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Goku VS Goku
Topic Started: Jun 4 2016, 07:24 PM (564 Views)
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The Lord of the Dark

-Equal PLs
-Kid Goku (King Piccolo Saga) VS Adult Goku (Saiyan Saga)

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Saiyan-arc Goku has vastly more experience, techniques, and a higher fighting IQ than his younger counterpart. This is a stomp.
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I'm not so sure. It's true Saiyan arc Goku has more experience and techniques. However, the way child/teen Goku was portrayed gave everyone around him the impression that he was unstoppable. His durability and resistance were amazing. Moreover, that is the era when the hand to hand elements of fighting were explored in more depth compared to DBZ. Then there's child/teen Goku's smaller and more difficult to hit size to consider. Frankly, if it weren't for things like the Kaioken, Spirit Bomb, Kami's clarity training, I might have said that King Piccolo arc Goku could win this.
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Jun 4 2016, 07:31 PM
Frankly, if it weren't for things like the Kaioken, Spirit Bomb, Kami's clarity training, I might have said that King Piccolo arc Goku could win this.
So take away almost everything that makes Saiyan-arc Goku Saiyan-arc Goku?

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Jun 4 2016, 08:11 PM
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Jun 4 2016, 07:31 PM
Frankly, if it weren't for things like the Kaioken, Spirit Bomb, Kami's clarity training, I might have said that King Piccolo arc Goku could win this.
So take away almost everything that makes Saiyan-arc Goku Saiyan-arc Goku?

...What are you talking about? He's saying that the way they are portrayed, it's a close fight with db Goku having the advantage due to how he's potrayed but those three things tip the scales back to Saiyan saga Goku's favor.
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Jun 4 2016, 08:13 PM
Mr. Hashbrowns
Jun 4 2016, 08:11 PM
Thiln
Jun 4 2016, 07:31 PM
Frankly, if it weren't for things like the Kaioken, Spirit Bomb, Kami's clarity training, I might have said that King Piccolo arc Goku could win this.
So take away almost everything that makes Saiyan-arc Goku Saiyan-arc Goku?

...What are you talking about? He's saying that the way they are portrayed, it's a close fight with db Goku having the advantage due to how he's potrayed but those three things tip the scales back to Saiyan saga Goku's favor.
Exactly, which makes how they're portrayed pointless because all adult Goku has to do is bust a brief kaioken x2 and bye bye lil G. Not to mention the factor of kid Goku not even being able to fly.

This would be a better match if kid Goku is given a slight power advantage, flight, and kaioken disallowed for adult Goku.

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Right all Goku needs to do is use Kaiokens and he'll seize the victory. But besides that he has more experience and more skills.
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Saiyan arc Goku wins.

He's far more intelligent, has better and more techniques and is more skillful.

Also, something to note:Spirit bomb wouldn't work on Kid Goku.
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Um, Spirit Bomb takes 3 episodes to charge & 2 episodes to fire.

Besides, it wont work against Kid Goku who has "pure heart".

Basically, Spirit Bomb is invalid in this fight

I think I've said this Teen Nakamaboy vs Kid Goku thread

Kid Goku is by FAR most dangerous form of Goku as he shows no symphathy against his opponents (looking at Silver, White, Yellow, Black, RRA merchants, Daimoi & his minions), shows superior counter-attack strategies (KHH against Jackie Chun own at 21st TB, 8 arms move vs Tien's 4 arms attack at 22nd TB) & showed once he's ticked, goes to any length to MAKE SURE the baddies pay for.

In short, it can be said that Kid Goku was the pinnacle of Goku's performance as fighter

All these are just examples portarying the mindset. Which is deciding/contributing factor in this kinda fights

Saiyan Arc Goku is great nonetheless. But his ability to gauge Nappa & Veggie's capability is nothing compared to his EoDB/23rd TB self where he has practically "mastered" everyone & everything.

Who doesnt hold a candle against an always "what's next"- driven Kid Goku who stops at nothing & anything

OP says equal PL. Dat too of Kid Goku of King Piccolo Arc (notorious for being absolute beast)

Except the flying part, I dont see why Kid Goku loses

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The only advantage Kid Goku has is the use of a tail as a weapon (which can also be a weakness at times)

Adult Goku will be a lot faster and more durable due to his experience in gravity training. And a CRAP TON more skilled. Goku's training with Popo taught him some of the more complicated fighting techniques, and then we have King Kai's training on top of that.
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