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Is the end of DBZ still canon?; What do you guys/gals think?
Topic Started: Jun 20 2016, 05:15 PM (1,802 Views)
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I haven't seen much of Super, only BoG and RoF. If the end of Z is canon, then that would mean that BoG takes place 5 years after Buu, because Videl is pregnant and if I recall Pan was 5 by the End of Z. But wouldn't Krillins daughter look a tad bit older if this was 5 years later? And that would mean Goten is 12 and Trunks is 13, which doesn't surprise me because Goku looked like he was 5 years old when he was a teenager. But then again, in Trunks' timeline, I'm sure he was around 13-15 years old, and he looked older, Trunks in Super still looks young af. So, what do you guys think?
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If something clashes with the original manga, then the latter addition should be looked at to see if it's "canon" or not. I find the idea of DBZ being noncanon to DBZ honestly. DBS and GT are their own things and if they clash with eoz, that doesn't invalidate DBZ's material.

That said, there is no official canon in general.
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At this point they're going to have to either say the whole BoG RoF and Super stuff is just a side story, or they're going to have to do a complete retelling of the EoZ.

Because as of right now, Super is a complete contradiction to Eoz. And no, nobody has gone on record to say they're retelling EoZ, so it isn't a "retcon"
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Actually guys he might be on to something. Isn't Pan like 4 by EoZ? And she was born a year after Buu's defeat, 9 years prior to EoZ.
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BoG starts four years after the Buu Saga. The rest of Dragon Ball Super is about a year after that so we're five years in and that makes Goten 11 and Trunks 12. Bulma says to Goku "We haven't seen each other for four years." That statement can still be accurate since we're only five years away from the End of Z. So there's no reason it can't be canon.
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It's always going to be "canon" to me. Toriyama could retcon, and I'd still consider it the true ending. Everything released after the end of Dragon Ball Z is just a fun little side story as far as I'm concerned.
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To be perfectly honest, we don't actually see anything in Super that could be considered non-canon when you compare it to the end of the manga series.

We don't see Goku transform into a Super Saiyan at the end of the series, therefore Super Saiyan Blue and everything that goes with it could still apply to that... at least, for now. ;)
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The only thing I see changing is maybe adding Beerus and Whis into the background.
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The only thing I see changing is maybe adding Beerus and Whis into the background.
Why would they need to be?
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I wouldn't be shocked if Super did its own version of it. Really, Goku's fought so many guys above Boo's level (and he's above that level too now) that it just seems off that he'd be excited for Oob with all the new material in-place.
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The ending was already retconned in a tiny way when Toriyama added the Kinto'un to the part where Goku and Oob fly away.
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Jun 22 2016, 04:28 PM
I wouldn't be shocked if Super did its own version of it. Really, Goku's fought so many guys above Boo's level (and he's above that level too now) that it just seems off that he'd be excited for Oob with all the new material in-place.
Which would be a shame considering Oob had a lot of potential.
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Jun 22 2016, 04:38 PM
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I wouldn't be shocked if Super did its own version of it. Really, Goku's fought so many guys above Boo's level (and he's above that level too now) that it just seems off that he'd be excited for Oob with all the new material in-place.
Which would be a shame considering Oob had a lot of potential.
Yea, but I feel that they trashed his potential in GT with Goku still being the one that everyone looked to as the savior.

Perhaps Pan will be the one to take up Goku's mantle in the new material.
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