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Adolf Hitler
Tweet Topic Started: May 6 2016, 09:18 PM (1,828 Views)
~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	May 14 2016, 06:05 AM Post #16
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	That's entirely subjective.



Know'm Sayin'	May 14 2016, 08:36 AM Post #17
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	lazerbem May 14 2016, 02:58 AM Quote: . Prior to the Third Reich, it was a symbol for peace or harmony, was it not? Common misconception. While it's based off of it due to Hitler's belief in Aryan supremacy, it's tilted and the tilt is definitely a factor. Quote: What makes those two comparable? He's referring to Columbus being a borderline mustache twirler in his thoughts on Native Americans "It appears to me, that the people are ingenious, and would be good servants and I am of opinion that they would very readily become Christians, as they appear to have no religion." While he's not Hitler level, still a douche. That being said, it's not really the same thing. Columbus was hundreds of years ago, Hitler wasn't even one century ago. Hitler was far worse too. Whos genocide was more successful? Well one thing is for sure, which is that I haven't seen an indian in over a month but I see a jew every day . US wins again.
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Darker	May 14 2016, 09:46 AM Post #18
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	Know'm Sayin' May 14 2016, 08:36 AM Whos genocide was more successful? I haven't seen an indian in over a month but I see a jew every day . US wins again. That's because you live in Korea.
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Know'm Sayin'	May 14 2016, 12:10 PM Post #19
ZERO HOOTS GANG Posts: 248 Group: Member Member #12,785 Joined: November 27, 2015 Gender Male Country Korea Favourite Anime Full House What Browser do you use? Bowser Favourite Manga Billy and Mandy	Darker May 14 2016, 09:46 AM Know'm Sayin' May 14 2016, 08:36 AM Whos genocide was more successful? I haven't seen an indian in over a month but I see a jew every day . US wins again. That's because you live in Korea. ayyy lamow!
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lazerbem	May 14 2016, 12:38 PM Post #20
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Know'm Sayin' May 14 2016, 08:36 AM lazerbem May 14 2016, 02:58 AM Quote: . Prior to the Third Reich, it was a symbol for peace or harmony, was it not? Common misconception. While it's based off of it due to Hitler's belief in Aryan supremacy, it's tilted and the tilt is definitely a factor. Quote: What makes those two comparable? He's referring to Columbus being a borderline mustache twirler in his thoughts on Native Americans "It appears to me, that the people are ingenious, and would be good servants and I am of opinion that they would very readily become Christians, as they appear to have no religion." While he's not Hitler level, still a douche. That being said, it's not really the same thing. Columbus was hundreds of years ago, Hitler wasn't even one century ago. Hitler was far worse too. Whos genocide was more successful? Well one thing is for sure, which is that I haven't seen an indian in over a month but I see a jew every day . US wins again. The population of Native Americans was far smaller and the physical genocide was mostly accidental due to disease. It's obviously s*ty they were enslaved and had their culture obliterated(that's a different kind of genocide), which eventually led to most of the Natives in the area dying, but it's not like Colombus was sending out firing squads and deliberately slaughtering them just because they happened to exist(he enslaved them because they happened to exist though). Also, it wasn't all Native Americans that he went after, the fact that Native Americans have a low population is due to years of s*ty colonial policies that were aiming for a cultural genocide Basically, what Colombus did seems to fade into the background of other terrible colonial stuff. That's not correct, but it just so happens that nearly every colonial power acted like that. Hitler has uniqueness points since at the time, no one else was doing that. Again, not excusing either of them, just looking at the cultural perspective here.
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	May 15 2016, 05:29 AM Post #21
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	What are you talking about? Ever hear of the Holodomor? That's one of a few genocides that occurred before the Holocaust. Also it wasn't just Jews who were killed during the Holocaust either, Gypsies and homosexuals were killed as well.



Buuberries	May 15 2016, 12:14 PM Post #22
No Posts: 7,150 Group: Members Member #8,753 Joined: December 30, 2012 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime The Passion of Christ What Browser do you use? Christianity Favourite Manga The Bible	i came across a youtuber called evalion the other day and i cant tell if it's satire or not here's one of her videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvyT72oUfw http://therealistreport.com/the-realist-report-evalion/ Edited by Buuberries, May 15 2016, 12:18 PM.
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Goddess Ultimecia	May 15 2016, 12:19 PM Post #23
Posts: 10,145 Group: RP Moderator Member #8,473 Joined: October 26, 2012 Gender Male Country None	Buuberries May 15 2016, 12:14 PM i came across a youtuber called evalion the other day and i cant tell if it's satire or not here's one of her videos https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nYvyT72oUfw ColossalisCrazy and Leafy have looked pretty extensively into it. Her channel has been promoted openly by the KKK and she has leaders of the organization friended on Twitter. Combine that with the content and it is either the best made and convincing satire that has existed in some time, or she is actually for real.
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lazerbem	May 15 2016, 02:34 PM Post #24
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Jar-Jar Binks May 15 2016, 05:29 AM What are you talking about? Ever hear of the Holodomor? That's one of a few genocides that occurred before the Holocaust. Also it wasn't just Jews who were killed during the Holocaust either, Gypsies and homosexuals were killed as well. Jews was just one of the more prevalent ones, yes, I know that everyone Hitler didn't like got tossed into the Holocaust too. And the Holodomor while awful, was different from the Holocaust. The reason the Holocaust is infamous is for the mechanical efficiency of it. With the Holodomor, it was a forced famine. Also, the Holocaust didn't finish. If it had, then all the Slavs would have been destroyed. That's another thing, the Holodomor was incredibly petty and just a vengeful attack, but there was a reason behind it(a s***ty one). The Holocaust had no reason besides Hitler being a racist prick.
