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SPC (KKx20) Runs the Super Boo Gauntlet
Topic Started: May 27 2016, 07:49 PM (1,580 Views)
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Mr. Hashbrowns
May 28 2016, 03:40 PM
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May 28 2016, 03:30 PM
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May 28 2016, 01:52 AM
Cell would need at least a million-fold Kaioken x10000 to even be somewhat competitive, in my opinion.
Think about what you're saying. Do you realize how much power that even is? That would make him so much more powerful than them.
Think about it.

SPC ~ SSJ2 Gohan

SSJ2 Goku is slightly stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, which means SSJ3 Goku is a little more than 4x Gohan.

SSJ Gotenks is heavily implied to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku with no contradictions whatsoever. Gotenks improves so much in the RoSaT that he goes from not having a chance in hell against initial Super Boo as a SSJ to possibly being able to manage something in Base. Him getting his a*** firmly handed to him doesn't negate Piccolo's initial impressions.

Stack a 400x Base-SSJ3 on top of that and having Super Boo over 1000x SPC isn't asking for much at all.
I disagree with a few points but he didn't say x1000 he said x10000 that's a way bigger number.
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May 28 2016, 03:47 PM
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May 28 2016, 03:40 PM
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May 28 2016, 03:30 PM
Mike
May 28 2016, 01:52 AM
Cell would need at least a million-fold Kaioken x10000 to even be somewhat competitive, in my opinion.
Think about what you're saying. Do you realize how much power that even is? That would make him so much more powerful than them.
Think about it.

SPC ~ SSJ2 Gohan

SSJ2 Goku is slightly stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, which means SSJ3 Goku is a little more than 4x Gohan.

SSJ Gotenks is heavily implied to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku with no contradictions whatsoever. Gotenks improves so much in the RoSaT that he goes from not having a chance in hell against initial Super Boo as a SSJ to possibly being able to manage something in Base. Him getting his a*** firmly handed to him doesn't negate Piccolo's initial impressions.

Stack a 400x Base-SSJ3 on top of that and having Super Boo over 1000x SPC isn't asking for much at all.
I disagree with a few points but he didn't say x1000 he said x10000 that's a way bigger number.
I don't have much issue with a 10,000x gap. It may be a tad excessive, but certainly not as ridiculous as a mere Kaioken x20 being enough for Cell to take Super Boo down.
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May 28 2016, 03:49 PM
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May 28 2016, 03:47 PM
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May 28 2016, 03:40 PM
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May 28 2016, 03:30 PM
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May 28 2016, 01:52 AM
Cell would need at least a million-fold Kaioken x10000 to even be somewhat competitive, in my opinion.
Think about what you're saying. Do you realize how much power that even is? That would make him so much more powerful than them.
Think about it.

SPC ~ SSJ2 Gohan

SSJ2 Goku is slightly stronger than SSJ2 Gohan, which means SSJ3 Goku is a little more than 4x Gohan.

SSJ Gotenks is heavily implied to be stronger than SSJ3 Goku with no contradictions whatsoever. Gotenks improves so much in the RoSaT that he goes from not having a chance in hell against initial Super Boo as a SSJ to possibly being able to manage something in Base. Him getting his a*** firmly handed to him doesn't negate Piccolo's initial impressions.

Stack a 400x Base-SSJ3 on top of that and having Super Boo over 1000x SPC isn't asking for much at all.
I disagree with a few points but he didn't say x1000 he said x10000 that's a way bigger number.
I don't have much issue with a 10,000x gap. It may be a tad excessive, but certainly not as ridiculous as a mere Kaioken x20 being enough for Cell to take Super Boo down.
I get how you would think that would be since you think SS Gotenks>SS3 Goku. But either way 10,000 is too much.
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I get how you would think that would be since you think SS Gotenks>SS3 Goku.


Why wouldn't I think that?

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But either way 10,000 is too much.


And 20x isn't too little?
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May 28 2016, 03:54 PM
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I get how you would think that would be since you think SS Gotenks>SS3 Goku.


Why wouldn't I think that?

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But either way 10,000 is too much.


And 20x isn't too little?
Not saying you wouldn't have a different opinion than that.

Compared to regular Super Buu I think it's pretty close to accurate.
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Not saying you wouldn't have a different opinion than that.


I'm asking why I should think otherwise. What logic is there in saying SSJ3 Goku > SSJ Gotenks when literally nothing supports it and everything goes against it?
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I think even 1,000,000x is possible.

Gotenks becomes many times higher than his Super-Saiyan in the RoSaT, so he becomes at-least more than 50x more powerful. On-top of that different power-ups (I don't use official stuff).
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May 28 2016, 04:19 PM

(I don't use official stuff).
Nor do I. Much prefer a 5x SSJ2 multiplier which bloats the already-massive gap even more.
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I think a 100-fold KK is the minimum necessary here.
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May 28 2016, 04:20 PM
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May 28 2016, 04:19 PM

(I don't use official stuff).
Nor do I. Much prefer a 5x SSJ2 multiplier which bloats the already-massive gap even more.
I used to use a 10x multiplier for SSJ2, just to make the gaps more pronounced and therefore the reactions (mostly to FPPC) to make more sense.

Last time I checked, I had Evil Boo about 1,200x stronger than SSJ3 Goku, but it's been a while since I've done anything like that.
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I like 5x SSJ2 because it makes SSJ3 an even 1000x Base; seems good to me. With that I'd have the gaps something like:

SPC: 1
SSJ Gotenks pre: 5
Base Gotenks post: 10
SSJ: 500
SSJ2: 2,500
SSJ3: 10,000
Super Boo: 10,000 (for simplicity's sake)

Boom. Super Boo 10,000x SPC.

Edit: And putting SSJ Gotenks pre that low means Base Gotenks pre is an ant, which doesn't really make sense. If I make his Base SSJ2-tier then the gap is blown to ridiculous proportions.
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May 28 2016, 03:30 PM
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May 28 2016, 01:52 AM
Cell would need at least a million-fold Kaioken x10000 to even be somewhat competitive, in my opinion.
Think about what you're saying. Do you realize how much power that even is? That would make him so much more powerful than them.
Über Perfect Cell: 1
SS2 Goku: 1.25
SS3 Goku: 5
SS Gotenks (pre): 6.25
Base Gotenks (post): 12.5
SS Gotenks (post): 625
SS2 Gotenks (post): 3,125
SS3 Gotenks (post): 12,500

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Mah numbers: (I use reduced fusion multipliers)
Super Perfect Cell: 1
SSJ2 Goku: 1.1
SSJ3 Goku: 5.5
SSJ Gotenks (pre): 6
Base Gotenks: 9
SSJ Gotenks: 45
SSJ2 Gotenks: 90
SSJ3 Gotenks: 225
Super Boo: 200

SPC loses horribly.
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This SPC will be weaker than even SSJ Gotenks Post Rosat, I mean Base Gotenks Post Rosat >> SPC and SSJ is a 50x boost while you gave him 20x so yeah he gets murdered by SSJ Gotenks post.
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spc doesnt clear anything
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