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Why was Goku so confident?
Topic Started: Jun 16 2016, 03:43 PM (7,601 Views)
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Nagito Komaeda
Jun 19 2016, 07:48 PM
If he's strong enough to fight Boo from the inside, why would he try blowing a whole in Boo and escaping in the first place? Why not just defeat him and then take it from there?

Vegeta was willing to fight Evil Boo? Where? And I have no idea why you're bringing up Fat Boo, he's entirely irrelevant power-wise and he still tooled Vegeta.

It is a new form. Why would he say it's the birth of the 'strongest Majin' as if it's a different form when it's exactly the same as before?


I don't know and I don't care to speculate. Goku says he'll fight Buu from inside of him (which is actually contrary to what you stated) and goes on to challenge Buu.

And Again, Vegeta who lost to Fat Buu, is willing to fight Evil Buu. He was afraid to fight Kid Buu.

And one more time: Evil Buu - Gotenks absorbed is his actual name because he's actually EVIL BUU and not a new form, using the power of Gotenks. This was actually explained to you MONTHS AGO, and you agreed!

http://dbzf.co.uk/single/?p=9299724&t=8565296

Oddly enough, that person does NOT agree with me on Kid Buu being the strongest.

breaker335
Jun 19 2016, 07:49 PM
Where is it shown that Kid Buu is the strongest form of Buu? I want to see lines from the manga, no anime. And please don't post any bull like Old Kai said he was the most dangerous. Dangerous =/= strongest.


Where is it shown? You means besides requiring the largest Spirit Bomb in the universe, or besides Goku (and the Kaioshin) stating that he was hope and besides Vegeta saying NO ONE (after he himself stated that he can't beat Buu) can beat Buu but Goku?

Yeah, all those lines exist.

There is also Goku's statement that Buu would have killed everyone if he lost, going on to state if Buu returned he would train to beat him in a FIGHT.
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I'll ask again, KidBuu55 since you dodged the first time.

Where do you place SSJ2 Vegeta in relation to Super Boo, Gohan, and SSJ3 Gotenks? Or even just SSJ Gotenks.
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I'm with you, Kidbuu. These despicable left-wing socialists are attempting to usurp your position and establish their vision of a new world order as part of a conspiracy that dates back to this site's inception. They sicken me.
EMIYA
Jun 18 2016, 08:35 PM
We've been through this with him. This isn't the first topic we've had to deal with him and unfortunately it may not even be the last. But this is something he set up himself and did so purposely, It's that's refusal to to accept when he's wrong even though we've basically plastered the facts right on here multiple times, combined with the holier than thou attitude and even lying at points, makes me have no respect. It's that cherry picking of the series to help his own case but gladly ignoring the others even when its brought up multiple times.

It's very clear to me that this guy only wants to bring up what fits his agenda and as usual, the moment he gets unbanned he starts the same thing. It wasn't here either, This started in other topics as well. Almost any time Goku or Kid Boo (mostly the former) got brought up, it somehow ended with "Goku is the strongest" and no matter how many legitimate sources we'd bring, they'd be ignored completely.

It's exactly likely trying to debate a fundamentalist. It doesn't matter what you bring, it doesn't matter if you bring them straight physical evidence. As long as it doesn't fit their agenda, they don't care and they'll gladly lie, twist and be hypocritical to get what they want.

You sick man. I used to respect you. But I'm afraid you'll have to go through me now.

I wish we could meet face to face so that you could see this mirror I have in my hand. In fact, let's pretend you're right here. Do you see this mirror I hold? I pulled it from my bathroom wall as I don't carry around a mirror myself, so I hope you pay close attention. Everything you've just said, I can reflect back at you. Your refusal to accept when you're wrong is made even more comical by the fact that you back yourself up with a number of yes-men, as is plainly evident to the eyes of the unbiased who view this thread (read: myself). You fight your insecurities by seeking out validation from like-minded individuals, but don't think you can live life linking things that make you feel good in a rosary. I can't, in particular.
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Jun 19 2016, 04:12 PM
KidBuu55
Jun 17 2016, 04:35 PM
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These contradict the manga.

Why don't you expand on that? It's very convenient when you provide this so-called 'hard evidence' and then state your hypothesis matter-of-factly and expect everyone to bend to your will because you spoke with a confident tone. Go back to school, chump.
Nagito Komaeda
Jun 19 2016, 07:48 PM
If he's strong enough to fight Boo from the inside, why would he try blowing a whole in Boo and escaping in the first place? Why not just defeat him and then take it from there?

Vegeta was willing to fight Evil Boo? Where? And I have no idea why you're bringing up Fat Boo, he's entirely irrelevant power-wise and he still tooled Vegeta.

It is a new form. Why would he say it's the birth of the 'strongest Majin' as if it's a different form when it's exactly the same as before?

The reason is clear as day, scum. You're going to say, "Oh dear me, how can it possibly be clear as day if I can't see it?" For one thing, you're clearly blind. Secondly, I for one would not risk exposing myself to digestive fluids. Moreover, the notion that a minuscule warrior can defeat Boo from the inside as you suggest is laughable. He's so tiny. Clearly destroying such a creature as Boo from the inside is hardly feasible considering his immense regenerative capabilities.

It is not a new form. Clearly Boo's statement at that point in time was not to be taken at face value; verily, if he was not stronger before but then became the strongest after a minor change, the strongest Majin is indeed born in that Boo's power has been reborn, in the same form. No? Get a clue.
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This thread made me regurgitate 6 of my organs.
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Izanagi!

You don't care to speculate because it doesn't make sense, right?

