Goku9000

Jun 20 2016, 09:41 PM

1. Gohan wasn't off guard. He knew Cell fired a ki blast at Vegeta, that's why he tried to save him. He wasn't fast enough to dodge the blast, and he got f***ed up as a result.

2. I believe Cell was holding back during the beam struggle, maybe because he wanted to make this battle last, he was pissed at Gohan for kicking his a*** beforehand. What caused Cell to lose was when Vegeta caught him off guard, but then again the kamehameha was enough to completely decimate Cell, so who knows, Gohan may have been stronger, or he may have just gotten a motivation boost from his father. I really don't know, that's why I'm asking for opinions.

Lazuli

Jun 20 2016, 10:22 PM

Goku9000

Jun 20 2016, 09:41 PM

1. Gohan wasn't off guard. He knew Cell fired a ki blast at Vegeta, that's why he tried to save him. He wasn't fast enough to dodge the blast, and he got f***ed up as a result.

2. I believe Cell was holding back during the beam struggle, maybe because he wanted to make this battle last, he was pissed at Gohan for kicking his a*** beforehand. What caused Cell to lose was when Vegeta caught him off guard, but then again the kamehameha was enough to completely decimate Cell, so who knows, Gohan may have been stronger, or he may have just gotten a motivation boost from his father. I really don't know, that's why I'm asking for opinions.

1) He wasn't off-guard in the sense that he didn't know a blast was coming, but he was certainly unguarded. He couldn't get there in time to block it, or swat it away, and so he threw himself in-front of it to save Vegeta taking the hit. You say it was a simple ki blast, but if a simple ki blast from base Vegeta is enough to knock an unguarded Cell off his game, then it follows that a simple ki blast from Cell can do some serious damage to an unguarded Gohan.

The gap between them if far, far smaller.

2) What evidence is there of Cell holding back? He was willing to fire the Kamehameha without Gohan putting up any further resistance, as evidenced by his shock when Gohan starts charging, so he's ready to kill, and so why would he hold back his blast? That's not to say he's giving it absolutely everything he's got like Gohan is just to keep Cell at bay, but it's not once stated or implied he's holding back.

Additionally, I think Gohan's full power must have been over Cell's in order for him to destroy him. A few chapters previous, Gohan effortlessly returns one of Cell's Kamehamehas, but the power required to do so was only enough to mangle Cell when it connected. So, in order to destroy Cell, Gohan needs to, not only use enough power to overpower Cell's blast, but then use even more in order to destroy every inch of him.

ekrolo2

Jun 21 2016, 03:33 PM

I also think it should be pointed out that regeneration takes a toll on ones energy reserves and Cell had to regrow his entire body. Creating this situation where he gained a massive Zenkai but also probably lost a considerable amount of energy getting himself back together. Its entirely possible the Super Perfect Cell we see in the manga is one who isn't truly at his full power.

This is somewhat supported in the series itself when you remember its still Gohan being used as the benchmark to pass from the previous arc, not Cell despite the fact Cell most definitely would've been the stronger of the two after his Zenkai as he's already noticeable more powerful than Gohan's MSS form.

EMIYA

Jun 21 2016, 04:26 PM

ekrolo2

Jun 21 2016, 03:33 PM

I also think it should be pointed out that regeneration takes a toll on ones energy reserves and Cell had to regrow his entire body. Creating this situation where he gained a massive Zenkai but also probably lost a considerable amount of energy getting himself back together. Its entirely possible the Super Perfect Cell we see in the manga is one who isn't truly at his full power.

This is somewhat supported in the series itself when you remember its still Gohan being used as the benchmark to pass from the previous arc, not Cell despite the fact Cell most definitely would've been the stronger of the two after his Zenkai as he's already noticeable more powerful than Gohan's MSS form.

It's a pretty hard, very elastic stretch to try to say Cell wasn't a t full health. He was already within micrometers of death and was nothing short of luck that the one piece that needs to regenerate survived. Add in the fact that he not only gets his perfect form back, but gets powered up and attains Instantaneous Movement and there's little doubt he came back good and new.

Also while Cell's appearance directly takes note of Gohan's own SSJ2 form, what with the intense aura style and electricity, don't forget that this is not a transformation. So the amp for SSj2 Gohan isn't necessarily going to be the same amp that Cell's zenkai gives him.