KidBuu55

Jun 19 2016, 11:00 PM

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 10:52 PM

I think we can all agree on how contradicting the anime is when it comes to who is the strongest Boo, but the manga is crystal clear on which Boo is the strongest through many statements. No matter how much you try to counter it, it won't work. You haven't provided us with a single contradicting statement and that's what the bottomline is. How you decide to deal with it is your prerogative, but you should deal with the consequences of your choice.

I did. I provided you with Goku clearly stating that Buu would/could kill everyone. That Goku was so impressed by Buu's power that he wants to FIGHT HIM 10 years later.

That Goku is called the strongest in the universe.

All of that is in the manga.

Clearin

Jun 19 2016, 11:04 PM

Goku looks pretty willing to fight Boo if you ask me /s

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 10:56 PM

I honestly don't care anymore. I'm not proven wrong in any of those posts of yours, what you see is an illusion created by you to maintain your story. Obviously it's impossible for us to prove you wrong because you won't see it. Any normal human being would concede or at least consider the possiblity that they were wrong, but not you. You continue to dig your own grave with the spade you provided yourself with.

Anyway, I see when I've lost an already losing battle. I am not giving in to your crazy theory, I am just giving up on YOU.

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 11:06 PM

KidBuu55

Jun 19 2016, 11:00 PM

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 10:52 PM

I think we can all agree on how contradicting the anime is when it comes to who is the strongest Boo, but the manga is crystal clear on which Boo is the strongest through many statements. No matter how much you try to counter it, it won't work. You haven't provided us with a single contradicting statement and that's what the bottomline is. How you decide to deal with it is your prerogative, but you should deal with the consequences of your choice.

I did. I provided you with Goku clearly stating that Buu would/could kill everyone. That Goku was so impressed by Buu's power that he wants to FIGHT HIM 10 years later.

That Goku is called the strongest in the universe.

All of that is in the manga.

One last reply:

Pure Boo could and would and did kill everyone. Goku being impressed doesn't mean Pure Boo is stronger than Super Boo. Going by that logic, Krillin is stronger than everybody when he fight Piccolo because Piccolo was "impressed".

Goku is called the greatest in the universe. For the 100th time, greatest doesn't mean strongest. This is such fallible logic I'm not even gonna address it.

NOPE! Try again!

Quote:

 

Chapter: 12, P2.4
Gyuumao: “Your grampa was Lord Muten Roshi’s #1 disciple, and I was #2! Man, that takes me back!”

Quote:

 

Chapter: 452 (DBZ 258), P3.1-2
Vegeta: “Hmph…Seems Babidi is really panicking, if you, his #1 man are already making your appearance…”
Dabra: “Hmph…Let’s end the pointless blather there and have all of you come at me, at once.”

Quote:

 

Chapter: 33, P12.1
Fat Oorin Temple guy: “Hehhehheh! Still, [Kuririn] ain’t any real opponent for Oorin Temple’s #1 to fight.”
Goku: “That guy isn’t anything special. You can take him down in one shot.”

Quote:

 

Chapter: 405 (DBZ 211), P12.1
Piccolo: “Don’t forget…! Even if his power is #1, he’s still a kid…!”

Hit

Jun 19 2016, 11:19 PM

Are you saying Pure Boo is the absolute strongest, or are you just saying he's stronger than base Evil Boo?

KidBuu55

Jun 19 2016, 11:10 PM

1. You were wrong in every post you made. Literally every single one, which is why I went line by line to correct you. Now you're just being stubborn and rude because you don't want to accept it.

So, I'll ask again - in which specific rebuttal did you find my response incorrect?

2. You DO care, because this is the second time in this SAME THREAD you have stated that you would no longer "bother to argue" (paraphrased) and left, only to return and like everyone else's comments and then drop your own .02 cents in.

3. I cannot see in the infinite universe how you are correct on this matter. It's impossible for me to believe that Toriyama couldn't just suddenly make Goku stronger for the last arc, with the simple explanation of "I was holding back"

It's impossible for me to believe that EVERYONE who worked on Dragonball, from the movie writes, to the editors to, Toriyama's staff and helpers - to Toriyama himself, are in some VAST CONSPIRACY to not admit that Goku was one of the weakest in Dragonball.

It's impossible - and I'll say it again - IMPOSSIBLE for me to reconcile all the statements from the interviews, the guidebooks, the anime and even Dragonball Super with the ending you describe.

I can't do it, and I won't. Sorry, I just don't see any merit to your point of view, and I absolutely believe that you know it's the wrong conclusion...but because of your dislike for me, you can't even admit that.

Clearin

Jun 19 2016, 11:04 PM

Goku looks pretty willing to fight Boo if you ask me /s

Pyrus

Jun 19 2016, 11:20 PM

Hit

Jun 19 2016, 11:19 PM

Are you saying Pure Boo is the absolute strongest, or are you just saying he's stronger than base Evil Boo?

But that doesn't work when taking the anime and the manga into consideration, unless you're being selective about which version of the anime to use (original or Kai), which in itself is a little cheesy.

