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| Tinny | May 26 2016, 10:06 PM Post #16 | ||||||
 
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So what a character will and won't do is irrelevant? Am I hearing this right? Why does that matter if it's not about willingness, why not go into threads saying "Goku ITs into his opponent?" if a character's willingness to do so doesn't matter? Willingness is everything, whether they hypothetically can or can't is irrelevant to a versus match, it's about what they will or won't do. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 10:22 PM Post #17 | ||||||
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That's more directed towards Whis then anybody else. He probably can't use the powers, he probably can. You honestly expect me or anybody else is gonna be like "Hey I can't use my telekinesis to stop the bullets, even though I stopped a train not long ago"? Why the heck would a character not use there power to keep oneself alive? |
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| lazerbem | May 26 2016, 11:32 PM Post #18 | ||||||
 
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That's a really bad example in your favor, plenty of telekinetics have gotten shot. Characters don't use powers because they're characters, not just turrets that work at max efficiency for killing potential. If Electro used his max potential, he would violate all of the Dragon Ball universe by being pure energy and attacking their brains, but he doesn't do that. If Twilight Sparkle used max potential, then she'd teleport a rock into anyone's innards or use telekinesis to fling her opponents into space, but she doesn't do that. If Guldo used his max potential, then he'd just stop time before a battle even began and assassinate his opponents with a laser gun. If Boo used his max potential, he'd spam nothing but candy beams. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 26 2016, 11:47 PM Post #19 | ||||||
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Some did some didn't 50/50. Whis gotta use max potential in order to use his abilities? Dude hasn't shown many uses of the powers he has yet, it's impossible to measure him that way. The closest that shows off a lot more is in the Universe 6 saga. |
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| Tinny | May 26 2016, 11:50 PM Post #20 | ||||||
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what's the difference between using some of his potential and all of his potential in this case? Both are being assumed with the same amount of evidence backing them up. There's no real difference, they're both just speculation, so if you're gonna go about it like that, you may as well go all the way, the middle ground commits the same mistake as the extreme. Which is also why Whis vs matches are kind of a bad idea in general. Too little info, I've aborted respect threads and vs matches because I couldn't really find enough to go on for one of the characters. In any case, when I do see a thread, all I have to go on is what he's shown in combat, and that's pretty much just him vs Vegeta and Goku. Anything else is pure speculation. Edited by Tinny, May 26 2016, 11:51 PM.
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| + Solid Snake | May 27 2016, 12:15 AM Post #21 | ||||||
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I wanna see more opinions cause I can't grasp you and Lazer's point. If anyone agree with the no option I'd like to hear if they agree with the way you two mean it or have a different reasoning all together. | ||||||
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| lazerbem | May 27 2016, 12:21 AM Post #22 | ||||||
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Another example, Janemba could theoretically just spawn a sword inside of Goku's head from his brain and kill him. But he doesn't. Theoretically Capable =/= Going to Do That Due to Either Morals/Chracter |
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| + Solid Snake | May 27 2016, 12:28 AM Post #23 | ||||||
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That's sounds like something that a bloodlusted character would do. |
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| lazerbem | May 27 2016, 12:30 AM Post #24 | ||||||
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If you mean blood lusted as in max competence, it's possible, but unlikely. If you mean blood lusted as in going for the kill, then no. Edited by lazerbem, May 27 2016, 12:30 AM.
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| + Solid Snake | May 27 2016, 12:34 AM Post #25 | ||||||
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I don't know, if someone did a bloodlusted match with Frieza, he's nuking the planet. |
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| Tinny | May 27 2016, 12:38 AM Post #26 | ||||||
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Freeza's already done that though, so again, that doesn't work. | ||||||
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| + Solid Snake | May 27 2016, 12:40 AM Post #27 | ||||||
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Frieza only done that when he's losing and has no hope. In straight fights that begins immediately, he's never done that. |
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| Tinny | May 27 2016, 12:45 AM Post #28 | ||||||
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Frreza has without those factors though, just ask the saiyans. Again this isn't a reason why Whis wouldn't say, Matter manipulate them to death. We haven't seen him do that. The whole problem here is like Lazerbem said, characters rarely use their full potential. Even bloodlust isn't a total guarantee, Bloodlusted Rhino isn't gonna become a brilliant strategist for example. Edited by Tinny, May 27 2016, 12:47 AM.
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| + Solid Snake | May 27 2016, 12:59 AM Post #29 | ||||||
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After he was threatened, yeah, you're right. Déjà vu at this point, I'm not implying Whis is gonna change their anatomy into a key or something. I'm simply saying he could use it in a fashion to bail him out in the way if he would die he open a portal and have the ki blast simply pass through. For matter manipulation, just create a some shield or something, a table to help him defensively. Time redo, if certain strategy doesn't go well. Like I simply can't fathom him not at least doing that to defend since we know he can suck objects into portals, rearrange what his sister created, hide/and retrieve stuff from some space in his fight if he's shown he used the powers. |
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| Tinny | May 27 2016, 01:10 AM Post #30 | ||||||
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Yeah, there are better comparisons out there I think. You know what, just answer this question, why do you think it's more probable that he'll what you say he'll do instead of changing anatomy to a key or something? Like do it something like this Points that support how you think he's gonna do it: points that support the key idea: Please. list them, if you're right, there should at least be more (or more compelling evidence) of your idea vs the key idea. Evidence just from the series from what I can tell it'd look like this.
What am I missing? What makes the latter different from the former in terms of arguing what he'll do in a fight? I mean I guess I could add more points but I can't think of anything that wouldn't apply to both. Edited by Tinny, May 27 2016, 01:14 AM.
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