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Who should really be in trouble here?
Topic Started: Apr 19 2016, 03:09 PM (1,310 Views)
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Edited by Doggo Champion 2k17, Aug 16 2017, 08:53 PM.
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it just seems like she's placing her current mindframe into that old situation, so ofc now that it's over and all that it's going to feel like she was molested bc you guys arent together and s***. however, back then you were together and if you were genuinely just doing it in a loving way because you wanted attention from her and didnt force yourself on her, and backed off after a few attempts, then no it wasnt molestation.
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Yeah I wouldn't call that molesting at all, if she didn't want it then fair enough but obviously you'd had an established sexual relationship beforehand and weren't shy to touch each other.

If she was a nervous, inexperienced girl I can see why she'd feel that way but...well clearly she's an a***** if she's going to make it out to be that serious, as if you raped her while she cried in to a pillow or something.

I touch my girlfriend up all the time because she basically has no sex drive, it's the only way to get her interested really. It's totally fine if it's within the boundaries of your relationship and/or you do give up.

Huge difference between "no/I'm not in the mood" and rape/molestation, don't feel bad about it she wants you to feel guilty.


Maybe you should completely ignore her, she might get a little volatile and threaten you and then you can screenshot it or whatever and you have your own ammunition to fire back if she's going to be an a***** again.



Actually is it even legal to threaten someone like that? Like if a person has broke the law in some way are you still in the right if you don't report it immediately and just use it to blackmail the person...? Surely the law wouldn't look favourably upon that? Depending on the severity of the alleged crime of course.
Most likely both people would get in trouble so perhaps you could use that against her, at least to convince her it won't go well for either of you. Doubt she'd have the figurative balls to go through with it if she felt she might not get away with it.
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The molestation thing is hard to decipher. I mean, if what you're describing happened between two strangers (multiple advances despite being told 'no'), then that's not ok. You did have an established sexual relationship, but you mentioned that you had just found out she was cheating on you. Were you 'together' at that point? Or on some form of break?. Whether you were together or not puts the event into a different context. Plus, you said you were drunk enough to not be able to process the rejections, that could mean you were drunk enough to not realise how aggressive you were being in your advances (by no means am I saying you had malicious intent in your advances, but that you may have been more aggressive than you realised). Then again, it could just be a bitter ex trying to make your life a living hell. I honestly don't feel like anyone outside of you and her can really speak on that since you two are the only people who know the whole story there (I'm not saying you did molest her, I personally don't think it sounds like you did, but it's impossible for me to know).

In regards to the post-break up stuff you've mentioned, I'm sorry that's happening to you. It sucks that we can fall in love with people and it's completely out of our control who that's with and how they'll impact your life. I'm not well-versed in law or anything, so I'm not sure how much of a case you have, but it does sound like there's some harassment going on on her part. Maybe look into getting a restraining order?
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But apologising for committing a crime doesn't negate the crime itself, if the victim wants to press charges. If she genuinely feels she was molested (again, I'm not saying she does, from the sounds of things it could just as likely be her trying to hurt you), then she has every right to go to the police. Even if you didn't molest her (I'm on your side here, at most it sounds like a partner not being in the mood, which isn't molestation), she might feel like you did and in that case, in her shoes, a lot of people would go to the police. If that happens, you just have to trust in your own innocence and the competence of the police. Hopefully it doesn't come to that (and you may even have enough of a case to counter those possible claims with claims of harassment and the like).
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Apr 19 2016, 03:09 PM
This is going to be hard for me to talk about, but bear with me. I just need to get this off my chest, vent, and get some honest opinions so I don't feel so crazy. So please, no trolling on this one. I'm going to keep this as concise as possible.

Some of you may know that I've suffered through some pretty crazy, abusive relationships. This one is no exception. I have an insanely mean, bitter, borderline stalker ex girlfriend who keeps dragging me back into her drama every time I'm finally feeling free again. But let me get into what she's doing at the moment, and then I'll give you some background information for context. Long story short, she says that she's going to the police because I molested her. She sent me a screenshot of dictionary.com's definition of molesting, which is "unwanted sexual contact." I will admit, I am ashamed of what I did, but I do not consider it molesting. This is where I need your honest opinion. Putting this part in spoiler tags because it is mature.

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Anyway, she texted me a while back saying how she felt molested, so I apologized sincerely even though after everything she's done she doesn't really deserve an apology for anything. I told her pretty much exactly what I told you in spoiler tags. Well, last night she texts me again telling me she's going to the police. I highly doubt anything will come of it. What I did is in no way illegal to my knowledge; however, it does have the potential to reach my friends and family's ears and mess up my reputation.

