Kaboom

 

I feel like referring to the theory as "two base forms" is kind of misleading and implies something complicated, as if Goku has some new transformation that's still his base form but stronger. It's not nearly so tricky. The idea is really just that Goku can choose to boost whatever form he's using with his god-ki. He would need Super Saiyan to channel all of it (which gets him SSGSS), but he can use it in his base form too.

It explains why Goku and Vegeta's regular SS forms are still used and distinct from SSGSS, it prevents other random folks who don't use god-ki (Piccolo, Frost, Magetta, Cabbe, etc) from unnecessarily being up in the godly power tiers, it explains how there's a big difference between Goku's "base" and SSGSS strengths despite him still not being close to Beerus even in the latter form (disregarding Super and its sloppy inconsistency on that front), and on and on. It's an easy idea that fills in a lot of holes.

ThePrinceOfSaiyajins

May 26 2016, 09:06 PM

I was reading through the Super Power Levels thread on Kanzenshuu and a post Kaboom made caught my eye:

Kaboom

 

I feel like referring to the theory as "two base forms" is kind of misleading and implies something complicated, as if Goku has some new transformation that's still his base form but stronger. It's not nearly so tricky. The idea is really just that Goku can choose to boost whatever form he's using with his god-ki. He would need Super Saiyan to channel all of it (which gets him SSGSS), but he can use it in his base form too.

It explains why Goku and Vegeta's regular SS forms are still used and distinct from SSGSS, it prevents other random folks who don't use god-ki (Piccolo, Frost, Magetta, Cabbe, etc) from unnecessarily being up in the godly power tiers, it explains how there's a big difference between Goku's "base" and SSGSS strengths despite him still not being close to Beerus even in the latter form (disregarding Super and its sloppy inconsistency on that front), and on and on. It's an easy idea that fills in a lot of holes.

I honestly think this makes a lot of sense. Majin Boo was considered a must for the tournament, so if Goku and Vegeta had intended on using God Ki the whole time, Majin Boo wouldn't have been very useful. What are your thoughts?

SSbardock84

May 28 2016, 07:22 PM

I was always saying that it was god ki that Goku was using against Frieza when he was in his base form. It seemed to make sense but what bothers me is that the others could sense his ki and they can't normally sense god ki. It could be an error but I'm not sure.

Nagito Komaeda

May 29 2016, 01:23 AM

Regarding Boo, his hax means nothing. Beerus absolutely wrecked him and negated them, and the prospect of the tournament having regular tournament rules would pretty much negate any kind of advantage Boo may have had.

ThePrinceOfSaiyajins

May 29 2016, 01:20 AM

Er, actually it is often used to keep Piccolo at a reasonable level. Piccolo suddenly jumping to the level of Goku and Vegeta's base forms is a little hard to believe. Yeah, I personally don't have a problem with it as Piccolo has been training with Gohan for a while, and Gohan seemingly still has access to his Ultimate strength as long as he uses Super Saiyan, so I can see how Piccolo managed to get so strong so quickly, but still, I can see why others have a hard time accepting it.