Who I think should help Akira Toriyama write stories for DB super

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Who I think should help Akira Toriyama write stories for DB super
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SSJSC	May 25 2016, 02:20 AM Post #1
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	I think that the people who made battles/scenes for Dragon Ball Heroes (Hoshi) should join Akira Toriyama to help him write stories and create characters. It's the same people who created a SSJ3 Future Trunks, SSJ4 Gohan, SSJ4 Broly, revived Super Vegito, and made Son Goku as one of the main characters with Goku. Those people got some GREAT ideas going on in their heads.



EMIYA	May 25 2016, 03:08 AM Post #2
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	The problem isn't that Toriyama needs ideas, it's that he and/or Toei Animation needs to implement those ideas correctly. Toriyama by his own admittance, has stated he doesn't care about consistency, Toei Animation has point blank shown they don't care about it either. What you get is a bunch of stuff throw at the screen for the sake of "coolness" but without the substance or flavor. You can chuck universe busting shockwaves at the screen all day long and it's still going to stuck because there's no substance to the scene. There's no reasoning for it other than the sake of trying to look cool and not being able to explain it later. I still remember when even now, Old Kaioshin's reason for why Beerus and Goku weren't blowing up the universe... Cause it was real fight. This is the same reason why I hate Dark Walter from Hellsing. I don't care how cool you want to make him, or how badass he is. Kouta Hirano took a character, decided with absolutely no evidence before or after, to make him evil, turn him into a Nazi, act like he was always a Nazi and then send him off to fight where he establishes nothing. Especially when not a few pages before, we had the emotional climax between Alucard and Anderson. You need substance, you need to sprinkle some reasoning and flavor on your food.



Mago_Gosora	May 25 2016, 03:29 AM Post #3
Posts: 422 Group: Member Member #8,746 Joined: December 26, 2012 Favourite Anime Dragonball	He has plenty of help writing Super for him. I think its about 16 different writers so far iirc and then he's got Toyotaro. But I think that's the problem. Too much outside help. Toriyama just doesn't wanna work on this thing more than he has to it seems



SSJSC	May 25 2016, 03:31 AM Post #4
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Mago_Gosora May 25 2016, 03:29 AM He has plenty of help writing Super for him. I think its about 16 different writers so far iirc and then he's got Toyotaro. But I think that's the problem. Too much outside help. Toriyama just doesn't wanna work on this thing more than he has to it seems Who's Toyotaro?



Tinny	May 25 2016, 03:33 AM Post #5
Posts: 6,060 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	The mangaka for DBS, Toriyama reviews and gives him the ok while Toyotaro actually writes and draws it.
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Billa	May 25 2016, 04:53 AM Post #6
Thala na Gethu! Posts: 4,218 Group: Member Member #7,273 Joined: February 3, 2012 Favourite Anime Nothin What Browser do you use? Nothin Favourite Manga Nothin	Just ask him to read his very own goddamn manga & use them as guideline for Super. Case closed Isnt Hoshi doing the same thing? Most of it (barring a few what-if scenarios which were improvised version of manga) jas strong resemblance to Toriyama's manga & it looks great thx to updated animation/artistry & music If anything, I'd say just let Super RIP. Its got nothing working in its favor (coherent plot, heartwarming/epic moments, great fights, funny jokes).



+ Emmeth	May 25 2016, 09:35 AM Post #7
I ♥ Yoeri Posts: 20,075 Group: Legend Member #8,985 Joined: February 7, 2013 Country Japan	Mago seems to be right on this one. AT doesn't seem as invested in this as he could've been. It's like he's thinking it's an easy way to make money... And he's right.
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SSJSC	May 25 2016, 02:42 PM Post #8
Posts: 1,024 Group: Member Member #10,761 Joined: January 23, 2014	Emmeth May 25 2016, 09:35 AM Mago seems to be right on this one. AT doesn't seem as invested in this as he could've been. It's like he's thinking it's an easy way to make money... And he's right. As I mentioned, a dragon ball heroes or GT series would've been the perfect sequel to dragon ball z. It was just poorly executed. Edited by SSJSC, May 25 2016, 02:42 PM.



+ Son-Goku	May 25 2016, 11:52 PM Post #9
孫悟空 Posts: 13,359 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	The guy who does the manga for DBH draws and helps write the manga for DBS already.
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Goku9000	May 28 2016, 09:58 PM Post #10
Posts: 416 Group: Member Member #13,229 Joined: May 27, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ, Tokyo Ghoul, Highschool of the dead, Elfen lied, Deadman wonderland. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Akira Toriyama is just looking for ways to make money without all of the trouble of writing and whatnot, it sucks but it's true.



* Ketchup Revenge	May 28 2016, 10:04 PM Post #11
"Gentlemen, you can't fight in here! This is the war room!" Posts: 6,083 Group: Retired Forum Moderator Member #9,012 Joined: February 9, 2013 Gender Not Specified Country Chile Favourite Anime FMA: Brotherhood, Dragon Ball, Samurai Champloo, Soul Eater, Assassination Classroom What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fullmetal Alchemist, Assassination Classroom, Deadman Wonderland	I have never read a fan manga or seen a fan film that replicates Toriyama's storytelling style, or the fight sequencing, and Goku is poorly written and acted out in every single fan version. The fan series and fan versions simply don't understand his character, even Funimation doesn't get him either. Asking any fan to "help" out would turn it into GT 2.0 Even Super is guilty of falling under this umbrella given that Toriyama isn't actually the one writing it; although I will admit that it at least does do his earlier manga style a bit of justice. Edited by Ketchup Revenge, May 28 2016, 10:11 PM.
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highwaysaiyan	May 30 2016, 02:04 AM Post #12
Posts: 335 Group: Member Member #12,757 Joined: November 11, 2015	akira toriyama is NOT in charge of DBS. he isnt one of its writers, at least not a main one nor take major part in the design team. toriyama had ALOT of influence during the time of DBZ where he designed and wrote most of the stories and lines. DBS is a different story. toriyama gives guidelines and ideas, maybe a design here and there. sometimes the writers listen to him but mostly they dont. but at the end of the day, he doesnt have any real power over the animation. the manga, as far as i know, toriyama recruited another writer because he is old, lazy and, in his words, "dont want to write violence and evil character anymore". in the manga's case, toriyama can be considered a head-writer and [possibly] owner.



+ Majin Vegeta	May 31 2016, 02:06 PM Post #13
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