EMIYA

Jun 20 2016, 08:34 PM

Goku was never afraid of fighting Super Boo, he was already on Kid Boo's level who was stronger than Boohan!

Goku just wanted to fuse with Vegeta because it would be fun. I mean you got the Potaras, you going to not use them? Of course not, let me get you a very rare, often unused quote from Goku.

Vegeta: No way Kakarot! There's no way I'll fuse with you.

Goku: Oh come on Vegeta! If we use these, we'll fuse for all time. It'll be just like having sex...but forever... "

Goku9000

Jun 20 2016, 09:03 PM

Damn, this thread exploded with replies. I didn't think this thread would get too much attention lol.

Pyrus

Jun 20 2016, 09:15 PM

Goku9000

Jun 20 2016, 09:03 PM

Damn, this thread exploded with replies. I didn't think this thread would get too much attention lol.

You arrived during a small boom period for Pure Boo and SS3 Goku threads, otherwise it's pretty unanimous where they fall into the Z power scope.

KidBuu55

Jun 20 2016, 10:53 PM

Pyrus

Jun 20 2016, 09:15 PM

Goku9000

Jun 20 2016, 09:03 PM

Damn, this thread exploded with replies. I didn't think this thread would get too much attention lol.

You arrived during a small boom period for Pure Boo and SS3 Goku threads, otherwise it's pretty unanimous where they fall into the Z power scope.

Clearly at the the top.

If Toriyama and his staff cane out tomorrow with the conversation that they had about Pure Buu and Goku at the end of Dragonball, he would say what I have been telling you.

Goku was always stronger, for the sake of storytelling, he played Goku's strength down until the end and finally has Goku beat the strongest enemy.

I pointed out Piccolo's multiple comments about his lack faith in Gotenks power.

I pointed out how Goku was heavily surpressed fighting Buu

I pointed the comparisons made between Gotenks and Goku

I provided author statements, guidebooks statements

I provided a clear and consistent story that matches up with all the media -GT, Super, Movies, games, guidebooks - you name it.

Goku is CLEARLY WAYYYY above Vegeta and Fat Buu, we see how large this game was when Vegeta fights Pure Buu, getting KO'd in 2 hits. But this isn't even known until the end of the story.

We see the original Fat Buu (so says the manga) get RECKED by Kid Buu.

We have Goku question if Vegeta's plan was to bring Gohan AND Gotenks to help them fight Buu.

We have the plot playing out like it always does at the end of every saga in DB

It's to the point now that people will just ignore the truth because they don't like the story Toriyama wrote.

Quote:

 

Chapter: 506 (DBZ 312), P12.4-5
Context: after Goku and Vegeta revert Boo back to regular evil Boo
Goku: “Hehhe~~eh! With this, Boo’s power should have fallen significantly! We’re almost there! See, see: the size of his ki is completely different than before!”
Vegeta: “Alright! Let’s blast out of here and escape!”
Goku: “Wait! Even though Boo has returned to normal a whole lot, we’re still simply no match for his strength! If we go outside like this, we’ll definitely be done in…!”

Quote:

 

Chapter: 503 (DBZ 309), P8.8
Context: Goku tries to get Vegeta to use the Potara with him, but Vegeta refuses
Goku: “Knowing you, I thought you might say that…! There ain’t any other way to beat Majin Boo!”

Quote:

 

Chapter: 501 (DBZ 307), P5.5
Context: Elder Kaioshin warning Goku about recklessly going to rescue Gohan from Gotenks-absorbed Boo
Elder Kaioshin: “I hate to say it, but I don’t think you could win against this current Majin Boo even if the two of you went at him together…”

KidBuu55

Jun 20 2016, 10:53 PM

Pyrus

Jun 20 2016, 09:15 PM

Goku9000

Jun 20 2016, 09:03 PM

Damn, this thread exploded with replies. I didn't think this thread would get too much attention lol.

You arrived during a small boom period for Pure Boo and SS3 Goku threads, otherwise it's pretty unanimous where they fall into the Z power scope.

Clearly at the the top.

If Toriyama and his staff cane out tomorrow with the conversation that they had about Pure Buu and Goku at the end of Dragonball, he would say what I have been telling you.

Goku was always stronger, for the sake of storytelling, he played Goku's strength down until the end and finally has Goku beat the strongest enemy.

I pointed out Piccolo's multiple comments about his lack faith in Gotenks power.

I pointed out how Goku was heavily surpressed fighting Buu

I pointed the comparisons made between Gotenks and Goku

I provided author statements, guidebooks statements

I provided a clear and consistent story that matches up with all the media -GT, Super, Movies, games, guidebooks - you name it.

Goku is CLEARLY WAYYYY above Vegeta and Fat Buu, we see how large this game was when Vegeta fights Pure Buu, getting KO'd in 2 hits. But this isn't even known until the end of the story.

We see the original Fat Buu (so says the manga) get RECKED by Kid Buu.

We have Goku question if Vegeta's plan was to bring Gohan AND Gotenks to help them fight Buu.

We have the plot playing out like it always does at the end of every saga in DB

It's to the point now that people will just ignore the truth because they don't like the story Toriyama wrote.

lazerbem

Jun 20 2016, 11:29 PM

To be frank, even if Toriyama said it, so what? He's said he doesn't care about continuity and he forgot that SSJ3 even existed. At best it would just result in a debate of pre-retcon vs post-retcon

lazerbem

Jun 20 2016, 11:29 PM

To be frank, even if Toriyama said it, so what? He's said he doesn't care about continuity and he forgot that SSJ2 even existed. At best it would just result in a debate of pre-retcon vs post-retcon

Saberoph

Jun 21 2016, 07:32 AM

However, fail logic like the Anime will be used to argue against this and I wouldn't even be surprised if the video games are used by this point to argue the same thing, despite the fact the games are even less accurate than the Anime when it comes to power placement.