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The Bleach Team vs Dragon Ball/Z/GT/Super
Topic Started: May 15 2016, 09:48 PM (2,752 Views)
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How far would Everyone and Everything in the Bleach Franchise as One Big Team make it in Dragon Ball, Z, GT, and Super?
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Yama's hard as hell to get over lol. Ohh, Garlic Jr. should be able to do something he's immortal so he should be able to kill him, he'll "die" but will regenerate.
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Well there are still characters who could seal him away though or just take control of him.

Never really understood the fascination Dragon Ball characters have with immortality...does it matter when people like Goku will always beat your face in?
Pan while still in the womb could probably beat Garlic Jr. at this point.

It's not the worst wish but still, unlimited energy or something would be better. Especially weird how Frieza wants immortality...can his species even die of old age?

Are we ever going to stop with the "Characters from X series can't even blow up X amount of area so they lose!" thing? Just stop...


Forgot about Suì-Fēng here, ironically her Shikai is far more powerful than her Bankai here :rofl: she could kill a great many.
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May 18 2016, 12:41 PM
Well there are still characters who could seal him away though or just take control of him.

Never really understood the fascination Dragon Ball characters have with immortality...does it matter when people like Goku will always beat your face in?
Pan while still in the womb could probably beat Garlic Jr. at this point.

It's not the worst wish but still, unlimited energy or something would be better. Especially weird how Frieza wants immortality...can his species even die of old age?

Are we ever going to stop with the "Characters from X series can't even blow up X amount of area so they lose!" thing? Just stop...


Forgot about Suì-Fēng here, ironically her Shikai is far more powerful than her Bankai here :rofl: she could kill a great many.
If he has the Makyo star he constantly gets strength from there which builds over time I believe. He used it to get free of the Dead Zone.
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May 18 2016, 01:36 AM
Nobody in Dragon Ball has come anywhere near surviving 15 million degrees. Dragon Ball Super had Vegeta taking issue with Magetta's magma temperature and the oxygen deprivation alone. There's nothing in DBZ that says they're taking on those kind of temperatures. Even an exploding planet isn't noted to reach those temperatures so there's nothing we can go on from there.

The movies don't help much either. Give, as I said before, credit to Cooler for surviving the surface of the sun, but the surface ain't no 15 million degrees. SSJ2 Movie 10 Gohan though lava was the only way to kill Broly and believe me, that isn't getting near Core Sun temperatures. At best, we have GT Goku having difficulties with Sun Surface temperatures. Nouva, being the guy he is might be able to survive it along with Super Yi Xing Long and SSj4 Gogeta on virtue of just being so much more massively powerful than the former.

At this point, it would take a very select few to want to tango with Bankai Yamamoto. It would take guys with powers that aren't necessarily physical in their approach. They better hope that a good ki blast can be fired, and be able to get passed the intense energy radiating from Yamamoto or maybe even have some anti-Bankai ability of some sort to just get rid of it.

Aizen, a perfect illusionist creating bastard whose full power Hado 90 Kurohitsugi could distort the very fabric of space itself and Ywach, a nigh omniscient, all powerful Quincy King God who can obtain the massive amount of abilities of his fellow Quincy, did not dare try to face Yamamoto's flames because Grandpa Genocide was too extreme.

I can say this for certain.

Nobody in Super is taking on 15 million degrees, not after the feats we've seen.

Nobody in the movies is taking on 15 million degrees, at best taking anywhere between magma to sun surface temperatures (ironically the weaker character survived the sun while the much stronger ones were going to die against magma, Cooler too haexed)

It took SSJ4 Evil Dragon Arc Goku to even get up to Sun Surface Temperature and that still harmed him.

And there's yet to be anything I've seen in the manga or anime that has come to match the power of 15 million degrees.

Old Man Genocide too extreme, please nerf.
Just because its ridiculously hot doesnt mean anyone below Frieza could literally exhale it on to the other team. Intensity<<<<being able to be blown like any other fire. Fire is fire no matter how hot.

Hell my bad even weaker characters can just expel kai at the same time and wash the bleach team out of existence. End game then
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You want to blow on fire? Put more oxygen on fire? This isn't a candle nor is it just some regular fire that can be put out via the fire department. This is Yamamoto's bankai which is so strong its destroying the dimension of Sereitei just by existing. That's not going to be enough to put out Yamamoto's flames nor would a kai or blowing on him be enough to to stop him.

There are surely ways to beat him, but blowing on him is pushing it.
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No, he's saying that they could blow the flames back to burn the Bleach team with their own flames
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Since when can DBZ characters exhale so hard they can put out stars...?

They don't work that way, heat doesn't work that way. Even though space is as close to 0 Kelvin as you get stars still function.

This is the problem with how Dragon Ball characters are viewed, they are not all powerful.
Goku could systematically destroy the solar system with ease, he still got a heart virus that puny humans cured and weren't instantly slain by.

They excel at destruction, that doesn't make them excel at everything else by default.


EDIT the flames would burn plenty of the Bleach team anyway and that's really not how they work his sun armour doesn't reach much further past his body but the heat does.
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"I am the bone of my sword."

