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Spider-Man: Homecoming (2017)
Topic Started: May 20 2016, 08:18 PM (4,818 Views)
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The first Avengers movie and CA: The First Avenger had a good soundtrack, Alan Silvestri was the composer. The second Avengers had some Danny Elfman music, but I think it was mostly some other guy. Can't remember the others. Guardians obviously had a bunch of songs from the 80s.
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May 21 2016, 11:39 AM
I've heard rumors that Vulture will be doing the stupid youth sucking thing he did in the 90's
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Oh God, I'm getting baaad memories from TAS.

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May 21 2016, 11:39 AM
I've heard rumors that Vulture will be doing the stupid youth sucking thing he did in the 90's
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Well Tom Holland haven't seen the script yet and Vulture hasn't been fully confirmed either so...we'll see
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May 21 2016, 01:59 PM
Well Tom Holland haven't seen the script yet and Vulture hasn't been fully confirmed either so...we'll see
How come he hasn't read or seen his script yet? Shouldn't they be filming it right now?
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May 21 2016, 03:01 PM
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May 21 2016, 01:59 PM
Well Tom Holland haven't seen the script yet and Vulture hasn't been fully confirmed either so...we'll see
How come he hasn't read or seen his script yet? Shouldn't they be filming it right now?
Production is expected to begin next month.
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May 21 2016, 05:01 AM
Michael Keaton needs to be the Vulture. Birdman, anyone?
Just because he played some guy with wings that doesn't mean he's a perfect choice for Vulture. That'd be like saying Mark Ruffalo is a good casting choice for The Thing just because he played Hulk. Two completely different characters, and Keaton isn't fit to play an old man who's always ranting about how awful his life has been and how much young people underestimate him.

He has the looks, but I don't want him to play Vulture as over-the-top as Willem Dafoe did with the Green Goblin, since Keaton tends to do that even moreso than Dafoe. The only thing Keaton would nail is the appearance, even if Vulture is like what, 15 years older than Keaton?

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Just because he played some guy with wings that doesn't mean he's a perfect choice for Vulture. That'd be like saying Mark Ruffalo is a good casting choice for The Thing just because he played Hulk. Two completely different characters, and Keaton isn't fit to play an old man who's always ranting about how awful his life has been and how much young people underestimate him.

He has the looks, but I don't want him to play Vulture as over-the-top as Willem Dafoe did with the Green Goblin, since Keaton tends to do that even moreso than Dafoe. The only thing Keaton would nail is the appearance, even if Vulture is like what, 15 years older than Keaton?

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Except Keaton is the perfect fit for a character like that? He's done it before.

Also, he's been over-the-top in one movie, MAYBE two, so I wouldn't say he's an over-the-top actor.

Michael Keaton is a very versatile actor who can play in any movie genre. He's one of our generations most underrated actors.
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Again, you're completely ignoring the fact that Birdman and Vulture are nothing alike. Sure they look similar, but that's not the same as portraying a character. And how is he underrated? Keaton is pretty well known for being part of classic movies like Beetlejuice or Tim Burton's Batman, among others.
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Again, you're completely ignoring the fact that Birdman and Vulture are nothing alike. Sure they look similar, but that's not the same as portraying a character. And how is he underrated? Keaton is pretty well known for being part of classic movies like Beetlejuice or Tim Burton's Batman, among others.
It was just a movie comparison, you don't have to go into huge depths of character analysis. You take comics way too seriously, you know that?

Michael Keaton is underrated in the sense that he's been previously typecasted. Look at his acting in almost every movie he's in and you can see a lot of untapped potential.
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Birdman aside I would have no qualms with Keaton being Vulture anyway. Can't think of a better looking actor for the part and he's a great actor to boot.

Since when is he always over the top? He plays a couple of over the top characters, that's not all he does.

Johnny Depp can nail a serious role despite being a quirky over the top character in like...99% of all movies he's been in.


Also age shouldn't really be a problem with CGI although Keaton would certainly be of the perfect age for the life sucking thing. They could make him look a lot older and a lot younger without it looking completely broken.
Although Disney need to work on their CGI some of it in Civil War was pretty bad.

If we're having Vulture though we'd have to question why Iron Man isn't just going to utterly wreck him since he's in the movie. Would be a bit lame if his suit was somehow better than the Iron Man suit. Perhaps this could be mere weeks after Civil War and he hasn't fixed it yet...still a bid ridiculous.


Wonder if Mary Jane and/or Gwen Stacey will be important in the movie? Can see them ditching love interests for a while after two failed series. Gwen has been done twice(though she was just some bimbo in 3)
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Jun 3 2016, 08:20 PM
You take comics way too seriously, you know that?
How come? What you just said goes for anyone, including you. Not just with comics, but with shows, movies, etcetera, everyone takes something they like seriously. Mind you, I actually care about the things they're adapting the movies from, it's not my problem if you don't care about Vulture, but I do.
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Assumptions are strong in this one.

I see it as entertainment, not a religion. Said nothing about not caring about the Vulture.
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I don't see how he's taking comics too seriously if he's behaving like every other hard core fan.....

Also aren't we on a forum for a kids TV show debating...?
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Taking it seriously in the sense that the movies should be exactly like the comics, for whatever reason.

I don't see why they should be. If both a movie and a comic are identical then there's no reason to read/watch both of them. Different takes are much more interesting.
So long as they're not insultingly off point like if they made Spider-Man this dull depressed kid that only saves people in passing and uses his powers to steal doughnuts.
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Taking it seriously in the sense that the movies should be exactly like the comics, for whatever reason.

I don't see why they should be. If both a movie and a comic are identical then there's no reason to read/watch both of them. Different takes are much more interesting.
So long as they're not insultingly off point like if they made Spider-Man this dull depressed kid that only saves people in passing and uses his powers to steal doughnuts.
The Animated Silver Surfer tv show which iirc Darker likes allot (I mean he did recommend it) says hello. That changed quite a bit of stuff.

Honestly the way I see it a few things can be changed on a whim (mainly costumes (though it's mostly because I like seeing alternate costumes on heroes and the different way it's interpreted, to a degree, specific storylines so the writers don't get bored of transcribing comics to the big screen). But at the same time there should be an effort to make sure that if you're gonna bring in a known character, you should try to keep the soul of what makes that character translate to the big screen.

I mean let's be honest, the final villain in Captain America 3 could have easily been an original character, I don't see the point of having him be a character, especially when it's to the point that few could recognize him beyond googling his name. Heck I'm pretty sure Darker couldn't even tell who that was supposed to be, I know I certainly can't remember which villain he is. Not that he's bad by any means, he just could have easily been created for that film specifically, and making him a specific character restrains future stories.

I'd say if you're gonna bring a known character in, you should try to make it so that if the movie going audience happens to pick up a comic with the characters in the movie inside the comic (say a Spider-man comic with the Vulture after seeing Spider-man: Homecoming), they should be fairly readily recognize the character, maybe a few costume changes here and there but in personality and such the same. Generally anyway.
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