the sword and Trunks and be done with it?
He also looked upset that Trunks threw his blade, which kinda implies its the Z-Sword or at least a divine or special weapon that can hurt Black.
But if he trained with the Kaioshin, it would make sense that he would carry around the Z-Sword especially if he mastered it when he got ready to fight Babadi and Dabura
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Jun 26 2016, 04:47 PM
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So Goku went SSJ2 to match Trunks, but he was drawn as a SSJ, but next episode he's drawn as SSJ2.
Flashbacks to the Majin Vegeta fight where they went SSJ2 then spent the entire next episode as SSJ.
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Jun 26 2016, 04:52 PM
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- Jun 26 2016, 04:47 PM
So Goku went SSJ2 to match Trunks, but he was drawn as a SSJ, but next episode he's drawn as SSJ2.
Flashbacks to the Majin Vegeta fight where they went SSJ2 then spent the entire next episode as SSJ. Yeah, I did notice this too.(Didn't notice it was a call back though)
On-topic: Really good episode. I feel like Super is getting better. It could be my favorite show if they work on the animation though.
Do you think Black might be the first one(aside from Whis & Omni King) to surpass beerus ?
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So Goku went SSJ2 to match Trunks, but he was drawn as a SSJ, but next episode he's drawn as SSJ2.
Flashbacks to the Majin Vegeta fight where they went SSJ2 then spent the entire next episode as SSJ.
Yeah, I did notice this too.(Didn't notice it was a call back though) On-topic: Really good episode. I feel like Super is getting better. It could be my favorite show if they work on the animation though. Do you think Black might be the first one(aside from Whis & Omni King) to surpass beerus ? He kind of has to be for his threat to work, otherwise Bulma can just bribe Beerus and Whis with food and get them to kill him for everyone's sake.
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If Trunks trained with Kaioshin, would that mean that he's got more potential than Gohan?
I doubt they cracked the Z-Sword open. But he had more Z-Sword training though if it was with the Z-Sword. It was nine years and Gohan's training was like one day.
I do wonder if the Sword that Trunks is carrying around is the Z-Sword. His old one shattered during the battle with 18 in the past, but this one has survived being turned to stone, being blasted numerous times by Black, and the general stress of battle with someone who is well above 18's level. Something else I noticed is that Black had to dodge Trunks' sword when he threw it during their battle. Why would Black who pretty much laughed at everything else Trunks threw his way dodge a common sword? Why not toss the sphere at the sword and Trunks and be done with it? He also looked upset that Trunks threw his blade, which kinda implies its the Z-Sword or at least a divine or special weapon that can hurt Black. But if he trained with the Kaioshin, it would make sense that he would carry around the Z-Sword especially if he mastered it when he got ready to fight Babadi and Dabura But it didn't look anything like the Z-Sword so it can't be. While he probably mastered the Z-Sword, if he did train with it, it doesn't necessarily mean he needs to use it in battle. A heavier sword would still be harder to use even if he mastered it, kind of like Goku changing from heavy gi to light gi. He could easily move around in heavy gi but its still easier to move in light gi without any drawbacks.
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So Goku went SSJ2 to match Trunks, but he was drawn as a SSJ, but next episode he's drawn as SSJ2.
Flashbacks to the Majin Vegeta fight where they went SSJ2 then spent the entire next episode as SSJ.
Yeah, I did notice this too.(Didn't notice it was a call back though) On-topic: Really good episode. I feel like Super is getting better. It could be my favorite show if they work on the animation though. Do you think Black might be the first one(aside from Whis & Omni King) to surpass beerus ?
He kind of has to be for his threat to work, otherwise Bulma can just bribe Beerus and Whis with food and get them to kill him for everyone's sake. That didn't work with Golden Freeza, they're massively apathetic. Alternatively, Black could pull a Sorbet and shoot them in the backs.
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So Goku went SSJ2 to match Trunks, but he was drawn as a SSJ, but next episode he's drawn as SSJ2.
Flashbacks to the Majin Vegeta fight where they went SSJ2 then spent the entire next episode as SSJ.
Yeah, I did notice this too.(Didn't notice it was a call back though) On-topic: Really good episode. I feel like Super is getting better. It could be my favorite show if they work on the animation though. Do you think Black might be the first one(aside from Whis & Omni King) to surpass beerus ?
He kind of has to be for his threat to work, otherwise Bulma can just bribe Beerus and Whis with food and get them to kill him for everyone's sake.
That didn't work with Golden Freeza, they're massively apathetic. Alternatively, Black could pull a Sorbet and shoot them in the backs. That's why Bulma keeps food on her person at all times now, hence where the random sausages in her lab coat are from
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@Flashbacks to the Majin Vegeta fight where they went SSJ2 then spent the entire next episode as SSJ.
True. But, at least in that fight in 75% of the close up shots of Goku was shown him being a SSJ2. And, here the problem is Goku is drawn completely as SSJ and in the next episode preview he is clearly drawn as a SSJ2. I mean at least at the close up shots they didn't draw him as SSJ2 in this episode. It could be an animation error but the problem is that the preview for the next episode is animated by the same people who do the current episode. So, why would they draw Goku in this episode as SSJ in all of the shots/frames and in the next episode preview they draw him as a proper SSJ2? Hell, even if it was animation/art error they could easily correct it in the finale production phase of this episode. They would just have to remove 3 of his hair bangs in the close up shots. And considering the fact the fight was like only 40 to 60 seconds max, plus the close up shots of Goku were like only 2 or 3 of them which could have been edited in the final production phase. But then I guess this could be one of the reasons they never bothered to drawn SSJ2 Goku and Trunks properly in the first place because it was not an important fight and was a very short fight. Or it could be translation error for Goku's line and he could just have been a SSJ and then powered up to SSJ3.
Anyways, aside from this problem it was still a good episode. It was more of an exposition episode which is good as it provides more information to the viewers. Also, it was a nice touch to explain about what happened to Majin Buu threat in Future Trunks timeline. The next episode looks interesting as Goku is gonna fight Black which would give us an idea of how strong Black is currently.
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Disappointing they didn't draw SSJ2 Trunks like this

Animation still needs some ironing out but besides that, solid episode.
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Toei has a bad habit of drawing SSJ2s with SSJ hair.
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@Toei has a bad habit of drawing SSJ2s with SSJ hair.
True. But, they don't do it in all the shots or frames especially if it's Goku(also especially for the close face shots) since his SSJ2 can be easily distinguished from his SSJ. If it was Vegeta or maybe Gohan(from Buu saga onwards) I can understand because it's harder to distinguish their respective SSJ2 from their respective SSJ forms. Toei has a bad habit but they somewhat do manage to distinguish the forms at least during the transformations scenes. And in Super for Goku they managed to distinguish his SSJ2 from SSJ, whenever he used it. For example, even in episode 5 they managed to show the difference in Goku's SSJ and SSJ2 hair style.
But, I guess everyone will eventually just chalk it up to animation error and Toei's bad habit of drawing SSJ2s.
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- Jun 26 2016, 06:37 PM
Toei has a bad habit of drawing SSJ2s with SSJ hair. Yeah, it looked like they did Goku's wrong versus Trunks but in the preview for the next episode his hair is right again.
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