KidBuu55

Jun 19 2016, 11:16 PM

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 11:06 PM

KidBuu55

Jun 19 2016, 11:00 PM

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 10:52 PM

I think we can all agree on how contradicting the anime is when it comes to who is the strongest Boo, but the manga is crystal clear on which Boo is the strongest through many statements. No matter how much you try to counter it, it won't work. You haven't provided us with a single contradicting statement and that's what the bottomline is. How you decide to deal with it is your prerogative, but you should deal with the consequences of your choice.

I did. I provided you with Goku clearly stating that Buu would/could kill everyone. That Goku was so impressed by Buu's power that he wants to FIGHT HIM 10 years later.

That Goku is called the strongest in the universe.

All of that is in the manga.

One last reply:

Pure Boo could and would and did kill everyone. Goku being impressed doesn't mean Pure Boo is stronger than Super Boo. Going by that logic, Krillin is stronger than everybody when he fight Piccolo because Piccolo was "impressed".

Goku is called the greatest in the universe. For the 100th time, greatest doesn't mean strongest. This is such fallible logic I'm not even gonna address it.

NOPE! Try again!

You are WRONG. I correct you on this MANY times over - it's STRONGEST.



His literal quote according to my friend sitting next to me says "Do your best Kakarot, YOU are number 1!" With the emphasis on YOU.

It's the SAME QUOTE he says in the anime and it's also the title of the episode.

http://www.kanzenshuu.com/episode/kai/majin-buu/

Dragon Ball Kai Episode 152Air Date: 10 May 2015
頑張れカカロット！お前がＮｏ．１だ！！
Ganbare Kakarotto! Omae ga Nanbā Wan da!!
Do Your Best, Kakarrot!
You Are No. 1!!

Hit

Jun 19 2016, 11:19 PM

Are you saying Pure Boo is the absolute strongest, or are you just saying he's stronger than base Evil Boo?

Pyrus

Jun 19 2016, 11:20 PM

Hit

Jun 19 2016, 11:19 PM

Are you saying Pure Boo is the absolute strongest, or are you just saying he's stronger than base Evil Boo?

But that doesn't work when taking the anime and the manga into consideration, unless you're being selective about which version of the anime to use (original or Kai), which in itself is a little cheesy.

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 11:21 PM

KidBuu55

Jun 19 2016, 11:10 PM

1. You were wrong in every post you made. Literally every single one, which is why I went line by line to correct you. Now you're just being stubborn and rude because you don't want to accept it.

So, I'll ask again - in which specific rebuttal did you find my response incorrect?

2. You DO care, because this is the second time in this SAME THREAD you have stated that you would no longer "bother to argue" (paraphrased) and left, only to return and like everyone else's comments and then drop your own .02 cents in.

3. I cannot see in the infinite universe how you are correct on this matter. It's impossible for me to believe that Toriyama couldn't just suddenly make Goku stronger for the last arc, with the simple explanation of "I was holding back"

It's impossible for me to believe that EVERYONE who worked on Dragonball, from the movie writes, to the editors to, Toriyama's staff and helpers - to Toriyama himself, are in some VAST CONSPIRACY to not admit that Goku was one of the weakest in Dragonball.

It's impossible - and I'll say it again - IMPOSSIBLE for me to reconcile all the statements from the interviews, the guidebooks, the anime and even Dragonball Super with the ending you describe.

I can't do it, and I won't. Sorry, I just don't see any merit to your point of view, and I absolutely believe that you know it's the wrong conclusion...but because of your dislike for me, you can't even admit that.

1. I think everybody else has proven to you that you are wrong though, with statements you refuse to listen to. I guess we're both stubborn then, huh?

2. I'll give you this, I do care. I can't help myself. On this you are right, which is the only time you'll be right, and I am wrong.

3. If Toriyama did that, he's making the entire arc completely irrelevant. He's been lying to his readers and wasting their time.

But there is nothing outright stating Pure Boo is the strongest Boo. When people say Goku is the strongest character in the manga, after the manga is done, I must draw the conclusion that they are talking about End of manga Goku and not Boo arc Goku.

This isn't about you though, this is about the manga being clear on who's the strongest Boo. Duress is the reason I don't think Goku was lying about Super Boo and wanted to use fusion to beat him. Goku lied about not being able to beat Fat Boo and not after that.

You can pull any excuse you like and believe it, doesn't change the fact that the manga told us that Super Boo is the strongest non-absorbed Boo.

Nagito Komaeda

Jun 19 2016, 11:22 PM

Out of curiosity, when Goku's talking about Pure Boo being the strongest of all the other Boos in the Anime, aren't images of Bootenks and Boohan shown?

Hit

Jun 19 2016, 11:22 PM

Pyrus

Jun 19 2016, 11:20 PM

Hit

Jun 19 2016, 11:19 PM

Are you saying Pure Boo is the absolute strongest, or are you just saying he's stronger than base Evil Boo?

But that doesn't work when taking the anime and the manga into consideration, unless you're being selective about which version of the anime to use (original or Kai), which in itself is a little cheesy.

that's why im asking him. the anime infers that pure boo is the absolute strongest majin, but the manga does not.

Emmeth

Jun 19 2016, 11:22 PM

[But that would imply Goku is stronger than Gotenks-Boo and Gohan-Boo too. AND Vegetto.

Do you not see the fallible logic in that?