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| Tweet Topic Started: May 15 2016, 09:48 PM (2,753 Views) | |
| Venom 2009 | May 15 2016, 09:48 PM Post #1 |
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How far would Everyone and Everything in the Bleach Franchise as One Big Team make it in Dragon Ball, Z, GT, and Super? |
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| + Steve | May 17 2016, 12:35 PM Post #46 |
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Greetings. I will be your waifu this season.
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Oh come on that's BS... Ulquiorra was casually chucking out those spear things and they did wayyyy more damage than Nappa's attack, Ulquiorra is s*** tier now. Can't be bothered checking up how to spell his name either. Explosions aren't everything anyway. Even if Vegeta can cause a planets destruction he's still vulnerable to poison, illusions and plenty other things. Äs Nödt would have many of them crying like little babies because they'd just try tank his seemingly weak attacks and get affected by his ability. It's not like Dragon Ball characters are smart about dodging every single attack. Äs Nödt's thorns wouldn't even register as a threat or do any actual damage, they'd have no clue what was going on. Even if they did for some uncharacteristic reason dodge every attack his Vollstandig only requires them to look at him for them to s*** their pants. |
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| Akatsuki Kill3r | May 17 2016, 04:07 PM Post #47 |
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Buuhan alone annihilates the entire bleachverse. They cannot cut, burn, age, punch, mind control, or damage him enough to not regenerate, and blow them away. Sealing him is impossible due to an inferior version screaming his way out of any dimension. Idk all the hax bleach has but its clearly not enough to tango with the likes of Buu. Kid Buu just utterly godstomps them l. His insight on weaklings are to destroy them and move along to the next one. Let me rephrase myself: Are you completely off the wall bats*** insane? Their entire universe as an army against the other? Are you mad? DB Universe would be rid of a few people but it literally takes one or two of them to wreck everyone on the bleach team. Edited by Akatsuki Kill3r, May 17 2016, 04:18 PM.
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| EMIYA | May 17 2016, 04:54 PM Post #48 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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A lot of characters in Bleach actually do have the capabilities to deal with Boo, though they may not necessarily have the capabilities to deal with Boo's own attacks. Bankai Yamamoto is probably one of the few characters who can tango with Boo because not only does he have the destructive power to deal with Boo, his intense sun level heat and fire makes it essentially impossible for Boo and for that matter a lot of other people to get near him. He's got that offense along with that defense and Yamamoto's powers were so great he was going to affect dimensions. It was basically remarked that if Yamamoto kept his Bankai out for too long, he'd have destroyed the world. That whole thing at least puts Yamamoto on Super Boo when it comes to power, though more than likely doesn't match up to speed. Plus its hard to say how attacks like ki or the transfiguration beam would work. Boo physically cannot get near Yamamoto, you need special defense against his bankai and that's something Boo simply does not have. But that doesn't necessarily mean ranged attacks through ki or attacks that aren't entirely physical wouldn't work. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 17 2016, 06:37 PM Post #49 |
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I think Cell could absorb Yamamoto, reason why cause he's like Frieza (and therefore Cooler) and can survive just about I'm any condition and simply add his power to his own. There's also a being called Yami or Darkness in the filler episodes of the original Dragon Ball anime that has the power to either shape shift into the likeness of people close to the victims or via telepathy I believe. |
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| Akatsuki Kill3r | May 17 2016, 08:08 PM Post #50 |
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There is no way Yama is matching any of the Buus in power. Like at all. Noone in bleach has power that comes close to 100% Full power Frieza. The only reason that are at the battlefield is because of lol i has hax. Pure Retsui vs Ki is like a planet vs a marble. Heat wont be a problem if you can just bomb your opponent from a distance. Destroying the world? That wont really strike fear into the DB cast. They already know the drill. |
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| EMIYA | May 17 2016, 08:55 PM Post #51 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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That actually probably wouldn't work. Doing a bit of reading, Yamamoto's defense with the flames around his body reaches a temperature of 15 million degrees. Forget the surface of the sun, that's literally as hot as the core of the sun itself. I kind of doubt anyone in the series is surviving that. And it's made a point that it isn't just heat either, it's actual flames that are burned so hot they become basically invisible unless Yamamoto wants them to be seen. Pun aside, it is some heavy firepower on him. Give credit to Cooler for surviving the surface of the sun, but he can't say he survived core of the sun.
