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How Fast is Goku Now? (SPOILERS)
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Apr 17 2016, 10:34 PM
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If you guys saw episode 39 of Dragon Ball Super, Goku incorporates his Kaioken technique with his Super Sayian blue form Multiplying all of the forms attributes (Speed and Power) 10x. Hit uses an improved version of his time leap (Which can now stop time for half a second) yet Goku was moving a abnormal speeds that he was still able to move even when Hit Stop time Meaning Goku Can move so fast that he can bypass the time barrier.
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Apr 17 2016, 10:45 PM
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I think he's right. I just rewatched(the gif wasn't loading for me) it and goku does move and right before hit punches him, hit is like "what the hell?"
So goku is faster than instant transmission and... time now?
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Apr 17 2016, 10:49 PM
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- Ssj3vegito96
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I think he's right. I just rewatched(the gif wasn't loading for me) it and goku does move and right before hit punches him, hit is like "what the hell?"
So goku is faster than instant transmission and... time now?
Yeah, Goku even Says "The level im in is now far ahead of your time leap". You can even see that the technique was still in motion which greatly surprised Hit (Some one who's hard to get fazed)
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Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
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It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
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Apr 17 2016, 11:08 PM
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So, I wonder if Instant Transmission is even going to be used at this point. If Goku truly is moving at the point that he's beyond space/time then he could logically get anywhere he wanted to be in an instant.
I guess we'll have to wait and see for the next episode to see how this plays out, I wonder if Hit's going to powerup his time control even further to where Goku can't break past it, if it'll make sense I dun know, but considering we're getting into trans-time velocity here I don't think anything's impossible at this point.
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Apr 17 2016, 11:09 PM
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- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it?
@goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
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Apr 17 2016, 11:10 PM
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Goku's a god now, I think he can be allowed such an ability through sheer force alone.
Besides, this show is ridiculous.
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Apr 17 2016, 11:11 PM
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It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Well It was already revealed/Showned that Goku did it as Time Leap stops time for a bit yet Goku was still showned to move while the technique was still in motion (Which suprised the Hell out of Hit). You also have to remember that this is a cartoon, anything is possible Heck Flash has done something similar to this.
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Apr 17 2016, 11:12 PM
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Yeah honestly it doesn't make sense but watching it again with subtitles...you can't get much more clear cut than that
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Apr 17 2016, 11:14 PM
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It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it? @goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
Right but logically Goku would need atleast three seconds of space in order to feel the effects of the vacuum in his lungs. If he's moving at a speed that can eclipse time then surely no amount of distance in a universe with our rules would take long enough for him to actually begin suffocating or feeling any sort of atmosphericless paralysis.
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- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it? @goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
It's unquantifiable. Either Goku's travelling at a speed that's still effected by Hit's Time Leap, or he's destabilising time itself (in which case there should be repercussions). Theoretically, even if a person travelled at a speed that's faster or equal to instant, they should still be stopped by Time Leap.
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- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Well It was already revealed/Showned that Goku did it as Time Leap stops time for a bit yet Goku was still showned to move while the technique was still in motion (Which suprised the Hell out of Hit). You also have to remember that this is a cartoon, anything is possible Heck Flash has done something similar to this.
Why doesn't Goku move at first then? He's initially stopped by the Time Leap, right? How can he be stopped yet register what Hit's doing and actually begin to move within the stopped time?
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Apr 17 2016, 11:20 PM
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- Apr 17 2016, 11:14 PM
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- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it? @goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
Right but logically Goku would need atleast three seconds of space in order to feel the effects of the vacuum in his lungs. If he's moving at a speed that can eclipse time then surely no amount of distance in a universe with our rules would take long enough for him to actually begin suffocating or feeling any sort of atmosphericless paralysis.
I don't follow. As far as we know, goku is only this fast when he's fighting. We don't know if he can travel long distances at that speed
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Apr 17 2016, 11:26 PM
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- Ssj3vegito96
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- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it? @goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
It's unquantifiable. Either Goku's travelling at a speed that's still effected by Hit's Time Leap, or he's destabilising time itself (in which case there should be repercussions). Theoretically, even if a person travelled at a speed that's faster or equal to instant, they should still be stopped by Time Leap. - BioBroly288
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- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Well It was already revealed/Showned that Goku did it as Time Leap stops time for a bit yet Goku was still showned to move while the technique was still in motion (Which suprised the Hell out of Hit). You also have to remember that this is a cartoon, anything is possible Heck Flash has done something similar to this.
