SSB (God) Goku with Kaioken x10 vs SSJ4 Goku (GT)

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SSB (God) Goku with Kaioken x10 vs SSJ4 Goku (GT)
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SSJSC	May 28 2016, 06:39 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Who wins? Did Goku finally surpass his GT version by the time he was fighting Hit?



PocketGod	May 28 2016, 07:10 AM Post #2
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	Well....I have Bebi Saga SSJ4 Goku being twice as strong as Beerus so it depends, if we're being logical then yeah SSB KK Goku stomps, if we're going with Beerus is somehow still stronger resulting in a nerfed to hell SSB Goku then I'd say SSJ4 Goku stomps. Do with that what you will. Oh but if this is Shadow Dragon Saga Goku then yeah, he stomps regardless.
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RealSociedad	May 28 2016, 09:32 AM Post #3
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	He doesnt need kaoiken. Even his base form will do it. 10x KK SSJB Goku> SSJB Goku> base Goku> very surpressed Beerus> SSJ3 Vegito ~ SSJ4 Goku (baby saga). Edited by RealSociedad, May 28 2016, 09:32 AM.



Slifer	May 28 2016, 09:53 AM Post #4
Posts: 3,488 Group: Member Member #10,141 Joined: September 7, 2013	As above, Kaioken isn't necessary here. At the very least, SSJG Goku > SSJ3 Vegetto. SSJB is stronger than that by some amount, then stack x10 on top of that. Unless you have SSJ4 Goku worlds above Vegetto, he ain't touchin' Super's current God-tiers.



~~gokussj1000~~	May 28 2016, 10:14 AM Post #5
Posts: 422 Group: Suspended Member #12,740 Joined: November 4, 2015 Gender Male Country Australia Favourite Anime dragonball Favourite Manga same as anime	canon goku stomps Edited by gokussj1000, May 28 2016, 10:14 AM.



Notaka	May 28 2016, 10:24 AM Post #6
Always Wright Posts: 4,072 Group: Member Member #10,814 Joined: January 31, 2014 Country Algeria What Browser do you use? Waterfox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, JoJo no kimyou na bouken, One piece, currently reading Shaman King	SSJ4 Goku should be the one that needs KK x10, this is a hilarious stomp. Edited by Notaka, May 28 2016, 10:25 AM.
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+ Son-Goku	May 28 2016, 03:32 PM Post #7
孫悟空 Posts: 13,368 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	SSB Goku should crush with ease.
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Tinny	May 28 2016, 06:59 PM Post #8
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	If I may be blunt, this is a forgone thread. If you think Super is gonna win this, you've always thought this more likely than not, you probably thought this back at episode 12. If you don't think Super is gonna win, you probably also always thought that as well. But fine, if anything has changed, DBS has shown that apparently 1000 tons is allot for a post god ssj Vegeta to lift, Meanwhile in GT we have lifting cities. Also DBS ssjgssj Goku is conformed much slower than light (as opposed to the usual mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmftl) Ultimately, the answer is N/A however because of conflicting evidence from DBS. Edited by Tinny, May 28 2016, 07:00 PM.
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RealSociedad	May 28 2016, 07:33 PM Post #9
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Frieza lifted a whole mountain at namek? So whats the point? Besides if we look at the feats like you now, then GT is outclassed by a long shot. - God tier fighters have the power to destroy a universe - Whis has the speed to fly in 3 hours to another universe. - 10x SSJB showed speed faster then IT.



Tinny	May 28 2016, 07:39 PM Post #10
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	But not enough to lift 1000 tons But Hit has rather directly shown himself to be below light speed IT must be slow as Hell if it's gone from being instant to less than light speed, because even multiplying by ten you still fall write below light speed even when being rather generous with the distance. Like I said, conflicting evidence. I'm not saying there's no evidence, I'm saying they conflict with each other. DBS strength is a big question with no answer
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Timothy	May 29 2016, 04:03 AM Post #11
Posts: 754 Group: Member Member #12,620 Joined: September 5, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball,Z,Super,Naruto,Bleach,FMA,HunterXHunter and Hellsing What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Tinny May 28 2016, 07:39 PM But not enough to lift 1000 tons But Hit has rather directly shown himself to be below light speed IT must be slow as Hell if it's gone from being instant to less than light speed, because even multiplying by ten you still fall write below light speed even when being rather generous with the distance. Like I said, conflicting evidence. I'm not saying there's no evidence, I'm saying they conflict with each other. DBS strength is a big question with no answer Low end outlier and a screw up toyotaros part. Don't bother referencing the 40 ton incident because that was bukujutsu training. Goku takes this hard Initial ssg>ss3 vegito>ss3 vegito buu saga>>>>>>>>>>ssj vegito Ssj Post God>fp ssg>>> post zenkai ssg>>>>initial ssg Ssb>>>>>Ssj Ssbx10>>>>>>>ssb This is ignoring all training gains too. Fp Ssg even takes this Edited by Timothy, May 29 2016, 04:05 AM.



