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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 25 2016, 01:54 AM Post #1 |
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Idk whether this has been discussed on this forum yet at all but what do you think? I think it's a horrible idea. I know a lot of people on this forum are liberals but here's my opinion: Yeah go ahead and make it ridiculously easy for sex offenders because you want to cater to the .3% of people who are transgender....geez. Your political correctness is out of hand and its gonna screw over a lot of people. You're not just catering to the transgenders, you're catering to sex offenders. That's me though. What do you think of this? Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 25 2016, 02:01 AM.
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| + Pelador | Apr 25 2016, 02:44 AM Post #2 |
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I personally believe you have to be trolling due to the sheer stupidity of your argument but I'll take the bait. I think the sex offender argument is a s***ty excuse to be bigoted. You really think a sex offender is going to pretend to be transgender just to try and assault people in a public toilet? It's a paper thin argument invented to cover up hatred. It's connected with the very wrong idea that homosexuals and paedophiles are the same thing. I feel I should also lecture you on empathy. Put yourself in the shoes of a person who in their mind is one gender but is physically the opposite. But you're not allowed to use a toilet for the gender you identify with. Instead you must be content with the awkward feeling of using the other one. If I was forced to use the girl's toilets I'd feel really creepy about it. Like I just didn't belong in there. And because of this silly notion that a bunch of creeps are going to cross dress to do what exactly? Peep under the stalls? You're forced to feel like a creeper for something that's probably never going to even happen. Get the f*** out of here with that bulls***. If I want to peep on people, I don't need a dress and a wig. A shoe camera or a camera phone are more than enough. Look at my avatar, I know a thing or two about genuine creeping and it doesn't involve sneaking into women's toilets. Edited by Pelador, Apr 25 2016, 02:45 AM.
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 25 2016, 02:52 AM Post #3 |
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You think I hate transgender people? Dude this isn't an excuse. This is reality. Yes I absolutely think people will fake being a transgender so they can go into the other bathroom and try sexually assault someone. Sound too far fetched? Well it's not. My mom got stalked in a f***ing grocery store one time. Can you imagine if she went to the bathroom and a guy was allowed to follow her in because "oh he's probably just a transgender"? I know it sucks for transgendered because they have to feel awkward about being forced into a certain bathroom but I don't think that's enough to warrant this. This is not worth catering to such a small percentage of people. NO, f*** THAT! I really don't feel like it's safe. Put yourself in a parent's shoes. What if there's a grown man in the bathroom with your daughter? How do you know he's a real a transgender? You don't. Know why? Because literally anyone can go in now. Why should I give him the benefit of the doubt? I'm sorry but I'm not ready to take this risk. There are literally around as many sex offenders in the U.S as there are transgenders!
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| + Pyrus | Apr 25 2016, 02:55 AM Post #4 |
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All of the males should just piss on the seats and see how long it takes for this to change. |
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| Daemon Keido | Apr 25 2016, 03:00 AM Post #5 |
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It is already relatively easy for sex offenders to molest victims in bathrooms. And those that do so to the opposite sex in opposite sex bathrooms are already doing it. Regardless of transgender-friendly bathroom laws, sexual contact with a person incapable or unwilling to consent is STILL a crime. This isn't legalizing deviant behaviour like your argument seems to be claiming. This is simply creating an obvious rules patch to a new aspect of life that is not illegal nor immoral to a good-sized majority. |
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| * Yu Narukami | Apr 25 2016, 03:04 AM Post #6 |
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If somebody's unhinged enough to sexually assault somebody in a public restroom, they're gonna do it even if they don't have the 'guise' of being Transgender. They're still gonna get caught and prosecuted, it makes no difference. Personally, I don't think that the Transgender community need to be punished because of a small number of criminals who may or may not use their identity as a means of not feeling so awkward about going into a public restroom and assaulting someone. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 25 2016, 03:08 AM Post #7 |
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People will sexually assault people anyway yeah but this makes it even easier! NO! This is too dangerous and I honestly cannot believe people are pushing for this. I can't imagine the scenario my mom or plenty of other women could've been in and actually want this law. These extreme SJW are asking for a perfect world but they need to wake the hell up. And they're getting their way! What the f***?! |
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| * Yu Narukami | Apr 25 2016, 03:11 AM Post #8 |
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Easier? Unless every single public restroom has guards situated outside of it, I don't see how anyone would have to declare that they're transgender in order to enter them. If they end up assaulting someone, it'll be known, as the victim will report it. Somebody who's planning on sexually assaulting people in public restrooms hasn't been waiting for this to happen before they do it. What's the plan? Say you're transgender, sexually assault a person and then get off scot-free because you're somehow immune from the law? |
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| Tinny | Apr 25 2016, 03:12 AM Post #9 |
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Because anyone who would abuse it like you're saying they would are doing it right now. This law changes absolutely nothing in regards to that. Personally I think bathrooms should be based on sex (that is, male and female, the genitals) rather than gender. Change the signs from the blue man and pink dress, stop thinking of them as men's and woman's bathrooms. This is fine too but I always thought assigning them by gender rather than sex is odd. Edited by Tinny, Apr 25 2016, 03:13 AM.