Now let me get into what she's done. I've thought about going to the police in regards to her multiple times, but I've never had enough evidence. I just think it's funny how she wants to go the police on me for making a mistake and allegedly "molesting" her even though I sincerely apologized multiple times despite the fact that she's done all this, and I've received no apology. She has:

1. Framed me for keying her car. I received a text shortly after our breakup accusing me of keying her car, saying she had proof. I did no such thing. In fact, I think she did it to her own car in an effort to set me up.

2. Continued to borderline cyber-stalk me. I have blocked her on everything. I've even blocked her anonymous accounts that I know of. She continues to find what I've said online and text me about it. Personal things. She constantly pops up in my life even though I don't want her in it.

3. Stole about $800 from me. She stiffed me on rent when we lived together multiple times, used my gas card, and even stole it occasionally without asking. With what I've added up, all of that rent money equals at least $800. And that's without all the times I supported her and provided for her. This is the main thing I could potential get her for. I just don't have enough proof that I never received that money. She has refused to pay me back.

4. Threatened to destroy my belongings. Threatened to kill herself. Threatened to cut herself with a knife. Yes, all of those things happened.


There's probably more, but I'll stop for now. I know I screwed up, but I don't think what I've done is punishable in any way.
she is an attention seeker.


If she were truly molested she would run outta the house. I suppose. It is just a cheap a*** excuse of her to get your attention.

I mean if she doesnt want anything from you than why does she keep texting you ? It doesnt make sense.



Cut her out completely. From social media from phone everywhere.


And btw this molested part (if she wants to put that into policework) has no basis, since 1. You were drunken

2 She has no proof






PS: She threatened to kill herself? Okay ...contact a psychiatrists as she most certainly not stable in terms of emotions.....she needs professional


Because what she is doing is called emotional blackmail and so that it need to be treated by professionals, and it is a dick move from her ....
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Yeah, sounds like a regular drama queen if you ask me.
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Drunk isn't an excuse for law enforcement. Just saying.

But yeah, she has no proof of the purported molestation act. She can report it, but there's really nothing for detectives to go on. They'd probably tell her to come up with some evidence and come back to the station later.
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To put it bluntly, I wouldn't worry about it.
From your side of the story, nothing even happened anyway, and you two were going through a rocky spell in your relationship.

Even if she did file a report with the police, the police at a maximum would talk with you about it, and you could simply explain it as you were in a relationship, and now you're not, and you two are a typical exes... as in you hate each other.

Usually molestation cases in relationships are only taken seriously when the couple is still together, and the perpetrator has a history; therefore the police have something to go on.
Otherwise, they'd spend a ridiculous amount of resources following up every time a person accused their ex of doing something like that.

In essence, it's your word against hers; and that doesn't look favorable on her end considering the bitterness between you two currently.
The police will probably just brush it off as exes' quarrel; and (although not likely) might cite her for filing a false police report. This is unlikely, but they'll probably warn her to not do it again.

It's likely that nothing would even happen.
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The reason I don't have her blocked is because I'm half expecting her to just apologize and see the error of her ways. Maybe pay me back all the money she's taken from me. And also halfway to keep tabs of everything she says in case I need to prove that she's blackmailing me later on.

But the former reason is stupid and naive on my part. I need to just summon up the will to block her. I may do that later today.
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Apr 19 2016, 09:11 PM
The reason I don't have her blocked is because I'm half expecting her to just apologize and see the error of her ways. Maybe pay me back all the money she's taken from me. And also halfway to keep tabs of everything she says in case I need to prove that she's blackmailing me later on.

But the former reason is stupid and naive on my part. I need to just summon up the will to block her. I may do that later today.
I know that is really hard, but the sooner you decide the better you will feel after. Trust me, I know how u feel. Sometimes I even dream about her, and the memories.....and it was more than 2 years ago.


Just do it, and you will feel way better.

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Someone I know has been through the same thing. The only thing that I said was to be the better person, and just to move on. Don't force yourself to forget everything that happened between you two. Just try to keep the good memories of the time you spent with her in some place. You'll eventually get past everything that happened, and you'll be happy. I think that might help you. That's pretty much what I can say to you.
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Apr 19 2016, 07:08 PM
Drunk isn't an excuse for law enforcement. Just saying.

But yeah, she has no proof of the purported molestation act. She can report it, but there's really nothing for detectives to go on. They'd probably tell her to come up with some evidence and come back to the station later.
This thread kinda ruins that no? Pretty much why I don't want to post in this thread, lol. Also not legal advice, yada yada.

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Apr 19 2016, 09:28 PM
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Apr 19 2016, 07:08 PM
Drunk isn't an excuse for law enforcement. Just saying.

But yeah, she has no proof of the purported molestation act. She can report it, but there's really nothing for detectives to go on. They'd probably tell her to come up with some evidence and come back to the station later.
This thread kinda ruins that no? Pretty much why I don't want to post in this thread, lol. Also not legal advice, yada yada.
How does it ruin anything? :@
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