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| superperfectnerd | Jun 4 2016, 02:02 PM Post #106 |
 
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I don't get the argument that Boo wouldn't be arrived at all because there's not enough energy on Earth. Bobidi was trying to resurrect Boo for millennia, just because there's nobody to power the revival on Earth doesn't mean he'd just give up, he'd just take longer, hence him arriving when Trunks is an adult to revive Boo rather than when he was 8. He'd get the energy he needed from other planets or something.
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| + Son-Goku | Jun 4 2016, 05:25 PM Post #107 |
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I'm not sure if this is even the same Future Trunks that we had during the Cell Games. I think this is supposed to be the Trunks we have right now from the future. However I'd prefer to have the old one back. |
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| caryslan | Jun 4 2016, 10:19 PM Post #108 |
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I'm looking forward to the idea of a Black/Dark version of Goku. Mostly because I enjoyed the idea in other franchises like Kid Icarus/Smash with Dark Pit Plus, Black Goku has to be the same one that died of the Heart Virus. What caused him to snap? Was it watching all of his friends and son die at the hands of the Androids while he was powerless to help? All the while, powerful gods like the Supreme Kai, Beerus, Whis, and others existed who could have stopped the Androids at any time sat on their asses and watched innocent people die in a sick game played by the Androids. Hell, if he knew about Universe 6, Cabba, Frost, and Hit could have easily stopped the Androids as well. People can call this lazy all they want, I don't care. I love it when characters like Superman snap and fall to the darkness, even if its an attempt to fix a broken system. Gokui is one of the most moral characters in Dragon Ball. If an evil version of him exists, then what happened? The only way I would be unhappy with this is if they take the lazy way out. But if Black Goku turns out to be the same one who died from the Heart Virus and had to watch Earth devastated while almost everyone he cared for died, while the gods and powerful mortals like Hit, Frost, and Cabba did nothing, then we could have a good arc on out hands. Edited by caryslan, Jun 4 2016, 10:20 PM.
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| Norc Groose | Jun 5 2016, 12:16 AM Post #109 |
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The potential is definitely there, and I am somewhat hopeful. I don't really mind whoever takes down the villain here in the end, but the way some of you talk makes it seem like Goku takes down every villain. His record in Super is abysmal, and back in Z, he didn't win nearly as often as I originally thought. So, I don't really mind if Goku beats Yami Goku, and I actually think either he will beat Yami or it will be a team effort. Though, I would also like some character progression from Goku. I like Goku already, but the guy could really use some meaningful long-term development. This is the time to do so. As for others, I'd like to legitimately see Trunks, Gohan, and Piccolo play larger roles in this saga (especially Trunks) who did practically nothing after killing Frieza up until his final trip to his own time in the one saga he appeared in. I think it be pretty interesting to have Trunks or Vegeta (with Mai having some role in it) defeat Yami Goku. I'm just not sure if that will be the case. |
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| Saberoph | Jun 8 2016, 01:12 AM Post #110 |
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I don't know if anyone has heard this theory or not, but there's one that says this Black Goku isn't Goku at all and is just a demon taking of the form of Goku. I've also heard this theory that a demon forced Goku to Potara with him, and that's why he's evil. Not saying I agree with those, but has anyone heard those? |
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| Tinny | Jun 8 2016, 01:15 AM Post #111 |
 
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That's been referred to indirectly here already, taking about if it's really not Goku or such. That in specific I haven't heard but I wouldn't be surprised if it wasn't actually actually or wholly Goku. Spoiler: click to toggle
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| Saberoph | Jun 8 2016, 01:17 AM Post #112 |
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I hope that's not true, because that would be pretty cheap. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 8 2016, 01:20 AM Post #113 |
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I really hope that it's just Goku. That would mean that there's the potential for development there. If it's not Goku (or Goku being possessed/controlled), then that could happen to anyone, and Goku doesn't have to look at himself in the mirror at all. It'd be interesting to see a Goku that went far beyond what canon Goku has done. We saw in BoG that he wasn't above gaining power by having his friends help him, and that's a small step towards an evil act like stealing power from someone or forcing them to transfer it to him. |
