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| Venom 2009 | May 15 2016, 09:48 PM Post #1 |
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How far would Everyone and Everything in the Bleach Franchise as One Big Team make it in Dragon Ball, Z, GT, and Super? |
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| + Steve | May 16 2016, 08:21 PM Post #16 |
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I don't think so... Maybe he just imagined himself being alive and once his imagination was broken he just kind of died... Or perhaps Juha took his power because he was defeated. Really though Kubo has wrote himself in to a hole with Juha, considering he has the powers of ALL the Quincies defeated thus far. Pretty much the only non stupid way to beat him now is for Ichigo to uncharacteristically have his own reality warping powers Unless he does just completely null Juha's power for some contrived reason. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 16 2016, 08:43 PM Post #17 |
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滅Are you frightened?
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I always figured absolute zero was literally zero degrees. Thanks for the enlightenment. |
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| lazerbem | May 16 2016, 08:52 PM Post #18 |
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It's zero degrees Kelvin |
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| PocketGod | May 16 2016, 09:30 PM Post #19 |
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Yup all that hax is nice and all but too bad no one besides Ywach and that ink guy has the speed to even keep up in the Saiyan saga let alone the buu saga, what the hell is wrong with you people? XD |
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| Tinny | May 16 2016, 09:33 PM Post #20 |
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Well, you could prove that they're faster than the One Piece characters instead of putting up laughing emoticons. Seriously I know nothing about OP, but even I know that you're generally supposed to provide backing for arguments instead of laughing like it's soooooo obvious. And frankly even if it is that obvious then it should be child's play to prove everyone saying One Piece is faster wrong. So just do it. Prove they're faster like you know they are. Show a speed feat, or multiple speed feats, and prove it. This should be easy if you're laughing this hard right? Edited by Tinny, May 16 2016, 09:37 PM.
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| EMIYA | May 16 2016, 10:08 PM Post #21 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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Give me a list of characters who can defeat Bankai Yamamoto or even better...touch him. I'll start. SSJ4 Goku (Evil Dragon's Arc) SSJ4 Vegeta Nouva Shenron Xi Xing Long/Syn Shenron Super Xi Xing Long/Omega Shenron SSJ4 Gogeta And out of all of those, only the last two can probably handle Yamamoto's intense temperatures without having to worry about damaging themselves that much. That's what the DBZ and other verses are facing, those single people who just have insane abilities that no amount of strength or speed is going to stop. At this point, Babidi and his magic have a better chance of dealing with Bleach than the sheer ki or strength of the fighters. |
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| + Solid Snake | May 16 2016, 10:25 PM Post #22 |
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What about Eis Shenron? Can't he manipulate ice to the extent of Toshiro or Rukia? Do you think Naturon Shenron can probably get him by surprise and steal his body? |
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| EMIYA | May 16 2016, 10:53 PM Post #23 |
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"I am the bone of my sword."
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As far as I know...and by all means correct me if I'm wrong, I don't think Eis can reach up to Absolute Zero. He probably has the same level of...temperature zone as Rukia and Hitsuguya but I doubt he has the same level of expertise when it comes to controlling ice, but then again I could be wrong there. I'm not sure how he's going to survive Yamamoto's Bankai though. As for Nautron, I'm not sure, its been a while since I've seen him fight. If he doesn't have to physically get near Yamamoto, sure I see no reason why his body steal won't work. One of the biggest problems besides the intense heat with Yamamoto is the sheer scale expands over. Everyone across Seretei was feeling this and if it had gone on, he would have started destroy dimensions. |
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| PocketGod | May 16 2016, 10:56 PM Post #24 |
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Eeerrmmm I think you're in the wrong thread, this is Bleach vs DB/Z/GT/Super not One Piece :P You're looking for the One Piece vs The Saiyans thread. |
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| Tinny | May 16 2016, 11:06 PM Post #25 |
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They blend together for me, I don't know anything about Bleach either. And the problems still stand. Evidence is needed. Not emoticons. I can do that easily: Evidence is what's important here. Just laughing does nothing but make you look like a jerk. And if you're gonna do that, you could at least provide evidence with it. Edited by Tinny, May 16 2016, 11:08 PM.
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| + Steve | May 16 2016, 11:21 PM Post #26 |
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Bleach characters are quite fast indeed. They move fast enough that it appears they're almost teleporting. One guy can move so fast that he can practically create a clone of himself. Not an afterimage, he's effectively in 3 places at once. I don't think they'd get past Z for speed but the most broken powers don't even need to as they're AoE things. Barragan can just go have a nap, nobody can get near him. Also a number of characters can just basically warp in to other dimensions so the whole busting argument definitely doesn't work here before people throw that out as usual. |
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| PocketGod | May 16 2016, 11:22 PM Post #27 |
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Anyway just go look at the character Profiles over at http://vsbattles.wikia.com/ You'll see that the Bleach characters are vastly inferior in every stat besides Hax when compared to even DBZ characters. Here's the profiles for bleach -> http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Bleach Here's the profiles for DBZ -> http://vsbattles.wikia.com/wiki/Dragon_Ball |
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| Mihawk | May 16 2016, 11:22 PM Post #28 |
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Using only in-universe explanations, he doesn't even attempt it because he can't. He was pushed into a corner multiple times and never used "real" reality warping. Most likely because he was limited by Reaitsu. I mean you just can't ignore Aizen's statement. It wraps around the entire series and makes you resort to PIS explanations way less. I'm pretty sure Gremmy did create life during their battle. He made a clone of himself and that was the reason he even explained the power in the first place. The question is whether he can imagine something as strong as Kenpachi. And by as strong it's obviously equivalent to anything on the level of that Reiatsu. The gap between him and the girl was probably massive, so he could play around and use whatever level of warping he wanted on her. Author's put these limits for a reason. Kubo isn't an award winning writer, but he does pay specific attention to abilities and powers. There's no reason to try to make this into a dichotomy of him being incredibly weak or incredibly strong. He's only as strong as his Reiatsu. While his ability probably gives him the ability to defeat someone stronger than him, it's made fairly clear it's not a no limits type of thing and no reason to force it to be one. None of Gremmy's creations were something outside of the power that Kenpachi couldn't deal with. The issue is creating a weapon that Kenpachi can't deal with. Direct reality warping onto a person is implied to be limited by the Reaitsu difference. Aizen most likely did face Respira. Barragan was a very prideful King before fighting Aizen. There's no way he'd bow down to anyone if they didn't defeat him by sheer force. Beating someone by hiding behind an illusion doesn't give the impression of defeating them through power. He says Aizen was "stronger" - hardly gives the impression of an illusion battle. Not to mention Aizen was mentioned to be the war potential of overwhelming Reiatsu recently. Which also reminds me of the fact that Aizen didn't believe he could keep Yamamato under illusion despite him seeing his Shikai and had to keep a specific counter for his ability. |
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| Tinny | May 16 2016, 11:29 PM Post #29 |
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Vs battles thinks Squall is galaxy level and thought Celestia was solar system level. I don't trust anything from them without evidence. |
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| PocketGod | May 16 2016, 11:35 PM Post #30 |
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All the stats, calculations, feats and scaling are all right there. I don't really know what you want then exactly. Also if you don't know Bleach why are you even arguing on this thread exactly? :V |
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