At this point, I think we all would prefer GT over Super

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At this point, I think we all would prefer GT over Super
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SSJSC	Jun 10 2016, 02:11 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Who here thinks GT is better than Super now? Super saiyan God or blue still sounds like a dumb idea to me. Plus, the fights in GT were actually a tad better than the fights in super. And it was also an excellent conceptual sequel to Z despite it being so bad and poorly executed. Having the dragon balls turn on the saiyans sounds cooler than having the saiyans turn into gods to fight 12 different universal races or gods of destruction. I may not like GT, but you know what, the ideas and stuff were actually there. Now, if the anime department could actually edit some things, we might have a good sequel to Z. The depressing music, wacky Frieza arc-like graphics, and the power levels/transformations of the Z fighters all could have been better. And nonetheless, GT's ending opened the doorway to a potential dragon ball AF show, which is what I liked (ignoring everyone being dead by then). Bringing in a copy Vegeta and evil Goku shows that Toriyama didn't have a clue what to do with dragon super at this point; they would make great villains in AF or anything post-GT for sure.



+ Clearin	Jun 10 2016, 02:14 AM Post #2
Posts: 12,580 Group: Elite Member Member #6,372 Joined: June 18, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country United Kingdom	They're both pretty bad, but I guess Super has at least kept me watching for 47+ episodes, while when I tried to watch GT recently I got to episode 8 or 9 and just gave up because it was boring me.



+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 10 2016, 03:19 AM Post #3
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	To be fair, Super airs once every week, so it's not much of a bother to keep up with it. I'm currently watching all the episodes of Super to prepare for episode 47, and I'm at episode 7 right now. I haven't been annoyed to the point of dropping it yet, but I'm sort of a passive observer right now. At least with GT, I was engaged until folks like Zunama popped up. I will say there are aspects of both series I enjoy and dislike, but GT's atmosphere was more evocative of Dragon Ball Z I feel. Dragon Ball Super is just a little too goofy. There needs to be a proper balance of comedy and a grit. Super far too often cuts away to comedic moments during what are supposed to be intense scenes, completely souring the mood. Take Goku's battle with Jelly Vegeta for example. Vegeta can't stand the thought of losing to Goku, even if that person losing to Goku is a mere copy. Vegeta rooting for the copy would be funny, if it weren't for the fact that Vegeta's life is on the line. The stark contrast between the gag-like nature of Vegeta's actions and the fact that Vegeta is literally going to die if Goku doesn't win just creates a confusing atmosphere. Edited by ThePrinceOfSaiyans, Jun 10 2016, 03:19 AM.
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Darker	Jun 10 2016, 01:25 PM Post #4
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,358 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	GT all the way. The only parts I've actually enjoyed from Super are the Magetta/Vegeta and Goku/Hit fights. There are tons of things I really liked about GT.
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+ ThePrinceOfSaiyans	Jun 10 2016, 05:11 PM Post #5
魔王子 Posts: 9,797 Group: Elite Member Member #10,492 Joined: November 16, 2013 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball Z What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Ok, so I took it upon myself to rate every episode up to this point and as a whole the series rounds up to about 3 out of 5 as things stand right now. Honestly, that's not too bad. It's about where I'd place GT to be honest. I'll have to wait and see whether or not the Future Trunks arc improves things or not. If it does, I might have to say Super is better.
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KidBuu55	Jun 12 2016, 09:05 PM Post #6
Posts: 665 Group: Probation Member #13,002 Joined: March 24, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	GT is terrible, I much prefer Super.



FutureSaiyan	Jun 13 2016, 02:15 AM Post #7
Posts: 924 Group: Member Member #11,997 Joined: January 18, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime Dragonball Z, Naruto, Bleach, AoT, Death Note, FMAB Favourite Manga DBZ	GT had better pacing, the rate Goku and Vegeta became so powerful that even their base was significantly stronger than any other Z fighter was too quick. And the animation in DBS is terrible, everyone looks younger and skinnier, which is the opposite of what you want from older and stronger characters. GT also had more of a DBZ feel to it, similar tone. DBS will hopefully pick up now though, with the future Trunks arc



