Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:19 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:14 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:05 AM

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 22 2016, 11:15 PM

Solid Snake

Apr 22 2016, 11:12 PM

Tinny

Apr 22 2016, 10:50 PM

Edgar Allan Bro

Apr 22 2016, 10:35 PM

I highly doubt Goku broke through his technique, just that he was too fast for him to activate it and/or he was predicting when exactly he would activate. If it were true it'd be stated or at least will be stated later. I didn't read the entire thread but I've been told that apparently this makes him supersonic which I find equally ridiculous.

It mostly has to do with this


If that's not breaking through the technique, I'm don't know what is.

Also it's basically me and Ssj3vegito96 debating as to whether they are faster than sound or not.

I think so far he's agreed they're not necessarily FTL and I'm agreeing they're not necessarily slower than sound.

Which if the arena is like, around 34 meters or so I can believe they're faster than sound.

@Solid Snake

If he were "faster than a time stop" he'd never have been caught in the first place. The fact that people caught in it can break out tells me that it's more like Nox's time stop than Dio's.

Goku can simply bypass it now. Case closed.

That's being a tad too dismissive especially since he brings up a great point.

How's it dismissive? Dude increased his time leap, Goku gotten so strong that it's practically ineffective currently. What's there to discuss?

The initial post and few others are arguing Goku is faster than time by this. That's what's being discussed, not if he can do it, but why he can do it. So by those saying he's too fast for stopping time to be effective, I'm saying it has more to do with relative power. Goku is too strong for Hit's time leap and thus it cracks, thus why Goku is initially caught before moving once again.

In that gif, both fighters are stationary barring Hit's aura, once the shot changes, both are interacting once more. That's all it is really. He's probably only faster then time leaping for however long that duration is currently. The guy isn't infinity faster then it cause he's not facing a true time manipulator like Whis, SKoT etc.

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:30 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:19 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:14 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:05 AM

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 22 2016, 11:15 PM

Solid Snake

Apr 22 2016, 11:12 PM

Tinny

Apr 22 2016, 10:50 PM

Edgar Allan Bro

Apr 22 2016, 10:35 PM

I highly doubt Goku broke through his technique, just that he was too fast for him to activate it and/or he was predicting when exactly he would activate. If it were true it'd be stated or at least will be stated later. I didn't read the entire thread but I've been told that apparently this makes him supersonic which I find equally ridiculous.

It mostly has to do with this


If that's not breaking through the technique, I'm don't know what is.

Also it's basically me and Ssj3vegito96 debating as to whether they are faster than sound or not.

I think so far he's agreed they're not necessarily FTL and I'm agreeing they're not necessarily slower than sound.

Which if the arena is like, around 34 meters or so I can believe they're faster than sound.

@Solid Snake

If he were "faster than a time stop" he'd never have been caught in the first place. The fact that people caught in it can break out tells me that it's more like Nox's time stop than Dio's.

Goku can simply bypass it now. Case closed.

That's being a tad too dismissive especially since he brings up a great point.

How's it dismissive? Dude increased his time leap, Goku gotten so strong that it's practically ineffective currently. What's there to discuss?

The initial post and few others are arguing Goku is faster than time by this. That's what's being discussed, not if he can do it, but why he can do it. So by those saying he's too fast for stopping time to be effective, I'm saying it has more to do with relative power. Goku is too strong for Hit's time leap and thus it cracks, thus why Goku is initially caught before moving once again.

In that gif, both fighters are stationary barring Hit's aura, once the shot changes, both are interacting once more. That's all it is really. He's probably only faster then time leaping for however long that duration is currently. The guy isn't infinity faster then it cause he's not facing a true time manipulator like Whis, SKoT etc.

Actually Hit is moving, albeit very slowly, however Goku is in black and white until he moves his arm and comes back to color with the red and blue. He was caught in it, and then broke through it and told Hit he was far beyond his time leap.

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:39 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:30 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:19 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:14 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:05 AM

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 22 2016, 11:15 PM

Solid Snake

Apr 22 2016, 11:12 PM

Tinny

Apr 22 2016, 10:50 PM

Edgar Allan Bro

Apr 22 2016, 10:35 PM

I highly doubt Goku broke through his technique, just that he was too fast for him to activate it and/or he was predicting when exactly he would activate. If it were true it'd be stated or at least will be stated later. I didn't read the entire thread but I've been told that apparently this makes him supersonic which I find equally ridiculous.