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Darker	May 15 2016, 02:54 PM Post #25
The Lord of the Dark Posts: 15,357 Group: Member Member #11,968 Joined: January 7, 2015 Gender Male Country Spain	lazerbem May 15 2016, 02:34 PM The Holocaust had no reason besides Hitler being a racist prick. Well technically all the germans were butthurt cause of jews immigrants and stuff. Another s***ty reason.
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lazerbem	May 16 2016, 11:41 AM Post #26
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	That was the reason for the racism, not the Holocaust itself
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Sam	May 17 2016, 03:09 PM Post #27
It takes a mere second for treasure to turn to trash. Posts: 24,391 Group: Community Admin Member #415 Joined: April 21, 2005 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragonball/Z/Super, Hellsing Ultimate, Naruto/Shippuden, Death Note, Hunter x Hunter, FMA:B What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball/Z/Super, Naruto/Shippuden, One Piece, Hellsing, Death Note	I didn't mean Columbus = Hitler, just that they were both monsters in differing ways and on differing scales. Columbus also said things like: quote from Columbus' writings They … brought us parrots and balls of cotton and spears and many other things, which they exchanged for the glass beads and hawks’ bells. They willingly traded everything they owned… . They were well-built, with good bodies and handsome features…. They do not bear arms, and do not know them, for I showed them a sword, they took it by the edge and cut themselves out of ignorance. They have no iron. Their spears are made of cane… . They would make fine servants…. With fifty men we could subjugate them all and make them do whatever we want. Spoiler: click to toggle As soon as I arrived in the Indies, in the first island which I found, I took some of the natives by force, in order that they might learn and might give me information of whatever there is in these parts. And so it was that they soon understood us, and we them, either by speech or by signs, and they have been very serviceable. Spoiler: click to toggle While I was in the boat, I captured a very beautiful Carib woman, whom the said Lord Admiral gave to me. When I had taken her to my cabin she was naked—as was their custom. I was filled with a desire to take my pleasure with her and attempted to satisfy my desire. She was unwilling, and so treated me with her nails that I wished I had never begun. But—to cut a long story short—I then took a piece of rope and whipped her soundly, and she let forth such incredible screams that you would not have believed your ears. Eventually we came to such terms, I assure you, that you would have thought that she had been brought up in a school for lovely ladys. Spoiler: click to toggle Endless testimonies . .. prove the mild and pacific temperament of the natives…. But our work was to exasperate, ravage, kill, mangle and destroy them... Yeah, a lot of the genocide could be attributed to disease but Columbus flat out said that in the end, if they were of no use to him, after he had exhausted them for labor and resources they would be destroyed like outdated machinery. Also, Adolf Hitler had many mentally ill patients killed as well as he viewed them as a blight upon the German people, another sad fact of the Holocaust that is overshadowed by other major factors. The German people largely were down-and-out after the Treaty of Versailles and Adolf Hitler came by at the right time with the right message to instill pride in a failing nation and also provide an entire race of people to blame for their struggles. This is just one of the elements as to why the Holocaust even happened. Though my point with Columbus was that genocide, no matter the numbers, had happened before. Concentration camps had happened before (I believe the first officially recognized concentration camp was actually in the United States; look up the Andersonville civil war prison camp. It's a harrowing piece of history. Also, thanks for the background info on the swastika. I did know, however, that it being tilted had major significance as to its meaning. However, generally, people don't immediately notice that due to its stigma which is why I didn't go out of my way to make a point of it. Edited by Sam, May 17 2016, 03:14 PM.
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lazerbem	May 17 2016, 07:46 PM Post #28
Posts: 10,662 Group: Forum Moderator Member #10,435 Joined: November 1, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Asura's Wrath(it counts) What Browser do you use? Google Chrome	Quote: Yeah, a lot of the genocide could be attributed to disease but Columbus flat out said that in the end, if they were of no use to him, after he had exhausted them for labor and resources they would be destroyed like outdated machinery. Key factors here are that he got closer to succeeding due to smaller population, so there's less witnesses to talk bad about it. What he did wasn't special compared to other colonial empires. This doesn't excuse them, but it makes them stand out less. With Hitler, what he did was considered evil at the time and was rather notable within the context of the 20th century(there were other mass killings, but they were rarely quite as mechanical as the Holocaust), so he's more remembered for evil. Quote: Though my point with Columbus was that genocide, no matter the numbers, had happened before. Concentration camps had happened before (I believe the first officially recognized concentration camp was actually in the United States; look up the Andersonville civil war prison camp. It's a harrowing piece of history. But the Holocaust was the first to be industrialized, that's what makes it special. Also, the Andersonville thing, while pretty bad, I'm not sure if it's on the same level. According to this site, a lot of the death was due to bad supply lines. While this happened in the Holocaust too, there are records of Hitler specifically diverting trains just to continue the Holocaust rather than the war. Also, it's not just the Holocaust that Hitler gets remembered for. It's also for starting a massive and utterly pointless war for no real reason other than he was a racist. Say what you will about pointless wars in the 20th century, most of them didn't escalate to bloody World Wars in which Europe got torn in half. Besides, it's not like Hitler is the only person to have their name go down in flames. Do you think people named Stalin, Mao, Osama, Hussein, or Kim have a fun time? Edited by lazerbem, May 17 2016, 07:47 PM.
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	May 18 2016, 01:17 PM Post #29
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Know'm Sayin'	May 18 2016, 02:13 PM Post #30
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