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| + Pyrus | Jun 25 2016, 05:15 AM Post #16 |
 
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Gotenks-Boo and Gohan-Boo's statements. The former was wary of allowing Goku and Gohan to fuse (under the assumption it'd be the Fusion Dance), the latter outright said it wouldn't matter. |
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| Coronis | Jun 25 2016, 11:59 AM Post #17 |
 
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Ah yes, a villain being overconfident about facing an opponent he hasn't even met. |
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| EMIYA | Jun 25 2016, 12:29 PM Post #18 |
"I am the bone of my sword."
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Nothing at all says Bootenks was overconfident. In fact Boo at least has seen fusion properly multiple times and has people in it who both know and have done the move multiple times. Boo has more knowledge on fusion than anyone else in the series at this point, even down to the limit of time. Goku has never once properly done fusion, the most he's done is the moves. He's never properly tried it out, he's never properly seen Gotenks do it. By all means Goku was only seen fusion in passing when the people who taught him showed him and Goku just kind of went...eh if we do that we'll be strong. And that's not even counting Gohan whose only moment of fusion seen was when Goten and Trunks did before they got absorbed and Vegeta's never seen it past what he saw in the afterlife. I'd rather trust Boo's word on fusion than what Goku randomly thinks, that's for sure. I can bet you very well that Boo knows more about fusion than Goku does at this point. |
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| Coronis | Jun 25 2016, 12:55 PM Post #19 |
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So... because he's seen fusion he automatically knows how strong a fusion of any 2 fighters would be? Nobody, not Goku, Piccolo or Bootenks, or any of us for that matter, have any idea how exactly fusion works with regard to determining the power of the fused being. Edited by Coronis, Jun 25 2016, 12:56 PM.
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| EMIYA | Jun 25 2016, 01:16 PM Post #20 |
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Why not though? Goku was pretty confident on Gotenks and we still take his word to be true. Why can't Gotenks Boo or Gohan Boo's statements be taken just as seriously? Nothing proved his statements were wrong Edited by EMIYA, Jun 25 2016, 01:17 PM.
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| + Pyrus | Jun 25 2016, 04:43 PM Post #21 |
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Prove him wrong, then. If it's solely ignorance/arrogance fueling Boo, there must be some contradicting events that lay waste to his claims. |
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| breaker335 | Jun 25 2016, 08:40 PM Post #22 |
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Absorbing 3 Super Saiyans should add to his arrogance. Buuhan even thought Vegito was just another chump and Vegito quickly showed how wrong he was. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 25 2016, 09:21 PM Post #23 |
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That's mostly in the anime. He wasn't nearly as flippant about Vegetto in the manga, and quickly admitted he was overwhelmed when he got wrapped up. |
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| EMIYA | Jun 25 2016, 10:39 PM Post #24 |
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People, you realize arrogance is not a synonym for being wrong right? There is a very big difference between someone who is arrogant and someone who is ignorant. |
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| breaker335 | Jun 26 2016, 12:10 AM Post #25 |
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Then what was the original argument about? |
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| EMIYA | Jun 26 2016, 12:20 AM Post #26 |
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The argument was. Gotenks Boo states that a fusion of Goku and Gohan (under the belief that they are using the dance fusion) can't defeat him but simultaenously he's also a bit wary of it and because of the way the dance works, since Gohan has to power down to match Goku's level, that fusion should theoretically equal Gogeta. Take into account the fact that he knows of the SSj forms and outright knows Goku has such a transformation. It makes sense he'd kind of know what he was talking about. Meanwhile Gohan Boo states a fusion of Goku and Vegeta won't defeat. Albeit he's only sensing Base Vegeta at the time but hey, even Goku outright tells Vegetto that Potara is the only way to defeat Boo and even after they've gone inside, Goku gets quite upset with Vegetto for crushing the earnings but only suggests the dance after Boo is be depowered. It doesn't help that Potara is made to be vastly more powerful than fusion but by Vegetto's own thoughts, didn't think the gap was going to be nearly as big as it was. So if Vegetto thinks a vastly stronger fusion shouldn't be too far ahead of Boo, you can just imagine what the weaker version of fusion would be like. And counterarguments when it comes tot his and any topic involving Boo it seems to be, Boo's an arrogant dumbass and thus we shouldn't take anything he says seriously ever. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 26 2016, 12:57 AM Post #27 |
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The problem seems to be that people believe their opinion comes first and a character's word on the matter comes second, when it's really the other way around. We're the ones reading the story, following the characters through their journey. What the characters say (statements) and do (feats) guide us. Subjectivity is a dangerous drug when it comes to discussing character strength. |
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| -SuperSaiyan2 | Jun 26 2016, 03:19 AM Post #28 |
 
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Don't tell me how to think. |
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| EMIYA | Jun 26 2016, 03:45 AM Post #29 |
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Where was Boo's arrogance anyways? Gotenks Boo admits that that a fusion of Goku and Gohan could be dangerous and attempts to stop it in the first place. It's not like he stands there and waits for them to fuse, cocky enough that he can tank anything they throw at him. He was playing it pretty darn smart there and Boohan, the most that could be said was that he felt some random guy in his base form. Considering he was still under the impression that they would get the same kind of result as the dance, why shouldn't he be confident? Nothing had yet been proven to him that he was wrong. If Gotenks Boo can remain confident with Goku and Gohan, what do you think his reaction is going to be when a guy weaker than Gohan shows up? Freak out? Boo has every reason to be confident at this point. Really, it's like saying Saiyan Arc Vegeta is arrogant and wrong because he thought he could defeat Goku before meeting him. Like no s***, the strongest level he felt was at 5,000 and at most a little bit above 8,000. Vegeta had every reason to think he'd slam Goku's pasty buns in the oven. |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 26 2016, 04:03 AM Post #30 |
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Sorry, boss. I should put a disclaimer that this is only my opinion and not the absolute truth of things. |
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