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| Notaka | Jun 8 2016, 01:44 AM Post #114 |
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Stupid theory I have: I don't know if it's confirmed that Black Goku is from U6, but essentially: You know like U6 Saiyans are the opposite of U7's Saiyans ?(U6's saiyans are heroes who save planets, and U7 saiyans are evil-doers that wipe out planets), since Goku was evil when he was sent to earth, Black Goku must have been good, and was most likely sent to U6 earth(Perhaps to rid of the evil earth has ? I don't know.). Goku hit his head when he was a baby and he became a good guy, not to mention the fact he was raised by a kind-hearted man(Grandpa Gohan). Black Goku's story is the polar opposite of that; He hit his head and as a result became evil, and probably was raised by criminals. He is the reason why U6 earth is torn by war. Earthlings engaged in a war they could never hope to win; They waged war against a Saiyan. Now, for the reason why he is on future trunks' time, I have no clue. However, I also have a theory as to why: He feared champa would come for him. IIRC, Champa was absolutely shocked when he learned that the U6 Earth was a planet destroyed long ago by war. Thanks to Vados' powers, he learns that Black Goku was the reason behind this. Furious, He sought out to find him and make him pay for his actions. When Black Goku is informed of this, he tries to hide himself and escape. By using a machine or someones powers, he travels to the neighbouring universe; U7. However, he knows that champa would eventually find him, so he tries a different type of travel; A time travel which leads him into Trunks' era where he begins his reign of chaos. I know that this theory is full of holes, but knowing Toei I wouldn't be surprised if they actually made his backstory like this. |
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| Timothy | Jun 8 2016, 05:01 AM Post #115 |
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That's like saying borrowing money is a step to becoming a mugger. The slope aint that slippery |
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| Tinny | Jun 8 2016, 05:05 AM Post #116 |
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He also nearly killed them all after his power up had happened multiple times during that fight, especially that one time he decided he'd rather test out a technique that required killing countless people if he failed (twice in this case) then even attempt other ways of fighting (such as a grapple). It doesn't matter if that slope is slippery or covered in glue, he's leapt down it. Edited by Tinny, Jun 8 2016, 05:07 AM.
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| Timothy | Jun 8 2016, 07:13 AM Post #117 |
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If he were to attempt a grapple whos to say Beerus wouldn't have knocked his head off. He already grappled Beerus once in that fight its unlikely he wouldve been able to do it again. The whole purpose of that technique was to minimize collateral ffs. I swear if Toryama read some of this stuff on this website he'd probably die from laughter. I doubt any of us can tell a martial artists alien who can move at mftl speeds how to fight or what could've been the Better alternative. Regardless Goku had absolutely no malicous intent. That's whats being implied by Yall tbh. He's just a scatterbrain Edited by Timothy, Jun 8 2016, 07:15 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 8 2016, 07:44 AM Post #118 |
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It's still proof that he's willing to go against his principles to attain more power. And yeah, it's not like Goku was able to tell exactly where Beerus' punch was gonna go. No way he could've dodged it and grappled him while Beerus was still punching. How can Goku be fast enough to judge the trajectory of Beerus' punch and be able to counter with a punch that's exactly the same, but not fast enough to just dodge that punch and go in for a grapple? Edited by Yu Narukami, Jun 8 2016, 07:46 AM.
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| Timothy | Jun 8 2016, 08:52 AM Post #119 |
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Abandoning your principles=/= turning into a murderer Punching=/= grappling Sometimes you can find oppurtunities to grapple sometimes not. As someone who has sparred with grapplers its much easier to peic someone up and counter strikes than grapple It seems that ever since super came out the most active members on here have gone on a multi month long goku bash fest and pushing the notion that goku is evil smh Edited by Timothy, Jun 8 2016, 08:54 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Jun 8 2016, 10:13 AM Post #120 |
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Okay, grappling's one option. Why didn't he just dodge Beerus' punch and throw his own punch? He was desperate to try out his technique and threw away efficiency for it. |
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