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| + Pyrus | Apr 25 2016, 03:13 AM Post #10 |
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PENIS or VAGINA. It's not a difficult concept. |
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 25 2016, 03:15 AM Post #11 |
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@nagito You literally just implied it's ok if someone gets assaulted because it'll get reported. I'm not saying they'll get off because they're transgender. Yes it will get reported of course but why risk letting it get to that point because??
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| + Ssj3vegito96 | Apr 25 2016, 03:18 AM Post #12 |
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What tinny said. Bathrooms shouldn't be based on gender. They should be based on sex Btw, sorry for the confusion. I don't think this is becoming a law is it? Isn't it just a policy for targets in that state? Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 25 2016, 03:18 AM.
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| * Yu Narukami | Apr 25 2016, 03:22 AM Post #13 |
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Again, are there gonna be guards situated outside of public restrooms? The idea's completely ridiculous. Somebody who thinks it's acceptable to sexually assault someone isn't going to think that saying they're transgender is gonna help at all, and even if they do, it won't, unless, again, there are guards outside public restrooms. I don't think that at all, just pointing out that them saying that they're transgender is going to make no difference. You seem to think that this would bring in a new wave of offenders, and that's just not the case. Anyone who would even think of trying something like that would be someone who's already offended; any rational person would see that saying that they're transgender isn't going to help at all, and those who aren't rational would get to that point somewhere in the near future anyway. |
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| + Steve | Apr 25 2016, 03:38 AM Post #14 |
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Got to wonder about this really, considering gender is more of a social thing and you're basically taught that as a boy going in a girls toilet you should feel like you shouldn't be there...does that really not apply to transgender people? 'cause surely up until recently what looked like a boy was raised as a boy so they'd surely have the teaching of "I shouldn't go in girls bathrooms because I have a penis" I can't imagine a transgender person would think about it all that differently considering they wouldn't have been brought up to. It's not like we pee in separate rooms by default we're told where to go and grow up on that. Would the feeling of "I am a girl" really make it that weird to someone who's been taught to go to the boys toilet their whole life? Their thoughts ought to be connected to the idea that penises go in one room and vagina's in the other. Different bathrooms could be a foreign concept, going from smelly piss stained male bathrooms to female ones would be damn strange in many settings. Surely that wouldn't feel natural considering they're different environments? Anyway to the discussion at hand I think mostly people would just feel uncomfortable having say a big bulky bearded dude next to them while they're doing their make up, of course this dude is actually a female but with a male body. I can see how that would be weird. Bullying might also be an issue with this if it were in schools, can you imagine having to take out a box of tampons in a bathroom full of a***** teenage boys? Ideal scenario would be to do away with urinals and just have stalls in bathrooms. It's annoying enough pissing in a urinal and having some massive guy unleash next to you and his splashback get dangerously close to you. Especially if it's one of those awful huge urinals and the guy has terrible aim. Get rid of that s***. |
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| Buuberries | Apr 25 2016, 04:47 AM Post #15 |
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Whoaaaaa, goddamn that almost hurt my knee. Pls be careful of that slippery slope, guise!!! |
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