Vegito and Gogeta vs Buutenks and Buff Buu

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Vegito and Gogeta vs Buutenks and Buff Buu
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+ Solid Snake	May 23 2016, 08:11 PM Post #1
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Base Vegito and Super Saiyan 2 Gogeta going up against Buutenks and Buff Buu. Base Vegito was able to catch an attack from Buuhan that was to destroy earth and easily able to run and kick it into orbit. *can be used if you wanna Assume Gogeta is from M11, in which case Super Saiyan Gotenks defeated inital Super Buu. Who wins?
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+ Son-Goku	May 23 2016, 08:16 PM Post #2
孫悟空 Posts: 13,368 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	The fusion team dominates. Vegito alone could beat both Buus.
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EMIYA	May 23 2016, 08:36 PM Post #3
"I am the bone of my sword." Posts: 11,326 Group: Super Moderator Member #8,292 Joined: September 16, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Clannad, Shinsekai Yori What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Hellsing, Elfen Lied, Trigun Maximum	With anime Vegetto's its hard to tell. While its true he manages to put up a fight against Boohan, its also made a point in the original Japanese that Boo is screwing around as well and isn't giving it his all. Plus, unlike the manga, once Boo got angry, his power was enough for Super Vegetto to actually struggle and forced to use effort. With the idea that Boohan is still superior to Base Vegetto (and definitely more so in the manga) let's just say for arguments sake that Base Vegetto~Gotenks Boo. If I was using manga, poor Vegetto would get his face caved in. As for Gogeta, he's pretty much screwed. With the very heavy implication of SSj3 Gogeta>~Gotenks Boo, SSj3 Gogeta could have helped pull off the win. But unless you want to use a small SSJ2 boost and it's already as low as 2x for SEG, Gogeta would more than likely fall behind the likes of both Bootenks and Buff Boo. Honestly I'd feel the Boo's would have a relatively solid win on this one. To me, Vegetto's not going to match up to a Boo when their powers are so close and the same can be said for Gogeta and Buff Boo even if they were close. This is true especially for Bootenks whom unlike Buff Boo, actually has intelligence on his side along with his array of abilities.



