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How come science think they knowing the origin of our universe but fail to understand
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Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 01:33 AM Post #1
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	How can science think they know the origin of our universe but fail to understand the simple things- 1. earths weather. the equipment used that says the weather is 86% of a sunny day, but in the morning it rains non stop. 2. don't know how life started. 3. they don't anything beyond evolution. 4. fails to understand what conscience is. 5. fails to understand how human brains evolved and why we are so smart. but we all to believe the scientists have it correct about the origin of the big bang 14 billions years ago, but they fail to understand our own earth? please. Our countries combined spend 100 trillion dollars on funding stupid projects and spending hundreds of millions of dollars sending a over rated scientists into space, they get paid millions just to day dream and the best they can come up with is we cannot get norther than the north pole. How about stop sending a useless scientist into space which cost a fortune instead spend it on hunger and poverty and war and disease. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Er1kTF3smOE



~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM Post #2
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus?



Tinny	Apr 15 2016, 01:56 AM Post #3
Posts: 6,060 Group: Super Moderator Member #12,355 Joined: May 24, 2015 Gender Not Specified Favourite Anime Silver Spoon, Fate/Zero, Legend of Galactic Heroes, Space Patrol Luluco, Psycho-pass, Miss Kobayashi What Browser do you use? Chrome, Edge Favourite Manga Wizard's Soul ~Holy War of Love~	Because they don't know any of this for sure? these are for the most part the best guesses we have as to the true nature of things. That does not mean they will be correct forever, advancements in technology and thinking and so on will allow us to find out more of our world, until then, we just go with is the closest thing to the truth that we have. Science is just as much about disproving what is believed to be true as finding out new truths. Also how the f* do any of those directly relate to finding out how the universe came to be? Someone studying the Big Bang isn't necessarily gonna be interested in meteorology. Quote: 3. they don't anything beyond evolution. 4. fails to understand what conscience is. And I have no idea what you mean here. Edited by Tinny**, Apr 15 2016, 01:59 AM.
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+ Pelador	Apr 15 2016, 02:06 AM Post #4
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	You do understand that thanks to science, most of the world can now be fed? This man saved billions of people from inevitable famine. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Norman_Borlaug These people cured polio. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polio_vaccine Paul Lauterbur and Sir Peter Mansfield basically invented the MRI scanner during the 1970s which has since been used to identify trillions of medical problems. I could go on.
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+ Steve	Apr 15 2016, 02:33 AM Post #5
Greetings. I will be your waifu this season. Posts: 19,471 Group: Legend Member #5,710 Joined: February 7, 2011 Gender Male Country United Kingdom Favourite Anime Hunter x Hunter(2011) What Browser do you use? Mozilla Firefox Favourite Manga Berserk all day erry day	Hunger and poverty aren't really the problems of rich countries though we can't just solve that with money...why should our countries suffer for the mistakes of others? In the grand scheme of things all the people starving right now, while sad, don't matter at all in the face of furthering our scientific knowledge and hopefully getting off this planet before one of the many many things that could wipe us all out at any moment happen. Among other problems like cancer, AIDS and whatnot. Focusing on perpetual issues like poverty doesn't really help everyone, it makes far more sense to invest in the future. Poverty would be a non issue if someone invented a machine that could materialize food or grow it extremely quickly. Also "scientist" is way too general a term here. There is no such job as "scientist" they don't know everything nor to they claim to. A micro-biologist probably couldn't tell you s*** about the universe any more than I could, they're experts in specific fields and have no business in treading outside their focus. A medical scientist isn't there to cure world hunger they're there to cure diseases and such.
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+ Ssj3vegito96	Apr 15 2016, 02:47 AM Post #6
Posts: 10,327 Group: Elite Member Member #10,438 Joined: November 2, 2013 Gender Male Country United States Favourite Anime Dragon ball/Z/GT/S, Fullmetal Alchemist:Brotherhood, One Punch Man Favourite Manga DB/Z/S	Correct me if I wrong but I think what OP is trying to say is something along these lines? We are spending ridiculous amounts of money on stupid things like sending people into space when we could be putting that money towards something better. We will never be able to know the origin of everything in existence and our universe especially when we can barely understand things that are literally on an infinitely smaller level like the human brain and consciousness I mean he kinda has a point imo but lot of problems could be solved if we could send people to another planet and scientists have been working really hard to make it happen. We're pretty close to it too it seems with Elon musk's one way ticket to Mars thing Edited by Ssj3vegito96, Apr 15 2016, 02:49 AM.
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~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Apr 15 2016, 02:49 AM Post #7
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	One way ticket to Mars because you'll die there.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 02:58 AM Post #8
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Funding research into space is probably one of the best things we've ever done. Our time on this planet could be extremely limited; there's no telling when an asteroid could be on a collision course with the Earth and our only hope of survival is to head out into space. It's an assurance of our continuation as a race; if we can get a good base now, we can spend time working on improving it, thus be in a much better position if anything were to happen. As for scientists not understanding the Earth... There are tons of different scientists who specialise in different fields. You wouldn't expect cosmologists to focus on the Earth, would you? You wouldn't expect anyone but a biologist or a sociologist to focus on the human brain, would you? Whole areas of science shouldn't be scrapped just because you personally don't see a point in them. Any study that furthers our understanding of anything is worthwhile.



