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| Super Episode 49 (26 June 2016) | |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 12:32 AM Post #1 |
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Wow, where I do I begin? This was quite an episode. Ok, so Trunks just had PTSD, and Bulma slapped him out of it really quickly. After that, Beerus and Whis examine Trunks's time machine, where Whis explains the butterfly effect. Beerus wants to destroy it, but Trunks pleads with Whis not to destroy it, thinking Whis is the god of destruction. Beerus agrees not to destroy it if they give him something he's never eaten before, and of course they do. Vegeta then proceeds to ask what Trunks is doing in the present, and if Majin Boo is the cause. Trunks explains that Bobbidi tried to revive Boo in his timeline, but Trunks trained with Kaioshin and managed to defeat Dabura and Bobbidi preventing his resurrection. Trunks then explains that the person that's responsible for his dark future is Goku, or rather Goku-Black. After this Goku wants to spar with Trunks to see how strong Trunks has become, and Trunks transforms into a Super Saiyan 2, and his able to keep up with Goku. Goku then turns into a Super Saiyan 3 and defeats Trunks. At that point Piccolo and Kuririn show up, and when they show up Black appears in the present and is surprised to see Goku. That's where the episode ends. It was a very good one, but my stream kept cutting out toward the end, which pissed me off! EDIT: Summary
Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 26 2016, 03:18 AM.
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| lazerbem | Jun 26 2016, 12:40 AM Post #2 |
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Haven't seen it yet, but damnnnnnn, Trunks has some ridiculous boosts if his SSJ2 is keeping up. Either that, or it's the whole thing where their SSJ is actually nowhere near their god forms. |
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 26 2016, 01:09 AM Post #3 |
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Goku can use Super Saiyan 3.... ![]() |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 01:16 AM Post #4 |
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Sure, why couldn't he? The anime and manga are very different in regards to how the Super Saiyan forms work. |
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 26 2016, 01:18 AM Post #5 |
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Except apparently, the manga is a horrible crime against humanity for contradicting Toriyama yet this crap does it too and no one cares. Also, it creates a scenario where the only way to explain all of this is assume Goku & Vegeta have two base forms in the anime. That is some bullcrap. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 01:20 AM Post #6 |
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Or there's just a huge difference between SSJ3 and SSJ Blue. That works too, and to be honest, that makes sense considering Vegeta made Super Saiyan Blue out to be far ahead of Super Saiyan 3 when it was shown to Cabba.
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 26 2016, 01:23 AM Post #7 |
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Not my point, my point was a considerable portion of people reacted to Toyotaro going against Toriyama's statement some horrible crime yet when the anime does it its fine. It's predominately the double standards with the fanbase that annoy me, if you're gonna b***, at least be consistent with yourself is my point. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 01:25 AM Post #8 |
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What about Goku using Super Saiyan 3 goes against Toriyama's intentions? |
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| Tinny | Jun 26 2016, 01:27 AM Post #9 |
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But you see ekrolo2... Faster than Time and shockwaves. More seriously I haven't seen that much of that, I figured anyone still eating accepted that dbs was anticanon (contradicting so much) or never paid attention to that in the first place. Edited by Tinny, Jun 26 2016, 01:27 AM.
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 26 2016, 01:37 AM Post #10 |
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The fact he said 2 and 3 got discarded because they're useless transformations that waste too much energy and that Goku can raise his power to greater levels by focusing on Base and Super Saiyan? Something that he himself already started breaking by creating Blue which the animes done further still by retconning mastery of SS and now having Goku use 2 and 3 again. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 01:42 AM Post #11 |
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Goku uses Super Saiyan 3 to demonstrate the next level to Trunks. That's the only reason he resorts to 3 as opposed to God or Blue. |
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| ekrolo2 | Jun 26 2016, 01:47 AM Post #12 |
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Okay, then why didn't Vegeta use it on Magetta? If its still available to him I doubt him using them momentarily would cripple his reserves. Why not demonstrate them to Cabba to give him a better idea of what lies in store for him as he goes down the transformation line? Hell, why didn't Goku power up to 2 or 3 when he absorbed God and fought Beerus in the show? Hell, when Goku confronts Freeza and powers up, his SS aura glows before he activates Blue for the firs time, implying his God power merged with SS to create Blue. But then regular SS showed back up in the tournament. It's pretty obvious Super Saiyan 1, 2 and 3 weren't meant to exist after a certain point and now they do because I guess they're too iconic to get rid of. The only way to reconcile this is assume they have two base forms. Though this does little to change the fact hypocrites are gonna ignore the anime with regards to how Toriyama said they'd never use 2 and 3 anymore while damn Toyotaro for bringing back God. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 01:54 AM Post #13 |
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Well, he doesn't have Super Saiyan 3, for one. Two, I imagine he wants to refrain from using those forms as much as he can. Goku's probably using Super Saiyan 2 in this episode and the next merely because Trunks is using it. I don't have a problem with the 2-base theory TBH. The more evidence for it's necessity, the better I say. Although, I've pretty much given up scaling Super, so whatever I guess. Toriyama said they probably wouldn't return, not that they wouldn't for sure. He gave himself leeway so I don't see this as contradictory. The reason people seem to be so uppity about Super Saiyan God's return is that most assumed Super Saiyan God was channeled through Super Saiyan, making Super Saiyan Blue. Separating the forms has created confusion. |
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Jun 26 2016, 02:10 AM Post #14 |
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@Goku's probably using Super Saiyan 2 in this episode Wait wasn't Goku just SSJ in this episode? In the next episode he is clearly in SSJ2 as we can see from the hair style and bangs. Anyways, cool episode. But, I wish they could spike up or make some difference in Trunks SSJ2 and SSJ hair because they look the same. Although, I guess Trunks turning SSJ2 later on would be quite feasible and rare since it is now for most cases outclassed by other transformations and/or by stronger opponents. Also, it was cool to see babdi and dabura in Future Trunks timeline. |
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| + ThePrinceOfSaiyans | Jun 26 2016, 02:18 AM Post #15 |
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I wouldn't know. My stream cut out at that bit. |
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