How come science think they knowing the origin of our universe but fail to understand

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How come science think they knowing the origin of our universe but fail to understand
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Apr 15 2016, 03:32 AM Post #16
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	Nagito Komaeda Apr 15 2016, 03:22 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 03:21 AM SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. Primordial Soup. Granted, it is just a theory but science supports the hypothesis. I have to say your response was the most coherent post I've ever seen you make and then it goes back to the usual posting style towards the end. Nagito Komaeda ; there's no telling when an asteroid could be on a collision course with the Earth and Actually astronomers have documented and predicted the course of any potential collision threat in our solar system and the chance of a catastrophic collision happening any time soon is improbable, but not statistically impossible. Sure, there may be something outside of our solar system on a direct course to Earth, but that would be light years away and by the time it does reach us everyone on this board would most likely have died millennia ago. Improbable, yeah, but when it comes to threats that can wipe out the entire human race, you can't just bank on it probably not happening. Unless the Earth itself breaks apart in the collision it's very unlikely it'd wipe out all of humanity in a single blow. If the last 3 collisions were any indication it'll severely cripple the Earths population of animals but it won't wipe them out entirely. Sine humans have sentience, we can prepare ourselves and ensure our survival, compared to dinosaurs and other prehistoric criminals who aren't.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 03:35 AM Post #17
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Triarii Apr 15 2016, 03:32 AM Nagito Komaeda Apr 15 2016, 03:22 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 03:21 AM SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. Primordial Soup. Granted, it is just a theory but science supports the hypothesis. I have to say your response was the most coherent post I've ever seen you make and then it goes back to the usual posting style towards the end. Nagito Komaeda ; there's no telling when an asteroid could be on a collision course with the Earth and Actually astronomers have documented and predicted the course of any potential collision threat in our solar system and the chance of a catastrophic collision happening any time soon is improbable, but not statistically impossible. Sure, there may be something outside of our solar system on a direct course to Earth, but that would be light years away and by the time it does reach us everyone on this board would most likely have died millennia ago. Improbable, yeah, but when it comes to threats that can wipe out the entire human race, you can't just bank on it probably not happening. Unless the Earth itself breaks apart in the collision it's very unlikely it'd wipe out all of humanity in a single blow. If the last 3 collisions were any indication it'll severely cripple the Earths population of animals but it won't wipe them out entirely. Sine humans have sentience, we can prepare ourselves and ensure our survival, compared to dinosaurs and other prehistoric criminals who aren't. We'd be able to survive, yeah, but it'd put us in an extremely dangerous environment and it'd set us back by a ridiculous amount. Even if the majority of people survived the collision, there's no harm in ensuring that there's a colony out in space or on another planet to make sure we continue as a species in case things do go balls-up on Earth.



~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Apr 15 2016, 03:43 AM Post #18
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	You're right, but it won't be in your or my lifetime.



Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 03:44 AM Post #19
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	It cannot just be a Primordial Soup, how does that tell us where the water (that covers 71% Earth's surface) is from? It cannot be from earth since the conditions were too extreme.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 03:47 AM Post #20
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Triarii Apr 15 2016, 03:43 AM You're right, but it won't be in your or my lifetime. Oh, definitely not. It'd take a few centuries to set up something like that, but if we start now, we'll be much more likely to reach it by that point. The later we start, the later it'll be finished. As for where water came from; could've been from an asteroid. I have no clue to be honest, but lacking an answer doesn't mean that the whole topic's a waste.



Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 03:50 AM Post #21
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	It's a waste if you add the total cost compared to the results we got. The United States seems to agree, they are cutting the science funding quite a bit and investing the money in other areas where it's more productive and we could see results. Does anybody have any idea of how much your countries are spending each year? Edited by Zoom, Apr 15 2016, 03:52 AM.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 03:55 AM Post #22
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:50 AM It's a waste if you add the total cost compared to the results we got. The United States seems to agree, they are cutting the science funding quite a bit and investing the money in other areas where it's more productive and we could see results. Well, the United States are making a mistake. People seem to think that science, more specifically science regarding space, is a complete waste of time because they don't think it has an impact on their lives right now. Instead of, I dunno, taking a little money from the overinflated Defence budget, they just try to strip science down to the bone. Pretty pathetic, really. Nobody seems to have a sense of curiosity or a thirst for knowledge nowadays. Out of curiosity, where are they investing that money?



Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 04:00 AM Post #23
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	2017 Federal Budget Pie Chart: 28% on health care 25% on pension 21% defense when compared to previous years defense was way higher and only at war times the budget sharply increased in space and science. Edited by Zoom, Apr 15 2016, 04:01 AM.



+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 15 2016, 04:01 AM Post #24
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	I just came across this video on YouTube and thought of this thread so I thought I would share it. It's pretty amazing and not too long so you should all watch it Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 15 2016, 04:04 AM.
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Apr 15 2016, 04:05 AM Post #25
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:44 AM It cannot just be a Primordial Soup, how does that tell us where the water (that covers 71% Earth's surface) is from? It cannot be from earth since the conditions were too extreme. Space. Specifically, comets. One of the 3 known impacts of space objects on Earth was a very large comet. If you're talking about 4 billion years ago when the Earth was first formed, yes, you'd be right but water itself doesn't just appear on Earth out of nowhere. While it may seem infinite, water is actually here in finite quantities. There's just so much of it right now that most people think otherwise. If you're asking me why this is, i don't know, I'm not a scientist, nor do I claim to be one. I'm also human, my understanding of the universe is here what I observe on Earth.



Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 04:22 AM Post #26
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Quote: Well, the United States are making a mistake. People seem to think that science, more specifically science regarding space, is a complete waste of time because they don't think it has an impact on their lives right now. Instead of, I dunno, taking a little money from the overinflated Defence budget, they just try to strip science down to the bone. Pretty pathetic, really. Why would they take away from the defense budget where North Korea and ISIS are looming around the corner? Defense is actually something that is valuable, defending your nation. If you're talking about starting wars or trying to solve other peoples problem, then yes, but why would you want to weaken your defenses when w.w.3 is knocking? Whereas NASA or some origin project from where eve, spend hundreds of billions a year just to find some rock on Mars... I'm just basically saying science could focus on more on renewable energy or electric or hybrid or something that will better all human life. They spend hundreds of millions of dollars sending Hawking to space, for what? Because he's famous and so he could experience 0 gravity? People there have to look after him and they have to send him back in the shuttle which cost a lot of money. Edited by Zoom, Apr 15 2016, 04:40 AM.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 04:30 AM Post #27
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 04:22 AM Quote: Well, the United States are making a mistake. People seem to think that science, more specifically science regarding space, is a complete waste of time because they don't think it has an impact on their lives right now. Instead of, I dunno, taking a little money from the overinflated Defence budget, they just try to strip science down to the bone. Pretty pathetic, really. Why would they take away from the defense budget where North Korea and ISIS are looming around the corner? Defense is actually something that is valuable, defending your nation. If you're talking about starting wars or trying to solve other peoples problem, then yes, but why would you want to weaken your defenses when w.w.3 is knocking? Whereas NASA or some origin project from where eve, spend hundreds of billions a year just to find some rock on Mars... I'm just basically saying science could focus on more on renewable energy or electric or hybrid or something that will better all human life. They spend hundreds of millions of dollars sending Hawking to space, for what? Because he famous and so he could experience 0 gravity? People there have to look after him and they have to get back in the shuttle which cost a lot of money. If the United States are cutting science funding in general, then it's going to be harder for them to do what you're saying. The Defence budget was, what, $585 billion across this year? You're saying they couldn't even sacrifice half a billion for something else? That half a billion is essential for the Defence budget? You're oversimplifying it to a massive degree. It's all but confirmed at this point that Mars used to be a planet similar to this one, and we're putting rovers up there to try and find out what exactly happened. If we can find out what did the planet in, we can make preparations so that won't happen to Earth or, at the very least, have enough warning to evacuate it. Speaking of Hawking, did you see what he announced last year? Along with a few other people, he pledged $100 million, and he's funding a project to build a spacecraft that could cross space at an insane speed. So anything they've spent on him is getting paid back through the work he's doing.



Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 04:38 AM Post #28
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	A Javelin missile cost $200.000... I forgot how much each bullets cost and body armor. What do you mean Hawking's work? I don't remember the exact words, but isn't something like 3 words a minute that Hawking can say/type? Also doesn't his grad student do most of the working outs? In his docs i just seem him giving them guidance. Edited by Zoom, Apr 15 2016, 04:42 AM.



+ Steve	Apr 15 2016, 05:07 AM Post #29
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	...it's still his work though. The student wouldn't be figuring all the stuff out without Hawkings mind. That's actually kind of an insulting thing to say, as if Hawking can't be useful due to his condition... Considering America is practically deserving of being called a hyperpower at this point the defence budget is ridiculous, way too much money goes in to drone strikes and other nonsense all for the sake of violence. Scientific advancement is a much more worthwhile cause. If most of the money spent on missiles was given to NASA they could probably be well on their way to building a space station for a colony of people. Instead we have politicians and whatnot only just agreeing global warming is a thing when scientists have been warning about it for decades.
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+ Pointer	Apr 15 2016, 05:12 AM Post #30
... Posts: 7,062 Group: Elite Member Member #8,812 Joined: January 5, 2013 Gender Male	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 01:33 AM How can science think they know the origin of our universe but fail to understand the simple things- 1. earths weather. the equipment used that says the weather is 86% of a sunny day, but in the morning it rains non stop. 2. don't know how life started. 3. they don't anything beyond evolution. 4. fails to understand what conscience is. 5. fails to understand how human brains evolved and why we are so smart. but we all to believe the scientists have it correct about the origin of the big bang 14 billions years ago, but they fail to understand our own earth? please. Our countries combined spend 100 trillion dollars on funding stupid projects and spending hundreds of millions of dollars sending a over rated scientists into space, they get paid millions just to day dream and the best they can come up with is we cannot get norther than the north pole. How about stop sending a useless scientist into space which cost a fortune instead spend it on hunger and poverty and war and disease. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kTF3smOE That is why I dont believe in science. Sure usually it is wonderful, when it comes to say how things work and why (in the general aspects of life) but when we examine the edges (subatomic particles and cosmic objects ) it has some flaws They invented a theory to give answer to any question, and a lot of people on the globe eat that s*. Bug bang is just a theory, a theory of creation. Yeah it is good, but it has a damn weak point since the basic idea of the theory is against Physics. Well whatever they used to say...".lets say it was this way but we just cant say how ". And thats the big part of the s* since this way I myself can also invent a theory of creation Lets say Zeus created the world..... he created it and everything after relies upon physics. See I put Zeus as the first mover...Its better than saying Big bang happened WITHOUT any cause. Saying this would be equal to saying to the tax company" You know I should not pay taxes after this money since I got the money by falling onto my head out of nowhere." Sure it is a weak metaphore but its the same.... the money falls onto my head out of nothing it has zero cause or pre-action (work at a job and thus earning it )



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