Why doesn't Goku move at first then? He's initially stopped by the Time Leap, right? How can he be stopped yet register what Hit's doing and actually begin to move within the stopped time?
Time Leap was still active tho, You can see Goku forcing his body to move in the Gif i posted so it could have been a paralysis effect of somekind but the fact of the matter is Goku Tagged Hit When Time Leap was Still in Motion which is also supported by Gokus statement. Hit was to shocked seeing him move in freezed time to be anything else than Goku breaking the Laws of Time.
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Apr 17 2016, 11:28 PM
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- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it? @goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
It's unquantifiable. Either Goku's travelling at a speed that's still effected by Hit's Time Leap, or he's destabilising time itself (in which case there should be repercussions). Theoretically, even if a person travelled at a speed that's faster or equal to instant, they should still be stopped by Time Leap. - BioBroly288
- Apr 17 2016, 11:11 PM
- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Well It was already revealed/Showned that Goku did it as Time Leap stops time for a bit yet Goku was still showned to move while the technique was still in motion (Which suprised the Hell out of Hit). You also have to remember that this is a cartoon, anything is possible Heck Flash has done something similar to this.
Why doesn't Goku move at first then? He's initially stopped by the Time Leap, right? How can he be stopped yet register what Hit's doing and actually begin to move within the stopped time?
Time Leap was still active tho, You can see Goku forcing his body to move in the Gif i posted so it could have been a paralysis effect of somekind but the fact of the matter is Goku Tagged Hit When Time Leap was Still in Motion which is also supported by Gokus statement. Hit was to shocked seeing him move in freezed time to be anything else than Goku breaking the Laws of Time.
So it was a power feat then? Either Goku wasn't charging Hit using his full speed (which makes no sense) or he wasn't charging Hit using his full strength (which makes no sense).
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Apr 17 2016, 11:33 PM
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- Ssj3vegito96
- Apr 17 2016, 11:09 PM
- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Doesn't have to make sense though. Flash outpaced death, time, teleportation and according to you naruto outpaces teleportation too. But goku can't do it? @goddess travel speed is still slower and goku can't breathe in space. So going to King Kai's planet for example would still require IT. But in a fight I'm not sure. As far as I can tell, if goku's using ssjb+KKx20 I don't see a need for it
It's unquantifiable. Either Goku's travelling at a speed that's still effected by Hit's Time Leap, or he's destabilising time itself (in which case there should be repercussions). Theoretically, even if a person travelled at a speed that's faster or equal to instant, they should still be stopped by Time Leap. - BioBroly288
- Apr 17 2016, 11:11 PM
- Nagito Komaeda
- Apr 17 2016, 11:04 PM
It's literally impossible to move in stopped time. You'd have to either use a technique that lets you stop time yourself or you'd be breaking the very concept of time itself, which makes no sense whatsoever.
Well It was already revealed/Showned that Goku did it as Time Leap stops time for a bit yet Goku was still showned to move while the technique was still in motion (Which suprised the Hell out of Hit). You also have to remember that this is a cartoon, anything is possible Heck Flash has done something similar to this.
Why doesn't Goku move at first then? He's initially stopped by the Time Leap, right? How can he be stopped yet register what Hit's doing and actually begin to move within the stopped time?
Time Leap was still active tho, You can see Goku forcing his body to move in the Gif i posted so it could have been a paralysis effect of somekind but the fact of the matter is Goku Tagged Hit When Time Leap was Still in Motion which is also supported by Gokus statement. Hit was to shocked seeing him move in freezed time to be anything else than Goku breaking the Laws of Time.
So it was a power feat then? Either Goku wasn't charging Hit using his full speed (which makes no sense) or he wasn't charging Hit using his full strength (which makes no sense).
It dosent have to make sense since its a cartoon first of all as theres other characters in other media who have pulled feats very similar to this. Its a speed feat since Goku was already moving before the Time Froze. Gokus statement, Hit's Reaction and Him Moving in Timeleap shows that Goku broke the Time Barrier. He Point blank stated he was above his Time Leap now.
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