Are you suggesting that Evil Boo and Fat Boo are close in power? Otherwise, Vegeta has no relevance whatsoever.

From almost three months ago? Shocker, people can change their minds.

Largest Spirit Bomb in the Universe? That's cool and all, but it was never said that a smaller Spirit Bomb could take Evil Boo out, so that statement is pointless.

Vegeta said that when everyone else was dead. Also don't know why you're bringing up the fact that he couldn't beat Pure Boo again.

Yeah, that still works if Evil Boo > Pure Boo.
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I can guarantee that at least 3 of them were your brain.

Edit: Don't you dare ninja me, fool. You're no shinobi.
Edited by Kyouks, Jun 19 2016, 08:10 PM.
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Kyouks
Jun 19 2016, 08:09 PM
I can guarantee that at least 3 of them were your brain.
Yeah, I have 5 brains. I'm part of the superior race. Unfortunately I only have 2 now, which is still 7 less than KidBuu55.
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Kyouks
Jun 19 2016, 08:09 PM
I can guarantee that at least 3 of them were your brain.

Edit: Don't you dare ninja me, fool. You're no shinobi.
You can't control me, 'ttebayo!

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Man kyo always makes me laugh when he tries.
Too freaking good.
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 19 2016, 08:04 PM
I'll ask again, KidBuu55 since you dodged the first time.

Where do you place SSJ2 Vegeta in relation to Super Boo, Gohan, and SSJ3 Gotenks? Or even just SSJ Gotenks.
I'm thinking his chart looks something like this:

SSJ2 Vegeta: 200
SSJ3 Gotenks: 400
Gohan: 600
SSJ3 Goku: 800
Fat Boo: 400
Super Boo: 400
Bootenks: 800
Ultimate Boo: 1,000
Pure Boo: 800
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Lazuli
Jun 19 2016, 08:15 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 19 2016, 08:04 PM
I'll ask again, KidBuu55 since you dodged the first time.

Where do you place SSJ2 Vegeta in relation to Super Boo, Gohan, and SSJ3 Gotenks? Or even just SSJ Gotenks.
I'm thinking his chart looks something like this:

SSJ2 Vegeta: 200
SSJ3 Gotenks: 400
Gohan: 600
SSJ3 Goku: 800
Fat Boo: 400
Super Boo: 400
Bootenks: 800
Ultimate Boo: 1,000
Pure Boo: 800
If he has SSJ2 Vegeta over any form of post-RoSaT Gotenks or SSJ pre then his cover is blown.

Edit: Good God I just noticed Boohan only 2.5x Fatboi
Edited by Slifer, Jun 19 2016, 08:18 PM.
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I dig hashbrowns, but you're too hostile, sir. I suggest you calm down and eat an inferior french fry to remember that you are above those and above this.
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Kyouks
Jun 19 2016, 08:18 PM
I dig hashbrowns, but you're too hostile, sir. I suggest you calm down and eat an inferior french fry to remember that you are above those and above this.
1v1 me on Rust and you'll see hostile.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

I swear if I didn't know you Kyouks.... :)


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And Again, Vegeta who lost to Fat Buu, is willing to fight Evil Buu. He was afraid to fight Kid Buu.


Anyways, just for the sake of things I want to focus on this little quote and again reply...what? Vegeta was rarin' to go against Kid Boo. Both he and Goku thought Kid Boo was a chump and we're glad he changed into this compared to Super Boo or as previously shown, Buff Boo. Even on the Kaioshin planet, Vegeta was ready to duke it out with Boo, got into a game with Goku just so he could fight him. It's established that Vegeta for some reason despite seeing SSj3 Goku and boo fight, underestimated Kid Boo and didn't realize just how powerful he'd be.

He was far more willing to fight Kid boo than he ever did with Super Boo.

@ Lazuli

That chart wouldn't be able to work because he's already trying to use the anime lines about Kid boo being the strongest, which by that should put him above any Boo, Ultimate Boo included.
Edited by EMIYA, Jun 19 2016, 08:32 PM.
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Nagito Komaeda
Jun 19 2016, 08:09 PM
You don't care to speculate because it doesn't make sense, right?







No, I don't care because it isn't relevant.

Your claim: Goku wasn't willing to fight Evil Buu
Truth: Goku was going to fight Evil Buu.

No amount of twisting will change that.

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Are you suggesting that Evil Boo and Fat Boo are close in power? Otherwise, Vegeta has no relevance whatsoever.


Irrelevant. We all know and agree that Vegeta was weaker than Evil Buu, but he was still willing to fight him. Vegeta was also weaker than Kid Buu and was NOT willing to fight him, admitting outright inferiority.

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From almost three months ago? Shocker, people can change their minds.


Do as you please, but don't pretend you weren't told of this before.

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Largest Spirit Bomb in the Universe? That's cool and all, but it was never said that a smaller Spirit Bomb could take Evil Boo out, so that statement is pointless.

Well, we know a smaller one wouldn't work - we are told that twice.

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Vegeta said that when everyone else was dead. Also don't know why you're bringing up the fact that he couldn't beat Pure Boo again.

Irrelevant, he himself was dead too. He also states that Buu returning would be the end of the world - Goku agrees stating that they should train so they don't lose to Buu 1vs1. Again, if Gohan could easily dispatch Buu - why would it be the end of the world?

Oh, and before you make up something about blowing up planets, Goku specifically states that WORST CASE SCENARIO is a FIGHT with BUU. Also, Vegeta doesn't know Instant Transmission, so I don't know what HE can do that Gohan cannot.

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Yeah, that still works if Evil Boo > Pure Boo.

LOL, no. It's impossible.
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