Most of the characters are either already knowledgeable on Yamamoto's bankai or are smart enough to keep a distance from it. The DBZ cast would inferred to be smart enough to know that as well. His bankai was effecting the entire Sereitei but its hard to tell what the distance is to be so you don't burn up. Once Yamamoto uses his Bankai, everyone but the Vandereich who have Blut will be off the battlefield. Of course a combination Bankai Yamamoto+The Almighty Ywhach was a scary thing to think about.

But you see, I was reading this topic as, is there any specific characters from Bleach who can handle these specific DBZverses. If you're throwing out the entire Bleachverse, its a whole new game here. Sun level flames busting around, As Nodts Fear spreading out, Monster Aizen popping out nuke blasts and Space distorting Hado 90s. Gremmy, even if it is limited to some degree is warping reality here and there. Barragan's spreading out Respira. Cero's being blasted here and there, Ywhach can essentially take the powers of all the Quincy and is...omniscient apparently.

I mean it would be utter chaos.
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Yeah Yama's Bankai would cause chaos for everyone but it's hard to tell exactly how it works.

Like did he just limit the range the heat spreads or did it just function differently, being in a spirit world and not Earth?
Obviously realistically anything approaching the temperature of the sun would instantly burn the atmosphere but does it not do that because it was on Earth or because Yama held it back?
The latter seems more reasonable, given that it sounded like he'd lose control and destroy everything.


There's also the guards of the Soul King that haven't been mentioned, I forget exactly what the main guy does but he seemed damn strong.

Actually yeah Ichibē is hugely powerful too here.

He could cut peoples power down immensely, create impassable barriers and whatnot he'd be a huge offensive, defensive and supportive force.

Even better, if someone merely says his name he can resurrect himself.

He could probably make "Kamehameha" just "K" and make it a fraction as powerful or I think he could just make people forget about it entirely then they can't even use it or anything else he erases from knowledge.

Forgot how broken this guy is.

He was only defeated because Juha is even more broken.


Kubo's ridiculously huge cast of characters is good for something after all.
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Freeza/Cell/Boo can live through a planet's collapse. That's incredibly hot. If it's anywhere near a Star's collapse, than way way hotter than the Sun.

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The core of the Earth is only around 6,000 C while the core of the Sun is 15 million degrees.


Not sure how hot a planet exploding is, probably a bit more than 6000 degrees but nowhere near the heat of the sun I'd expect. Especially not Namek considering it had no core left.

Lets not forget those three survive because of their unique bodies though, not because Dragon Ball characters are just that strong.
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One of the problems is that we don't really have data, real or manga on the effects an exploding planet or what its heat would generate. Surely its kinetic force would be unbelievable but we just don't have things on heat. But even if Freeza, Cell and Boo can survive Core Sun Temperatures, and I do not believe we've seen that yet, they are the outlines because a lot of characters in the series, ones that are technically supposed to be vastly stronger than them, have not shown the ability to survive those temperatures.
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A planet exploding would only create as much heat as the core, wouldn't it? It's not like there's any flammable materials or fusion that's being caused with the planet's materials, all the energy would be coming straight from the blast.
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No, I don't think there's any reason to believe that. I'd assume that loss of equilibrium in gravity is the main thing going on here (not that AT knows about this or anything), leading to a gravitational collapse. This releases a s***ton of a heat. Stars release a minimum of 3 billion kelvin on their lower end, the question is what would happen on a planet instead.

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May 18 2016, 04:44 PM
Since when can DBZ characters exhale so hard they can put out stars...?

They don't work that way, heat doesn't work that way. Even though space is as close to 0 Kelvin as you get stars still function.

This is the problem with how Dragon Ball characters are viewed, they are not all powerful.
Goku could systematically destroy the solar system with ease, he still got a heart virus that puny humans cured and weren't instantly slain by.

They excel at destruction, that doesn't make them excel at everything else by default.


EDIT the flames would burn plenty of the Bleach team anyway and that's really not how they work his sun armour doesn't reach much further past his body but the heat does.
The point isnt to extinguish the flames. It is to simply direct it back at the team from whence it came. And whats worse if since more oxygen is applied, it would drench them with flames far hotter than when they were first unleashed. To make a basic understanding of how things could go down.

Roshi fires off a moon annihilating blast
King Piccolo vaporizes the entire landscape
Raditz fires off a Double Sunday
Nappa fingers Soul Society
Vegeta Galick Guns there asses
The Ginyu Force does the Ginyu Force thing.....
Frieza Death beams/Death Balls there asses
Goku Kamehamehas with the power far exceeding anything they could imagine combined
Gohan rofl gets pissed because his fodder friends die. No
way the Bleach team is stopping a pissed off Gohan
Broly...god forbid
Janemba s***s on anything that has to do with hax
Cooler does what Frieza does but alot...Cooler
Dabura spits on Yama while he thinks his flames are loling anyone
Cell completely absorbs weaker foes until he reaches high tiers he could literally s*** away
All the Buus crap on everything that comes there way. Theres literally know way they can be stopped by bleach standards
The gods just literally god stomp. Bad

Roshi accomplishes his move faster than any of them can react and whats worse everyone else does their move so much more faster than him its hilarious.
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