Tinny	May 29 2016, 04:13 AM Post #12
Posts: 6,061 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Timothy May 29 2016, 04:03 AM Tinny May 28 2016, 07:39 PM But not enough to lift 1000 tons But Hit has rather directly shown himself to be below light speed IT must be slow as Hell if it's gone from being instant to less than light speed, because even multiplying by ten you still fall write below light speed even when being rather generous with the distance. Like I said, conflicting evidence. I'm not saying there's no evidence, I'm saying they conflict with each other. DBS strength is a big question with no answer Low end outlier Or maybe the universe busting is high end, if we had a decent amount of feats regarding this we'd be able to tell. But we don't. Those two feats make up a significant portion of the clear indicators regarding their strength. Like I said, there's conflicting evidence to where you can interpret it any way you want, because no matter what you take in, you're gonna have to leave out a good portion of feats. This is the main point I try to make in these threads, DBS's strength at this point is a matter of opinion rather than analysis almost, though if anyone has a way to sort through all this I'm all ears, but no one's really provide a comprehensive guide of their strength yet. It would honestly be fascinating to see someone actually analyze DBS feats and manage to come up with a decent answer honestly. Edited by Tinny, May 29 2016, 04:13 AM.
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Timothy	May 29 2016, 05:01 AM Post #13
Posts: 754 Group: Member Member #12,620 Joined: September 5, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon Ball,Z,Super,Naruto,Bleach,FMA,HunterXHunter and Hellsing What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball	Tinny May 29 2016, 04:13 AM Timothy May 29 2016, 04:03 AM Tinny May 28 2016, 07:39 PM But not enough to lift 1000 tons But Hit has rather directly shown himself to be below light speed IT must be slow as Hell if it's gone from being instant to less than light speed, because even multiplying by ten you still fall write below light speed even when being rather generous with the distance. Like I said, conflicting evidence. I'm not saying there's no evidence, I'm saying they conflict with each other. DBS strength is a big question with no answer Low end outlier Or maybe the universe busting is high end, if we had a decent amount of feats regarding this we'd be able to tell. But we don't. Those two feats make up a significant portion of the clear indicators regarding their strength. Like I said, there's conflicting evidence to where you can interpret it any way you want, because no matter what you take in, you're gonna have to leave out a good portion of feats. This is the main point I try to make in these threads, DBS's strength at this point is a matter of opinion rather than analysis almost, though if anyone has a way to sort through all this I'm all ears, but no one's really provide a comprehensive guide of their strength yet. It would honestly be fascinating to see someone actually analyze DBS feats and manage to come up with a decent answer honestly. You've got too be joking. Youre implying they're not even city busters. Thats how low end it is smfh. Naw son universal has been repeatedly stressed.



+ Pyrus	May 29 2016, 06:50 AM Post #14
Posts: 39,342 Group: Legend Member #5,088 Joined: August 1, 2010 Gender Not Specified Country Chile	SS4 Goku from the Evil Dragon arc could win this, he could not. It's a matter of taking Super seriously, which is hard to do at the moment.
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+ Majin Vegeta	May 31 2016, 09:13 AM Post #15
The resident GT fan! Posts: 8,522 Group: Elite Member Member #9,206 Joined: March 17, 2013 Gender Male Country Greece Favourite Anime DragonBall/Z/GT, Code Geass,Attack on Titan, Death Note, Naruto What Browser do you use? Safari Favourite Manga DragonBall/Z, Naruto, Death Note, Yugioh!	RealSociedad May 28 2016, 07:33 PM Frieza lifted a whole mountain at namek? So whats the point? Besides if we look at the feats like you now, then GT is outclassed by a long shot. - God tier fighters have the power to destroy a universe - Whis has the speed to fly in 3 hours to another universe. - 10x SSJB showed speed faster then IT. Frieza lifting an island (that's how they described it) was filler though. Anyway even if we disregard feats and all that, I think SSJB Goku KK10x is stronger even in powerscalling, considering that SSJG Goku > SSJ3 Vegito and SSJB > SSJG as well as a 10x boost and more power (since Goku trained for the tournament) and I think Blueper Goku wins.
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