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Super Episode 40 (24 April 2016)
Topic Started: Apr 24 2016, 12:30 AM (14,207 Views)
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ついに決着!勝者はビルス?それともシャンパ?
Tsui ni Ketchaku! Shōsha wa Birusu? Soretomo Shanpa?
The Conclusion At Last! Who Will Prevail? Beerus, or Champa?

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That was an episode. Goku jumps out of the ring, giving Hitt the victory because Beerus won't lift the rules. Goku wants a real fight. Monaka jumps in the ring, punches Hitt, and Hitt pulls a No. 18 and goes flying, presumably out of respect for Universe 7. Champa threatens to kill his team mates, but then, the King of Everything shows up. The next episode preview also shows us the new Dragon, and he's big, gold, and generally looks hella cool.
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Tinny
Apr 26 2016, 11:54 AM
Champa earlier nearly s*** himself when Goku and Hit looked at them wrong, so that makes things even more muddy.

Honestly I guess Hit's improving himself must be something insane, he did go to from .1 to .2 without any real reason, maybe that happened here. Though if that's the case was Hit just injured and that's why he couldn't fight Champa? If so how were they able shut him up with a hard stare?


Prince has the right idea I think at this point. The writers have no idea and don't care about how strong anyone it's, it fluctuates based on the joke needed and the plot's direction.
I still think Champa was above hit, Hit was almost s*** himself

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Later on, but during the fight he and Goku gave the cat a look, which got Champa to shut up.
Edited by Tinny, Apr 26 2016, 01:41 PM.
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Beerus also looked worried when Goku used Kaioken x 2, and instead of proclaiming that it was nothing to worry about and saying that he was much stronger, he went on to evaluate Kaioken and explain how Goku wouldn't be able to use it for long.
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Beerus did not evaluate the KK. Vegeta points out that Beerus doesn't understand why Goku hasn't used it before.
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sekzee
Apr 26 2016, 02:39 PM
Beerus did not evaluate the KK. Vegeta points out that Beerus doesn't understand why Goku hasn't used it before.
Yeah, that's on me, apologies.

Still, he was sweating over a regular Kaioken.
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Apr 26 2016, 03:29 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 02:39 PM
Beerus did not evaluate the KK. Vegeta points out that Beerus doesn't understand why Goku hasn't used it before.
Yeah, that's on me, apologies.

Still, he was sweating over a regular Kaioken.
Kaioken was still on top of his SSJB, which is starting to approach his level, so why wouldn't he?
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Apr 26 2016, 03:36 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 03:29 PM
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Apr 26 2016, 02:39 PM
Beerus did not evaluate the KK. Vegeta points out that Beerus doesn't understand why Goku hasn't used it before.
Yeah, that's on me, apologies.

Still, he was sweating over a regular Kaioken.
Kaioken was still on top of his SSJB, which is starting to approach his level, so why wouldn't he?
It can't be approaching his level if Kaioken x 10 SSB Goku was still weaker than him.
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sekzee
Apr 26 2016, 02:39 PM
Beerus did not evaluate the KK. Vegeta points out that Beerus doesn't understand why Goku hasn't used it before.
Yeah, that's on me, apologies.

Still, he was sweating over a regular Kaioken.
Kaioken was still on top of his SSJB, which is starting to approach his level, so why wouldn't he?
It can't be approaching his level if Kaioken x 10 SSB Goku was still weaker than him.
There shouldn't be a need for Beerus to feel some type of way if Goku was still below him to the point he'd lose easily.
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Apr 26 2016, 02:39 PM
Beerus did not evaluate the KK. Vegeta points out that Beerus doesn't understand why Goku hasn't used it before.
Yeah, that's on me, apologies.

Still, he was sweating over a regular Kaioken.
Kaioken was still on top of his SSJB, which is starting to approach his level, so why wouldn't he?
It can't be approaching his level if Kaioken x 10 SSB Goku was still weaker than him.
There shouldn't be a need for Beerus to feel some type of way if Goku was still below him to the point he'd lose easily.
So you think that Kaioken x 2 SSB Goku is near Beerus? If so, would you agree that Kaioken x 10 SSB Goku is waaaa~aaay stronger than Beerus?
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Goku just doubled his power out of thin air. Beerus does not understand the issues that arise from the strain of the Kaioken technique or how it works. Why wouldn't anyone be astounded at their pupil doubling his power in an instant?
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"I suppose if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6. Only, Saiyans rapidly increase in strength as they fight against strong opponents, so the longer they fought, the more that gap would shrink, and it might even be possible for them to eventually turn the tables. Incidentally, I guess Whis would be about a 15."

Even shifting that around a bit Goku might be close to Beerus now

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Apr 26 2016, 04:17 PM
"I suppose if Beerus’ strength is a 10, [Super Saiyan] God would be right about 6. Only, Saiyans rapidly increase in strength as they fight against strong opponents, so the longer they fought, the more that gap would shrink, and it might even be possible for them to eventually turn the tables. Incidentally, I guess Whis would be about a 15."

Even shifting that around a bit Goku might be close to Beerus now
Close? You mean sky-rocketed past Bills, right?! :ha :ha :ha
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Apr 26 2016, 04:13 PM
Goku just doubled his power out of thin air. Beerus does not understand the issues that arise from the strain of the Kaioken technique or how it works. Why wouldn't anyone be astounded at their pupil doubling his power in an instant?
They wouldn't be sweating bullets if they were simply surprised. We've seen surprised Beerus and he doesn't sweat bullets and nervously ask Whis about what's surprising then.

Then again Champa nearly s***s himself when Goku and Beerus looked at him the wrong way (there is absolutely no reason to assume the two are using some secret mind crush or kiai thing on him that I can see aside from wanting Champa to be stronger)... Before saying he'll take everyone on in same episode. So who the Hell knows.
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Apr 26 2016, 04:13 PM
Goku just doubled his power out of thin air. Beerus does not understand the issues that arise from the strain of the Kaioken technique or how it works. Why wouldn't anyone be astounded at their pupil doubling his power in an instant?
If the power is nowhere near his own, he'd just be a little shocked. Instead, as Tinny said, he's sweating and nervous. He has no reason to assume that Goku can multiply his power anymore, so the most logical conclusion in that context is that SSB Kaioken x 2 Goku is near Beerus' power, if not above it.
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I still think Goku and Hit together could be a threat to Champa, but not Hit alone, thus not contradicting Champa's backing down at their look, but standing up to Hit. Goku was in no state to use Kaioken x10 by that point.

Alternatively, he's just shocked that people (other than Beerus) are standing up to him, he's probably used to making people cower before him.

And as for Beerus being scared of Kaioken x2 Goku, it's not that much different than Freeza saying Saiyans getting to 10,000 is "too strong" for his liking. Beerus doesn't necessarily have to be scared at Goku's current power, but rather the rate at which Goku is growing. Goku still wants to beat Beerus, and he just multiplied his power out of nowhere. If Goku can keep doing things like that, it might end badly for him.
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