It mostly has to do with this


If that's not breaking through the technique, I'm don't know what is.

Also it's basically me and Ssj3vegito96 debating as to whether they are faster than sound or not.

I think so far he's agreed they're not necessarily FTL and I'm agreeing they're not necessarily slower than sound.

Which if the arena is like, around 34 meters or so I can believe they're faster than sound.

@Solid Snake

If he were "faster than a time stop" he'd never have been caught in the first place. The fact that people caught in it can break out tells me that it's more like Nox's time stop than Dio's.

Goku can simply bypass it now. Case closed.

That's being a tad too dismissive especially since he brings up a great point.

How's it dismissive? Dude increased his time leap, Goku gotten so strong that it's practically ineffective currently. What's there to discuss?

The initial post and few others are arguing Goku is faster than time by this. That's what's being discussed, not if he can do it, but why he can do it. So by those saying he's too fast for stopping time to be effective, I'm saying it has more to do with relative power. Goku is too strong for Hit's time leap and thus it cracks, thus why Goku is initially caught before moving once again.

In that gif, both fighters are stationary barring Hit's aura, once the shot changes, both are interacting once more. That's all it is really. He's probably only faster then time leaping for however long that duration is currently. The guy isn't infinity faster then it cause he's not facing a true time manipulator like Whis, SKoT etc.

Actually Hit is moving, albeit very slowly, however Goku is in black and white until he moves his arm and comes back to color with the red and blue. He was caught in it, and then broke through it and told Hit he was far beyond his time leap.

So what's wrong with the feat if he broke through it?

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:43 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:39 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:30 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:19 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:14 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:05 AM

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 22 2016, 11:15 PM

Solid Snake

Apr 22 2016, 11:12 PM

Tinny

Apr 22 2016, 10:50 PM

Edgar Allan Bro

Apr 22 2016, 10:35 PM

I highly doubt Goku broke through his technique, just that he was too fast for him to activate it and/or he was predicting when exactly he would activate. If it were true it'd be stated or at least will be stated later. I didn't read the entire thread but I've been told that apparently this makes him supersonic which I find equally ridiculous.

It mostly has to do with this


If that's not breaking through the technique, I'm don't know what is.

Also it's basically me and Ssj3vegito96 debating as to whether they are faster than sound or not.

I think so far he's agreed they're not necessarily FTL and I'm agreeing they're not necessarily slower than sound.

Which if the arena is like, around 34 meters or so I can believe they're faster than sound.

@Solid Snake

If he were "faster than a time stop" he'd never have been caught in the first place. The fact that people caught in it can break out tells me that it's more like Nox's time stop than Dio's.

Goku can simply bypass it now. Case closed.

That's being a tad too dismissive especially since he brings up a great point.

How's it dismissive? Dude increased his time leap, Goku gotten so strong that it's practically ineffective currently. What's there to discuss?

The initial post and few others are arguing Goku is faster than time by this. That's what's being discussed, not if he can do it, but why he can do it. So by those saying he's too fast for stopping time to be effective, I'm saying it has more to do with relative power. Goku is too strong for Hit's time leap and thus it cracks, thus why Goku is initially caught before moving once again.

In that gif, both fighters are stationary barring Hit's aura, once the shot changes, both are interacting once more. That's all it is really. He's probably only faster then time leaping for however long that duration is currently. The guy isn't infinity faster then it cause he's not facing a true time manipulator like Whis, SKoT etc.

Actually Hit is moving, albeit very slowly, however Goku is in black and white until he moves his arm and comes back to color with the red and blue. He was caught in it, and then broke through it and told Hit he was far beyond his time leap.

So what's wrong with the feat if he broke through it?

If he were faster than time, he wouldn't have been effected by time stop in the first place.
It's not a true time stop if he can beak out of it. Much like Nox's.

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:48 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:43 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:39 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:30 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:19 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:14 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:05 AM

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 22 2016, 11:15 PM

Solid Snake

Apr 22 2016, 11:12 PM

Tinny

Apr 22 2016, 10:50 PM

Quoting limited to 10 levels deep

If that's not breaking through the technique, I'm don't know what is.

