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| Is There A Way to Justify Dabra>Super Perfect Cell? | |
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| EMIYA | Jun 15 2016, 01:38 AM Post #31 |
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Would it even work like that though? You'd think using Super Saiyan 2 would actually be more beneficial for Gohan in such a case. He'd be taking less damage from Dabura which means less energy going to Majin Boo. Of course it becomes strange when its implied that the combination of SSJ2 Goku and Majin Vegeta are both giving Boo energy. When in fact, the amount of damage Goku takes should be the only thing giving energy to Boo. It was that implication that these majin warriors are special and the damage they give to their respective opponents ultimately leads to energy to Boo. Instead Goku vs Vegeta implies it's both of them giving energy. You might as well have Dabura just beat up on some minions or have a little tussle with Pui Pui and Yakon if Babidi wants some energy. |
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| lazerbem | Jun 15 2016, 01:51 AM Post #32 |
 
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Babidi's dumber than a bag of rocks, I doubt he thought of that |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 15 2016, 02:58 AM Post #33 |
 
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Going Super Saiyan 2 and instantly vaporizing Dabura would be a lot more effective than fighting to a standstill with him. Yeast Kaioshin's fear of a sudden energy jolt reviving Boo would ultimately be in vain, since he'd wake up with a power lower enough for Goku, Vegeta, and probably even Gohan to obliterate. |
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| + Ryebrid | Jun 15 2016, 03:15 AM Post #34 |
 
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IIRC there is a statement made by Gohan/Kibito suggesting all of his power wasn't restored at the Budokai? |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 15 2016, 03:27 AM Post #35 |
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Chapter: 445 (DBZ 251), P8.1 Context: as Kibito revives Gohan Kibito: “Um…! He still hasn’t reached full power…This is bottomless power…At any rate, to think that there would be a human who moved with such gigantic, pure energy…This is why they wanted it…" However, that was during the healing process, which continued after that. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 15 2016, 03:36 AM Post #36 |
 
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Then you get the fail logic Funimation Dub having Gohan state that he's now stronger from that...so bad. It does make you wonder if all of Gohan's power was restored or not. |
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| Fearless Saiyajin | Jun 15 2016, 04:05 AM Post #37 |
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Nothing, even part of the Daizenshuu said Gohan was SSJ which makes Dabura on that level since he struggled alot. |
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| + Ryebrid | Jun 15 2016, 05:18 AM Post #38 |
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Well it seems it was more a statement attesting to how big his ki is. I couldn't imagine a weakened, weak Gohan standing up to the likes of Dabura. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 15 2016, 06:52 AM Post #39 |
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Well I don't mean he's only running at 50%, but more like 85-90% so for the most part I believe Dabra got the best from Gohan, but I believe Gohan would've been winning his fight had he eaten a Senzu instead. |
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| KidBuu55 | Jun 15 2016, 03:28 PM Post #40 |
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No it doesn't. You're speaking about the page on Gohan's transformations, which states SSJ2 was seen at the TB. But Daubra's actual bio say he fought SSJ2 Gohan, it says it again in the anime guides. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 15 2016, 05:08 PM Post #41 |
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Even if Gohan was a SSJ2, he wasn't anywhere near as strong as SPC. Why would Goku specify Gohan needing to access his anger if Gohan was using his full power during his battle with Dabra? |
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| + Clearin | Jun 15 2016, 05:16 PM Post #42 |
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Dabura was just so badly skilled and slow that despite his huge power it allowed SSj/2 Gohan to put up a fight against him 
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| KidBuu55 | Jun 15 2016, 05:33 PM Post #43 |
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If Gohan as a SSJ2 was stronger than Cell (and we know this) And weaker Gohan is fighting an enemy that is about as strong as that same Cell (as stated by Goku) Goku tells Gohan to get mad like he was back then (when he fought Cell) - power up and beat Dabura. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 15 2016, 06:04 PM Post #44 |
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There was basically no difference in power between Cell and Gohan. Gohan had the advantage, but he admits himself that Cell was a lot stronger than he thought and his previous confidence disappears. Piccolo claims that Majin Vegeta may be stronger than Gohan was during the fight against Cell, basically telling us that the gap between the two isn't that large. Given the fact that Vegeta was willing to give his mind to Babidi in order to get to that level of power, it makes sense that he'd be a decent amount weaker, right? Yet, Vegeta seems to be under the impression that he'd dismantle Dabra easily. Chapter: 455 (DBZ 261), P10.5-6 Context: as Gohan fights Dabra Vegeta: “Damn it…this is pissing me off! Alright, I’ll finish this!” Goku: “Don’t, Vegeta! Let [Gohan] do it. It ain’t like he’s completely losing.” Goku supports Vegeta's ability to win alone, and instead focuses on letting Gohan win himself. So, in summation; Majin Vegeta/Goku aren't that much stronger than CG Gohan A glimpse at Goku's SSJ2 scared Vegeta into going to Babidi for more power Vegeta was more than confident in his ability to take out Dabra quickly (something that Goku supported as well) Gohan was losing against Dabra |
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| + Pyrus | Jun 15 2016, 06:44 PM Post #45 |
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Piccolo is stupid and unreliable in the Boo arc, didn't you know? |
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