But he really could. His basic sword in Bankai destroys anything it contact without burning or explosion. Ignoring issues with regeneration, he has an attack that is basically unblockable in the normal sense. I mean you have what is essential an instant death sun sword. He's got his defense, where as I mentioned above he sheaths his body in Sun Core Temperature flames and it basically makes him untouchable. He's literally generating 15,000,000 degree flames and his power is so intense is slowly destroying Seretei by existing. DBZ characters might be able to destroy planets directly, but very few of them can say they're powers are passively destroying the dimension they are in. He's got the ability raise an army of dead, though I feel this one won't really mean much so I won't go into it. And then there's his final ability which is just a super version of his first, complete obliterating of the object. the only real question is if he can completely engulf Boo and if he does, Boo's dead. Once Bankai Yamamoto comes into play, unfortunately none of the characters (unless they have some kind of special defense or something) can even get near him and the utterly intense flames around him may potentially even keep ranged attacks like ki blasts and explosions away from him. But all in all, if anyone in DBZ wants to defeat Bankai Yamamoto, they'll either need an indirect attack (heck in this case, Babidi might be the one to defeat Yamamoto) or they just have to hope their ki and blasts can get through. 15 million degrees is pretty intense. Edited by EMIYA, May 17 2016, 08:55 PM.
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| + Steve | May 17 2016, 09:11 PM Post #52 |
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Again you can't compare power so simply. DBZ is pretty much just explosions. Yama was going to destroy the world from just the energy that comes out of him while his Bankai is active. Think the SSj3 Goku powerup but him not even actively powering up. That's a realm of power Dragon Ball doesn't reach. They can blow up planets with concentrated energy but not just by being powered up. Also lets not forget that Yama can raise the dead and his Bankai's best ability here is that it burns ANYTHING. If his sword touches your arm, whole arm instantly burned to nothingness. All he'd have to do is cut Buu up quickly, there wouldn't be leftovers like when energy attacks hit him Yama's Bankai would destroy the very atoms that make his body. As for Cell it's doubful he'd pull off absorbing him, his tail would burn while doing so as would his insides as Yama was being sucked in. That would backfire massively. Bambietta is also pretty deadly to Dragon Ball here, her power literally just makes someone's energy blow them up. The only reason she was defeated was because the guy that beat her was literally invincible and couldn't be damaged at all(plot BS obv) Then there's Barro who can shoot through anything, absolutely anything if he's in danger. Goku charging a KHH? Shoot right through it and through his head. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 17 2016, 10:14 PM Post #53 |
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I think Cell doing that is 50/50, double K.O.? But I think there should be some perks though for Dragon Ball. In there verse, having an enormous amount of power sometimes negate haxing abilities to a degree. Don't y'all think that should be allowed too? Everyone knows the series don't have many hax but whenever any is involved, they usually lessen them by being stronger. |
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| EMIYA | May 17 2016, 10:48 PM Post #54 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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The DBZverse probably has some things, and ironically enough they belong to some of the weaker characters. Babidi,despite being weak as hell has his magic which can affect long distances without having a physical form. He's literally exploded people like that one guy at the World Tournament while not even being there. Akumaman/Devilman has his Devilmite Beam (or whatever it was originally called) which expands the evil in a person's heart until it explodes. That attack while having a physical appearance has an indirect way to attack and it might get through Yamamoto's defense and anyone else and unfortunately for Yamamoto, changed ways or not, he's not a man of pureness. I'm not sure if it would mean anything but Guldo stops time and if that has an effect on the heat and flames, Yamamoto leaves himself open to an attack. I'm not sure if we would count this but I suppose Ginyu's Body change has merit. If we go into the Non-Canon route, Garlic Junior can open up the Dead Zone. Yamamoto at this point, until I get a bit more on say Aizen or Ywach is truly one of the few people who can tango with the DBZverse upper tiers directly. The other characters may have the capabilities to harm the DBZverse but not necessarily the abilities protect themselves. |
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| lazerbem | May 17 2016, 10:53 PM Post #55 |
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Freeza or the like destroying the planet could work to destroy a lot of Bleach characters assuming he doesn't get burnt first. |
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| Tinny | May 17 2016, 11:26 PM Post #56 |
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I wouldn't say so, if the hax gets overtaken then that says something about the technique rather than the ones breaking it. Otherwise Yugo, Grougaloragran, and Albert from Wakfu can speed blitz Vegetto virtue of being "faster than time," while the cast as a whole can perceive "faster than time "and that's utter Bulls***, and I like Wakfu. Allot, like Nox is in my top 9. I mean seriously. ![]() Are we really gonna make it so this guy is faster than Vegetto and ssjgssj Goku? Edited by Tinny, May 17 2016, 11:30 PM.