Also it's basically me and Ssj3vegito96 debating as to whether they are faster than sound or not.

I think so far he's agreed they're not necessarily FTL and I'm agreeing they're not necessarily slower than sound.

Which if the arena is like, around 34 meters or so I can believe they're faster than sound.

@Solid Snake

If he were "faster than a time stop" he'd never have been caught in the first place. The fact that people caught in it can break out tells me that it's more like Nox's time stop than Dio's.

Goku can simply bypass it now. Case closed.

That's being a tad too dismissive especially since he brings up a great point.

How's it dismissive? Dude increased his time leap, Goku gotten so strong that it's practically ineffective currently. What's there to discuss?

The initial post and few others are arguing Goku is faster than time by this. That's what's being discussed, not if he can do it, but why he can do it. So by those saying he's too fast for stopping time to be effective, I'm saying it has more to do with relative power. Goku is too strong for Hit's time leap and thus it cracks, thus why Goku is initially caught before moving once again.

In that gif, both fighters are stationary barring Hit's aura, once the shot changes, both are interacting once more. That's all it is really. He's probably only faster then time leaping for however long that duration is currently. The guy isn't infinity faster then it cause he's not facing a true time manipulator like Whis, SKoT etc.

Actually Hit is moving, albeit very slowly, however Goku is in black and white until he moves his arm and comes back to color with the red and blue. He was caught in it, and then broke through it and told Hit he was far beyond his time leap.

So what's wrong with the feat if he broke through it?

If he were faster than time, he wouldn't have been effected by time stop in the first place.
It's not a true time stop if he can beak out of it. Much like Nox's.

Breaking and being faster then time is two different things. He only broke through it cause he's at a much greater power then what Hit is able to dish.

Against Whis, no matter how strong he gets he won't be sentient as the time reverse is active. Because he's effectively going back 3 minutes in the past. Hit's slightly, and I mean slightly, is going forward I believe so Goku can actually calculate what hr can potentially do.

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:50 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:48 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:43 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:39 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:30 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:19 AM

Tinny

Apr 23 2016, 12:14 AM

Solid Snake

Apr 23 2016, 12:05 AM

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 22 2016, 11:15 PM

Solid Snake

Apr 22 2016, 11:12 PM

Quoting limited to 10 levels deep

That's being a tad too dismissive especially since he brings up a great point.

How's it dismissive? Dude increased his time leap, Goku gotten so strong that it's practically ineffective currently. What's there to discuss?

The initial post and few others are arguing Goku is faster than time by this. That's what's being discussed, not if he can do it, but why he can do it. So by those saying he's too fast for stopping time to be effective, I'm saying it has more to do with relative power. Goku is too strong for Hit's time leap and thus it cracks, thus why Goku is initially caught before moving once again.

In that gif, both fighters are stationary barring Hit's aura, once the shot changes, both are interacting once more. That's all it is really. He's probably only faster then time leaping for however long that duration is currently. The guy isn't infinity faster then it cause he's not facing a true time manipulator like Whis, SKoT etc.

Actually Hit is moving, albeit very slowly, however Goku is in black and white until he moves his arm and comes back to color with the red and blue. He was caught in it, and then broke through it and told Hit he was far beyond his time leap.

So what's wrong with the feat if he broke through it?

If he were faster than time, he wouldn't have been effected by time stop in the first place.
It's not a true time stop if he can beak out of it. Much like Nox's.

Breaking and being faster then time is two different things. He only broke through it cause he's at a much greater power then what Hit is able to dish.

Against Whis, no matter how strong he gets he won't be sentient as the time reverse is active. Because he's effectively going back 3 minutes in the past. Hit's slightly, and I mean slightly, is going forward I believe so Goku can actually calculate what hr can potentially do.

Just to be certain, are you saying Goku broke through it because he's stronger than Hit and not because he's faster than time or whatever?

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if he's fast enough that he's countering in that very small time window that he has before the punch hits?

Goddess Ultimecia

Apr 24 2016, 06:20 PM

Hard to tell honestly, you have people like Ultimecia who have an absolute time stop, and then you have guys like Nox whom's time effectiveness is based on the power of the person he's using it on.