Scotty_Rogers	Jun 13 2016, 02:33 AM Post #8
Your Boy Scotty Posts: 718 Group: Member Member #12,887 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States What Browser do you use? Google Chrome.	They're both garbage but I'd say Super is the better one tbh
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EMIYA	Jun 13 2016, 02:57 AM Post #9
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	GT eventually got good, or at the very least, interesting. Most agree that once the Baby Arc came around, things in GT started kicking up. So at worse, that's around 16 episodes of GT being kind of slow and even then there are some enjoyable parts of the Black Star Dragon ball Arc. Compared that to movie rehash 2 arcs which have lasted around twice as long. The Battle of Gods Arc was considered at best, average and the Resurrection F. Arc was considered even by fans of Super to be a horrible mess. Quite honestly, I don't think any Arc in GT got as bad as that one did. If there was anything that brought Super down, it was that Arc for sure. The U6 Arc general thought was that it was better than Freeza, perhaps better than Battle of Gods as well, but not necessarily worth the hype it was given. And now we're finally on the Evil Goku Arc which surprisingly from what I've gathered seems to have started off rather well. You could compare the 4 arcs of each one together. --- --- Battle of Gods vs Black Star Dragon Ball. Battle of Gods suffered under too much of poor animation and the fact that it was already retelling what was already considered by many to be a good movie. This is where all the stuff around Goku starts getting out of hand. The Black Star Dragon Ball Arc seems more dull than it is actually bad. ... ... Resurrection F. vs Baby Arc. There is no competition here. I'm not going to act like the Baby Arc didn't have problems. But it was far and away better than what we got in Super for Freeza. I didn't think the movie version was all that great, but to take something like that and make it worse is just awful. Just like I said, this was easily Super weakest part while the Baby Arc was arguably GT's strongest. ... ... U6 Tournament vs Super 17. This is probably the one that Super does win against. Although its in a rather different way. I think it can be said that the Super 17 Arc was GT's weakest. It had an unoriginal character and was practically a rehash of Movie 12. At the same time though, it was short, running for only about 7 episodes I believe and still had some nice fights. Because of this shortness, it didn't have the same negative effect as the Freeza Arc in Super, and it kind of vanished while the latter lingered painfully on. ... So now we are on the, supposed, final arc of Super. Evil Goku Arc vs Evil Dragon Arc. It's all up to Super to see how this one goes. The last Arc in GT is I believe widely considered to be at least the second best, some may even argue the best. It's definitely the most original I feel. Some say that the Arc started off a bit slow but definitely got better until the end when it was quite solid. Plus its widely agreed that the ending of GT is considered one of the best of the entire series. Super's Arc seems to have started off strong, but we'll see if it lasts. If it's willing to actually take notes of Goku's interactions and all that stuff we want, it may push it to victory. But we'll have to see what happens.



