Freeza was 15,000 times stronger than anyone else at his introduction

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Freeza was 15,000 times stronger than anyone else at his introduction
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+ Pelador	Jun 6 2016, 01:09 AM Post #1
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	Assuming Freeza's maximum power level was 120 million, that means he was about 15,000 times stronger than any other character when we first meet him during the Namek Saga. No wonder Krillin and Gohan pissed their pants at the sight of him. Even if Goku and Vegeta turned into SSJ Gods and then used Potara earrings, they probably still couldn't match that. I don't think I recall another Shonen villain being that far ahead of the protagonists. It's crazy to think about. And then even crazier, Goku only takes seven days to surpass him. Goku got over 15,000 times stronger in one week.
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Thiln	Jun 6 2016, 01:34 AM Post #2
Posts: 2,481 Group: Member Member #12,166 Joined: March 23, 2015 Gender Male Favourite Anime Dragon Ball, Attack on Titan What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Hokuto no Ken, Berserk, Dragon Ball, Rurouni Kenshin, Attack on Titan, Kuroshitsuji	It would have been much more believable for the group to survive through their wits, experience, and prowess as martial artists. Rather than have them quivering in their boots thinking they're was nothing they could do, everything should have been done to try and attack at whatever weak points they could exploit using their techniques - be that through the Kienzan, going for his eyes, or even going for some internal type of damage. These characters are supposed to be expert fighters, correct? Toriyama could have taken inspiration from Fist of the North Star in that respect.



Dankness Lava	Jun 6 2016, 01:42 AM Post #3
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Pelador Jun 6 2016, 01:09 AM Even if Goku and Vegeta turned into SSJ Gods and then used Potara earrings, they probably still couldn't match that. No way, that would put them at low tier Boo Saga levels at least. And I think I'm not giving those techniques nearly enough credit by saying that.



+ Pyrus	Jun 6 2016, 01:46 AM Post #4
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	I find it perplexing that there are some people that make excuses for Freeza being 15,000 times stronger than anyone else at one point, but they're the same ones that have such a problem with bloated numbers in the Boo arc ("grrarrg Gotenks CAN'T be 100x stronger than Goku it izzz prepostrus!!").
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Dankness Lava	Jun 6 2016, 02:49 AM Post #5
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Pyrus Jun 6 2016, 01:46 AM I find it perplexing that there are some people that make excuses for Freeza being 15,000 times stronger than anyone else at one point, but they're the same ones that have such a problem with bloated numbers in the Boo arc ("grrarrg Gotenks CAN'T be 100x stronger than Goku it izzz prepostrus!!"). A possible reason for that is the power discrepancy.



breaker335	Jun 6 2016, 02:55 AM Post #6
Posts: 879 Group: Member Member #13,278 Joined: June 5, 2016 Gender Male Country United States	Why are we still using numerical value when even they've become unreliable post-Frieza Saga?



Dankness Lava	Jun 6 2016, 02:58 AM Post #7
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	breaker335 Jun 6 2016, 02:55 AM Why are we still using numerical value when even they've become unreliable post-Frieza Saga? Let's see. We're discussing Namek/Freeza Saga power level related stuff. You say power levels are unreliable after Freeza Saga. There's your answer.



+ Pyrus	Jun 6 2016, 03:08 AM Post #8
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	Darkness Flame Jun 6 2016, 02:49 AM Pyrus Jun 6 2016, 01:46 AM I find it perplexing that there are some people that make excuses for Freeza being 15,000 times stronger than anyone else at one point, but they're the same ones that have such a problem with bloated numbers in the Boo arc ("grrarrg Gotenks CAN'T be 100x stronger than Goku it izzz prepostrus!!"). A possible reason for that is the power discrepancy. Good sir, elaborate?
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Dankness Lava	Jun 6 2016, 03:14 AM Post #9
Dankness Forever Posts: 6,348 Group: Tha Dankness Member #9,197 Joined: March 16, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime Hajime no Ippo What Browser do you use? Chrome Favourite Manga One Piece	Pyrus Jun 6 2016, 03:08 AM Darkness Flame Jun 6 2016, 02:49 AM Pyrus Jun 6 2016, 01:46 AM I find it perplexing that there are some people that make excuses for Freeza being 15,000 times stronger than anyone else at one point, but they're the same ones that have such a problem with bloated numbers in the Boo arc ("grrarrg Gotenks CAN'T be 100x stronger than Goku it izzz prepostrus!!"). A possible reason for that is the power discrepancy. Good sir, elaborate? Well in the Freeza Saga, destroying planets was still very notable an achievement. Come Boo Saga, it was beyond expected for anyone who was a powerhouse. Considering that, the credibility of huge power gaps is more in the air because it would make sense for them to be a major threat to the planet if they are fighting seriously. Hell, this is a problem as early as late Android Saga.



superperfectnerd	Jun 7 2016, 01:13 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,709 Group: Member Member #11,519 Joined: July 15, 2014	Huge gaps nearer the start of the series is less perplexing because the heroes have never trained anywhere other than Earth against humans (which in hindsight was good for technique but child's play in terms of difficulty). Once they started training with gods, immense gravity and getting almost killed by the strongest guys in the universe, it made more sense for their power to sky-rocket because they were being properly challenged for the first time. The following sagas everything slowed down and Goku seemed to hit his limit in the ROSAT, then even with dead body Otherworld training his ssj2 was only a little stronger than Gohan's had been 7 years ago. Then Gotenks apparently far surpasses Goku's ssj2 in base form, gets a 400 times boost for ssj3 and Gohan becomes even stronger than that. It kind of makes Goku, Vegeta and Piccolo laughable.



+ miguelnuva	Jun 30 2016, 03:50 AM Post #11
Posts: 4,068 Group: Elite Member Member #8,291 Joined: September 16, 2012 Favourite Anime DragonBall Z What Browser do you use? FireFox Favourite Manga Sailor Moon	SSJG Raditz fight Goku could handle Frieza as for fusion if Goku and Vegeta did potara in the saiyan arc I have them beating Frieza.
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