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Gogeta vs Buuhan
Topic Started: Jun 16 2016, 12:51 PM (1,298 Views)
breaker335 Jun 16 2016, 03:36 PM Post #16
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 03:35 PM
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In fact, he was tanking all of his hits.


If tanking = getting knocked around and gritting teeth then yeah.

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but the same thing could be said for when Vegeta went up against Beerus and we all know how well that turned out.


Difference is we know Beerus was holding back power. Nothing suggests Janemba was.
Who's to say he wasn't toying with him? Most of the fight he was laughing his a*** off like a madman. Not to mention that disturbing smile.
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Slifer Jun 16 2016, 03:40 PM Post #17
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breaker335
Jun 16 2016, 03:36 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 03:35 PM
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In fact, he was tanking all of his hits.


If tanking = getting knocked around and gritting teeth then yeah.

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but the same thing could be said for when Vegeta went up against Beerus and we all know how well that turned out.


Difference is we know Beerus was holding back power. Nothing suggests Janemba was.
Who's to say he wasn't toying with him? Most of the fight he was laughing his a*** off like a madman. Not to mention that disturbing smile.
Nothing suggests he was.

Kid Boo was laughing like a maniac during he and SSJ3 Goku's fight. Doesn't mean he was holding back. It's just who he is. Janemba, like him, seems to be a somewhat mindless, primitive freak.
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breaker335 Jun 16 2016, 03:44 PM Post #18
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 03:40 PM
breaker335
Jun 16 2016, 03:36 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 03:35 PM
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In fact, he was tanking all of his hits.


If tanking = getting knocked around and gritting teeth then yeah.

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but the same thing could be said for when Vegeta went up against Beerus and we all know how well that turned out.


Difference is we know Beerus was holding back power. Nothing suggests Janemba was.
Who's to say he wasn't toying with him? Most of the fight he was laughing his a*** off like a madman. Not to mention that disturbing smile.
Nothing suggests he was.

Kid Boo was laughing like a maniac during he and SSJ3 Goku's fight. Doesn't mean he was holding back. It's just who he is. Janemba, like him, seems to be a somewhat mindless, primitive freak.
Throughout the whole fight though no significant damage was done to him. He was tossing Goku and Vegeta around like rag dolls.
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Slifer Jun 16 2016, 03:46 PM Post #19
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Jun 16 2016, 03:44 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 03:40 PM
breaker335
Jun 16 2016, 03:36 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 03:35 PM
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In fact, he was tanking all of his hits.


If tanking = getting knocked around and gritting teeth then yeah.

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but the same thing could be said for when Vegeta went up against Beerus and we all know how well that turned out.


Difference is we know Beerus was holding back power. Nothing suggests Janemba was.
Who's to say he wasn't toying with him? Most of the fight he was laughing his a*** off like a madman. Not to mention that disturbing smile.
Nothing suggests he was.

Kid Boo was laughing like a maniac during he and SSJ3 Goku's fight. Doesn't mean he was holding back. It's just who he is. Janemba, like him, seems to be a somewhat mindless, primitive freak.
Throughout the whole fight though no significant damage was done to him. He was tossing Goku and Vegeta around like rag dolls.
Significant damage doesn't matter. SSJ3 Goku's hits were causing Janemba clear discomfort. That doesn't happen if you're worlds above the person hitting you unless you're heavily suppressed, which again, nothing suggests Janemba was.

Janemba could easily do what he did with a 2x gap, and that'd still put him laughably weaker than Super Boo. There's no reason to make him that strong.
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Notaka Jun 16 2016, 04:25 PM Post #20
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 Janemba was strong enough that they considered using a fusion to beat him.
He did also power-up against SSJ Gogeta, hinting that he (probably) was holding back against Goku and Vegeta.
I place Janemba somewhere around Super Buu, probably a bit weaker. and I'd place SSJ Gogeta around Ultimate Gohan's level.

on topic, I think Gogeta can win this with SSJ3. his SSJ2 would give a helluva fight to Buuhan.
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+ Pyrus Jun 16 2016, 04:34 PM Post #21
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 Not using non-canon items, Gogeta gets beat here after he puts up a mildly entertaining fight.
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Saberoph Jun 17 2016, 12:11 AM Post #22
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 I have SSJ3 Gogeta rivaling Ultimate Gohan the way SSJ3 Gotenks rivaled Super Boo. I have Gogeta stronger than Gohan, but only slightly and his limited time would prevent him from doing any real damage.

In other words, I have Ultimate Boo winning with ease here. I don't even think Gogeta gets to pull off a Genkai Dama before his Fusion runs out, but even if time wasn't a factor I don't see Gogeta winning this.
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KidBuu55 Jun 17 2016, 12:35 AM Post #23
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Considering that Gogeta was originally going to be used as a plot device against Evil Buu - Gohan absorbed, I'd say Gogeta is enough as a SSJ to clean his clock, especially considering Vegetto was multifolds above him.
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+ Pyrus Jun 17 2016, 02:53 AM Post #24
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 I don't know if the original plan has much bearing on the final product.
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KidBuu55 Jun 17 2016, 03:17 AM Post #25
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I don't know if the original plan has much bearing on the final product.
I don't see why not. Considering Goku was above Evil Buu before, I can't see him Gogeta needing anything more than basic SSJ to surpass any form of Buu, especially since by this time Toriyama was moving away from SSJ forms.
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+ Six Trails Jun 17 2016, 03:23 AM Post #26
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Jun 17 2016, 02:53 AM
I don't know if the original plan has much bearing on the final product.
Exactly. It's like arguing that Gohan actually is the main character in the Boo arc since that's what Toriyama's original plans were.
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KidBuu55 Jun 17 2016, 03:42 AM Post #27
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Jun 17 2016, 02:53 AM
I don't know if the original plan has much bearing on the final product.
Exactly. It's like arguing that Gohan actually is the main character in the Boo arc since that's what Toriyama's original plans were.
That's not true though, he stated that he didn't think Gohan was fit for the role. He expanded on this recently by saying he knew this when he was drawing Gohan as a normal person, that he didn't want Gohan to be the lead.

But I kinda understand where you're going.
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+ miguelnuva Jun 19 2016, 07:06 AM Post #28
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 I have SSJ2 Gogeta moping Buu's clock. I've already stated the reasons why.
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Goku9000 Jun 20 2016, 02:39 AM Post #29
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 Gotenks got hell of a boost after fusing, Pre Rosat Ssj Gotenks was >= to Ssj3 Goku. I think Ssj2 Gogeta would be enough to beat Buuhan, hell even Super Gogeta could probably beat him. They only have 30 mins though so they would have to finish Buu quickly, if they could. Again, this is all my opinion and I'm sure a lot of you disagree with me, I would like to see some replies to this because you guys can probably disprove everything I just said.
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+ miguelnuva Jun 20 2016, 04:15 AM Post #30
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 SSJ Vegito was shocked he was beating Buu so I say he was estimating his strength off SSJ Gogeta.
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