SSJSC	Jun 16 2016, 12:36 PM Post #10
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	EMIYA Jun 13 2016, 02:57 AM GT eventually got good, or at the very least, interesting. Most agree that once the Baby Arc came around, things in GT started kicking up. So at worse, that's around 16 episodes of GT being kind of slow and even then there are some enjoyable parts of the Black Star Dragon ball Arc. Compared that to movie rehash 2 arcs which have lasted around twice as long. The Battle of Gods Arc was considered at best, average and the Resurrection F. Arc was considered even by fans of Super to be a horrible mess. Quite honestly, I don't think any Arc in GT got as bad as that one did. If there was anything that brought Super down, it was that Arc for sure. The U6 Arc general thought was that it was better than Freeza, perhaps better than Battle of Gods as well, but not necessarily worth the hype it was given. And now we're finally on the Evil Goku Arc which surprisingly from what I've gathered seems to have started off rather well. You could compare the 4 arcs of each one together. --- --- Battle of Gods vs Black Star Dragon Ball. Battle of Gods suffered under too much of poor animation and the fact that it was already retelling what was already considered by many to be a good movie. This is where all the stuff around Goku starts getting out of hand. The Black Star Dragon Ball Arc seems more dull than it is actually bad. ... ... Resurrection F. vs Baby Arc. There is no competition here. I'm not going to act like the Baby Arc didn't have problems. But it was far and away better than what we got in Super for Freeza. I didn't think the movie version was all that great, but to take something like that and make it worse is just awful. Just like I said, this was easily Super weakest part while the Baby Arc was arguably GT's strongest. ... ... U6 Tournament vs Super 17. This is probably the one that Super does win against. Although its in a rather different way. I think it can be said that the Super 17 Arc was GT's weakest. It had an unoriginal character and was practically a rehash of Movie 12. At the same time though, it was short, running for only about 7 episodes I believe and still had some nice fights. Because of this shortness, it didn't have the same negative effect as the Freeza Arc in Super, and it kind of vanished while the latter lingered painfully on. ... So now we are on the, supposed, final arc of Super. Evil Goku Arc vs Evil Dragon Arc. It's all up to Super to see how this one goes. The last Arc in GT is I believe widely considered to be at least the second best, some may even argue the best. It's definitely the most original I feel. Some say that the Arc started off a bit slow but definitely got better until the end when it was quite solid. Plus its widely agreed that the ending of GT is considered one of the best of the entire series. Super's Arc seems to have started off strong, but we'll see if it lasts. If it's willing to actually take notes of Goku's interactions and all that stuff we want, it may push it to victory. But we'll have to see what happens. Ignoring the saiyans dead because they're old, it even opened the door to a potential DBAF show, right? I predicted that by the time Goku turned himself in for shenron, son Goku and regular Vegeta would have became the main characters for anything past GT. But I also don't like how they killed off the saiyans because they're 80 or 90 years old, especially Pan. 80-90 is pretty damn young for a saiyan. They can fight until like what, 500? Edited by SSJSC, Jun 16 2016, 12:44 PM.



Skywalker	Jun 18 2016, 04:21 PM Post #11
Posts: 779 Group: Member Member #5,634 Joined: January 18, 2011 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood, Gurren Lagann, DB/Z/Super, Naruto What Browser do you use? Chrome	Not at all, I'm still enjoying Super more than I ever did GT.



Omega Z	Jun 18 2016, 05:56 PM Post #12
Destroyer of Hopes and Dreams Posts: 226 Group: Member Member #12,213 Joined: April 3, 2015 Gender Male Country Canada Favourite Anime One Punch Man / HunterXHunter / My Hero Academia What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball / One Piece / Berserk	Everyone's got different opinions yo. I think that GT is boring garage, and the only thing I enjoy about it are the concepts of some of the characters. I prefer Super because I actually enjoy it sometimes, much more than I can say for GT, but that's just me I guess. EDIT: Also forgot that the to say that design for SS4 Goku is pretty cool, but I think that goes without saying. Edited by Omega Z, Jun 18 2016, 06:00 PM.
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SSJSC	Jun 23 2016, 02:35 AM Post #13
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	I actually think that SSJGOD was a bit of a dumb concept, to be honest.



RealSociedad	Jun 23 2016, 09:26 AM Post #14
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Nope, I absolutely disagree. At GT is was the Goku show. Everything was only about Goku. In DBS at least Vegeta, Beerus and Whis also play a big role.



Goku9000	Jun 23 2016, 03:41 PM Post #15
Posts: 416 Group: Member Member #13,229 Joined: May 27, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ, Tokyo Ghoul, Highschool of the dead, Elfen lied, Deadman wonderland. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	I haven't seen much of Super, I've only watched BoG and RoF, I'm just waiting for the english dub. I actually liked BoG, a lot of people were disappointed but I actually enjoyed it. RoF was f*ing ridiculous though, and I'm going to point out my opinions as to why it sucked - 1. Frieza treated his soldiers like s, why would they want that guy back? 2. The Z-warriors had slight difficulties fighting Frieza's soldiers, by this point Krillin should be able to obliterate them all on his own. And who the hell was that red guy who was fighting 1v1 with Piccolo and giving him a lot of trouble? 3. Bringing Frieza back in the first place was stupid, and then giving him this new transformation? SMH GT had a whole lot of s as well, so here is my opinion - BoG>>>>>GT>RoF Edited by Goku9000**, Jun 23 2016, 03:45 PM.



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