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| I'll Take This | May 18 2016, 12:56 AM Post #57 |
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Not it's not. Nappa Attack > Piccolo blast to the moon which destroyed the moon. It's the potency is the attack not the radius, DBZ can control their Ki. Ulq is garbage, his destruction rivals King Piccolo attack which only destroy a city and Goku tanked that. Your assuming he is. Gohan and Krillin literally train in illusions on the way to Namek. Chaotizu TK couldn't even do anything against Nappa. Don't think DBZ guys don't have resistance to Hax and granted it's not like Bleach hax is good enough any ways. DBZ are fighters, they dodge everything that's stronger then them. and AsNodt lol you mean that guy who puts fear into people ? Piccolo destroys releases a blast and vaporizes that weakling with ease. Don't bring that garbage into this debate, Asnodt would fear for it's life when he notices someone can easily kill her by staring at her. Seriously your own expectations doesn't mean anything. Nappa lifts 2 fingers and wipes them all out, none of them have moon level durability thus it's easily for a moon level character to wipe them all out. Edited by I'll Take This, May 18 2016, 01:00 AM.
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| I'll Take This | May 18 2016, 12:59 AM Post #58 |
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The best destruction they had was destroying a country level meteor. In terms of power even 23rd Goku is above them. People talked about Yamamoto million degrees yet it takes far more energy to destroy a moon then release 15 million degrees. Which DBZ guys tank. |
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| Tinny | May 18 2016, 01:13 AM Post #59 |
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Just want to point out that the moon is freaking puny in Dragon Ball, case it point, the Rabbit Gang. Destroying that doesn't mean you're moon level at all (moon busting is based off our moon, not just any old moon), Piccolo Jr's mountain range destroying blast was much more impressive, as was Nappa's city buster, both of which are larger than the Dragon Ball moon, and considering Vegeta looked left and right rather than up for the moon during the saiyan saga, I think we can safely assume that the moon hasn't changed and become the moon we're all used to by the time the saiyans arrived. Also when was that stated in Dragon Ball about the degrees needed to destroy the moon? If you're using calcs, I should state they're not allowed here, there's a rule directly against it if you'll check them. http://dbzf.co.uk/topic/8373051/1/#new
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| EMIYA | May 18 2016, 01:36 AM Post #60 |
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Nobody in Dragon Ball has come anywhere near surviving 15 million degrees. Dragon Ball Super had Vegeta taking issue with Magetta's magma temperature and the oxygen deprivation alone. There's nothing in DBZ that says they're taking on those kind of temperatures. Even an exploding planet isn't noted to reach those temperatures so there's nothing we can go on from there. The movies don't help much either. Give, as I said before, credit to Cooler for surviving the surface of the sun, but the surface ain't no 15 million degrees. SSJ2 Movie 10 Gohan though lava was the only way to kill Broly and believe me, that isn't getting near Core Sun temperatures. At best, we have GT Goku having difficulties with Sun Surface temperatures. Nouva, being the guy he is might be able to survive it along with Super Yi Xing Long and SSj4 Gogeta on virtue of just being so much more massively powerful than the former. At this point, it would take a very select few to want to tango with Bankai Yamamoto. It would take guys with powers that aren't necessarily physical in their approach. They better hope that a good ki blast can be fired, and be able to get passed the intense energy radiating from Yamamoto or maybe even have some anti-Bankai ability of some sort to just get rid of it. Aizen, a perfect illusionist creating bastard whose full power Hado 90 Kurohitsugi could distort the very fabric of space itself and Ywach, a nigh omniscient, all powerful Quincy King God who can obtain the massive amount of abilities of his fellow Quincy, did not dare try to face Yamamoto's flames because Grandpa Genocide was too extreme. I can say this for certain. Nobody in Super is taking on 15 million degrees, not after the feats we've seen. Nobody in the movies is taking on 15 million degrees, at best taking anywhere between magma to sun surface temperatures (ironically the weaker character survived the sun while the much stronger ones were going to die against magma, Cooler too haexed) It took SSJ4 Evil Dragon Arc Goku to even get up to Sun Surface Temperature and that still harmed him. And there's yet to be anything I've seen in the manga or anime that has come to match the power of 15 million degrees. Old Man Genocide too extreme, please nerf. |
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