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Gogeta vs Buuhan
Topic Started: Jun 16 2016, 12:51 PM (1,295 Views)
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If Goku and Vegeta had time to do the Fusion Dance, would they have won?
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I have SSJ3 Gogeta between Bootenks and Boohan, so no.
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Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 01:06 PM
I have SSJ3 Gogeta between Bootenks and Boohan, so no.
Why do you say that?
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Jun 16 2016, 01:12 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 01:06 PM
I have SSJ3 Gogeta between Bootenks and Boohan, so no.
Why do you say that?
Because I have the adults roughly 2x Trunks and Goten, so SSJ3 Gogeta 2x SSJ3 Gotenks. Since Bootenks is around 2x SSJ3 Gotenks, that would put SSJ3 Gogeta in the same area, maybe slightly higher.
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Jun 16 2016, 01:14 PM
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Jun 16 2016, 01:12 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 16 2016, 01:06 PM
I have SSJ3 Gogeta between Bootenks and Boohan, so no.
Why do you say that?
Because I have the adults roughly 2x Trunks and Goten, so SSJ3 Gogeta 2x SSJ3 Gotenks. Since Bootenks is around 2x SSJ3 Gotenks, that would put SSJ3 Gogeta in the same area, maybe slightly higher.
Fusion is also a multiplier and Gotenks was able to close the gap so much after ROSAT, and they're just kids. Goku and Vegeta are far more powerful than them.
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If we go the by Gotenks RoSaT gain logic, then Base Gogeta alone likely ends up stronger than Boohan, much less SSJ3 which is absurd.

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Goku and Vegeta are far more powerful than them.


2x is a very large gap.
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Yeah, if we apply Gotenks' increases to Gogeta when talking about the gap between the kids and the adults, Base Gogeta would be waaaa~aaaaaay stronger than Base Vegetto. In regards to that, I like to think that the fusion multiplier for Gotenks increased because Goten and Trunks became more skilled at fusing and, as a result, the boost increased.

Anyhow, I agree with Hashbrowns. I normally place SSJ3 Gogeta between Bootenks and Boohan, so ol' 'Geta isn't winning this one.
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I don't believe in Multipliers, outside the original SSJ transformation, they really don't exist in the context ofbthe story.

But Gogeta needs SSJ to win this - he's just that extreme.
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I don't think Gogeta stands a chance; even with Super Saiyan 3. At best I see him beating Ultimate Gohan, but that's it.
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I would say people are low balling Gogeta, but it's not really my place to say cause outside of canon, we have little to go off of him besides the movie and even then he lasted for about a couple minutes. But for argument sake, might as well go off of that. If my alternate timeline theory is correct, Fusion Reborn takes place in a timeline where Vegeta successfully killed Buu with his Final Explosion. Now I'd rank Janepa around Fat Buu since I'm pretty sure he's just a rehash of him since they have the same personality. Now Super Janemba is about Super Buu level and Gogeta made quick work of him, much better than Gohan. So I'd place SSJ Gogeta well above both Super Buu and Gohan and above Buutenks. At least that's how I see it.

Now for Buuhan, my memory's a bit fuzzy on the difference between Potara and Metamoran fusions besides the no time limit thing so gonna need a quick refresher if someone wouldn't mind?
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Now Super Janemba is about Super Buu level


I wouldn't go with this considering SSJ3 Goku was giving Super Janemba a fight before he started warping, and SSJ3 Goku is an ant to Super Boo.
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He would have to go all the way to Super Saiyan 3 to be able to beat him. I'd say his base and Super Saiyan would be far too weak and I'd say his Super Saiyan 2 would be around Vegeto's base form. So Gogeta would have to go Super Saiyan 3 to win in my opinion.
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Now Super Janemba is about Super Buu level


I wouldn't go with this considering SSJ3 Goku was giving Super Janemba a fight before he started warping, and SSJ3 Goku is an ant to Super Boo.
Rewatched the fight and Janemba didn't look like he was taking any significant damage. In fact, he was tanking all of his hits. Sure Janemba got staggered a bit but the same thing could be said for when Vegeta went up against Beerus and we all know how well that turned out.
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I think SSJ Gogeta would be a very close match in power, though Ultimate Boo would win out in his abilities and absurd regenerative abilities. SSJ2 Gogeta and above would be dishing out a stomp in much the same way SSJ Vegetto would.

Why? Because SSJ Goten and Trunks are in the area of #16 - Semi-Perfect Cell, for me, while SSJ Goku and Vegeta are quite beyond that. Also, Old Kai makes it very clear that the reason Vegetto is so powerful is less to do with the potara earrings, and more to do with the two that fused. I don't see why Gogeta wouldn't have whatever special quality he's talking about, even if the effect isn't quite as great.
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In fact, he was tanking all of his hits.


If tanking = getting knocked around and gritting teeth then yeah.

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but the same thing could be said for when Vegeta went up against Beerus and we all know how well that turned out.


Difference is we know Beerus was holding back power. Nothing suggests Janemba was.
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