+ Solid Snake	May 23 2016, 09:58 PM Post #4
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	Dark Matter May 23 2016, 08:36 PM With anime Vegetto's its hard to tell. While its true he manages to put up a fight against Boohan, its also made a point in the original Japanese that Boo is screwing around as well and isn't giving it his all. Plus, unlike the manga, once Boo got angry, his power was enough for Super Vegetto to actually struggle and forced to use effort. With the idea that Boohan is still superior to Base Vegetto (and definitely more so in the manga) let's just say for arguments sake that Base Vegetto~Gotenks Boo. If I was using manga, poor Vegetto would get his face caved in. As for Gogeta, he's pretty much screwed. With the very heavy implication of SSj3 Gogeta>~Gotenks Boo, SSj3 Gogeta could have helped pull off the win. But unless you want to use a small SSJ2 boost and it's already as low as 2x for SEG, Gogeta would more than likely fall behind the likes of both Bootenks and Buff Boo. Honestly I'd feel the Boo's would have a relatively solid win on this one. To me, Vegetto's not going to match up to a Boo when their powers are so close and the same can be said for Gogeta and Buff Boo even if they were close. This is true especially for Bootenks whom unlike Buff Boo, actually has intelligence on his side along with his array of abilities. I'm just curious how Super Saiyan 3 was the go to form for Gogeta to be able to beat Buutenks? I agreed with you that Super Saiyan wouldn't be warrant enough to fight Buutenks, but I sincerely can't imagine that Super Saiyan 2 couldn't be the logical choice. Why I think it isn't Super Saiyan 3, stems from the fact of the form and it surrounding fusion itself: it is a energy consuming form, it's unstable to the point that the user's living body collapses from stress of maintaining it, and it's impossible to transform after fusing, if you hadn't trained yet to do so. Why it can't potentially be Super Saiyan, is for me at least to some degree, is that they will already be near Super Buu's strength like Gotenks, likely equals or a bit weaker to threaten Buu before his feat of battling Super Saiyan 3 Gotenks. Plus the fact Goku asked if he should use Super Saiyan first, to maximize the merger via the Potara, before Old Kaioshin tells him otherwise. If he would have used it for the Potara, Goku had to assume that they were equals before being informed that the base of Gokhan would've been more then enough. Had to update this post. I know the numbers throw it off but it's indirectly implied that Super Saiyan Gogeta could possibly beat Buutenks. Edited by Solid Snake, May 23 2016, 10:02 PM.
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PocketGod	May 23 2016, 11:01 PM Post #5
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	Gogeta Solos, I already have SSJ Gogeta = Buutenks, the main reason is because I think Super Janemba = Ultimate Gohan.
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+ Solid Snake	May 24 2016, 01:10 AM Post #6
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	PocketGod May 23 2016, 11:01 PM Gogeta Solos, I already have SSJ Gogeta = Buutenks, the main reason is because I think Super Janemba = Ultimate Gohan. Can you inform me on what gives you the implications that Super Janemba equals Ultimate Gohan?
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+ Son-Goku	May 24 2016, 02:21 AM Post #7
孫悟空 Posts: 13,368 Group: Elite Member Member #12,886 Joined: January 24, 2016 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime DB/DBZ/DBS, Code Geass, Gintama, YYH, Death Note, and SAO. What Browser do you use? Google Chrome Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Fairy Tail, and Naruto.	I feel like adding SS2 Gogeta is kind of pointless here. He's outclassed by a pretty decent margin.
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+ Solid Snake	May 24 2016, 02:41 AM Post #8
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	SSbardock84 May 24 2016, 02:21 AM I feel like adding SS2 Gogeta is kind of pointless here. He's outclassed by a pretty decent margin. If you believe so argue against post 4 for me k? I will like to read your thoughts.
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PocketGod	May 24 2016, 03:10 AM Post #9
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	It just seems right to have it that way, well in my opinion anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Edited by PocketGod, May 24 2016, 03:11 AM.
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+ Solid Snake	May 24 2016, 03:17 AM Post #10
滅Are you frightened? Posts: 8,963 Group: Elite Member Member #6,739 Joined: September 11, 2011 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Dragon ball, z, gt, Naruto & Shippuden, Bleach, Rosario + Vampire What Browser do you use? Kept you waiting huh? Favourite Manga Dragon Ball, Naruto, and Bleach	PocketGod May 24 2016, 03:10 AM It just seems right to have it that way, well in my opinion anyway ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ Fair enough, but you'd have to lower Super Buu too since Super Saiyan 3 Goku did "something" to an Ultimate Gohan tier opponent.
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PocketGod	May 24 2016, 03:35 AM Post #11
Posts: 1,668 Group: Member Member #12,574 Joined: August 22, 2015 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Yowamushi Pedal What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk	Nah not lower Super Buu, just raise SSJ3 Goku, this is a toei movie where Goku is ridiculously stronger than he's supposed to be, just look at the beginning of the movie, he's fighting evenly with Pikkon while in base form (• ε •) Pretty much in that movie, the way I see it. SSJ Gogeta = Buutenks Super Janemba = Ultimate Gohan SSJ3 Goku = Super Buu
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* Yu Narukami	May 24 2016, 12:49 PM Post #12
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	It doesn't matter how strong Goku is though, Vegeta stayed the same. He didn't have a body and he didn't train, so Goku would have to lower his power to Vegeta's level in order to fuse with him.



RealSociedad	May 24 2016, 12:57 PM Post #13
Posts: 1,352 Group: Member Member #9,575 Joined: June 4, 2013 Favourite Anime Dragonball Z What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball Z	Even though the Buu's have the power advantage here, it will be like a Hell to fight two fuses from Vegeta and Goku. Even though they have less power, tactically they are superior, and I know for sure if they work together they will find a way to destroy the Buu's.



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