+ Pelador	Apr 15 2016, 03:01 AM Post #9
Crazy Awesome Legend Posts: 25,663 Group: Legend Member #4,634 Joined: December 12, 2009 Gender Not Specified Country None Favourite Anime HunterxHunter What Browser do you use? Firefox Favourite Manga Dragonball	We don't send that many people into space. There are currently only six people in space. http://www.howmanypeopleareinspacerightnow.com/ Besides, it's not NASA's job to do any of those things you listed. They exist to specifically study the universe and they employ thousands of people to do it. There are many organisations devoted to the study of human biology and evolution and the weather and they make advancements all the time. I recommend you check out New Scientist magazine and see for yourself.
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Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Post #10
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. Edited by Zoom, Apr 15 2016, 03:13 AM.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 03:20 AM Post #11
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. The origin of life is still being discussed, but it's not a question you can answer in such a short amount of time. We've only been looking at the Universe in a sophisticated, modern-like manner for a few centuries, and it's only been less than a century since we've had the technology to take a closer look at it. As for why Earth is 'lucky', it's in the habitable zone. Close enough to Earth to get the necessary heat and light, but far away enough so the atmosphere can protect the surface from radiation. What exactly do you think they use the money on? We've got high-tech telescopes, rovers, satellites, a space station, and the means to carry out thousands of experiments to test hypotheses. These questions aren't easy, and you can't point at science and say that they're wasting money because they haven't been able to figure some of them out.



~~Helvius Pertinax Augustus~~	Apr 15 2016, 03:21 AM Post #12
What will you do when you get old? Posts: 1,096 Group: Suspended Member #12,915 Joined: February 8, 2016 Gender Not Specified Country United States Favourite Anime Don't actually watch anime What Browser do you use? Internet Explorer Favourite Manga Don't read manga	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. Primordial Soup. Granted, it is just a theory but science supports the hypothesis. I have to say your response was the most coherent post I've ever seen you make and then it goes back to the usual posting style towards the end. Nagito Komaeda ; there's no telling when an asteroid could be on a collision course with the Earth and Actually astronomers have documented and predicted the course of any potential collision threat in our solar system and the chance of a catastrophic collision happening any time soon is improbable, but not statistically impossible. Sure, there may be something outside of our solar system on a direct course to Earth, but that would be light years away and by the time it does reach us everyone on this board would most likely have died millennia ago.



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 03:22 AM Post #13
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	Triarii Apr 15 2016, 03:21 AM SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. Primordial Soup. Granted, it is just a theory but science supports the hypothesis. I have to say your response was the most coherent post I've ever seen you make and then it goes back to the usual posting style towards the end. Nagito Komaeda ; there's no telling when an asteroid could be on a collision course with the Earth and Actually astronomers have documented and predicted the course of any potential collision threat in our solar system and the chance of a catastrophic collision happening any time soon is improbable, but not statistically impossible. Sure, there may be something outside of our solar system on a direct course to Earth, but that would be light years away and by the time it does reach us everyone on this board would most likely have died millennia ago. Improbable, yeah, but when it comes to threats that can wipe out the entire human race, you can't just bank on it probably not happening.



Zoom	Apr 15 2016, 03:26 AM Post #14
Posts: 3,426 Group: Member Member #12,146 Joined: March 16, 2015 Gender Male	Nagito Komaeda Apr 15 2016, 03:20 AM SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. The origin of life is still being discussed, but it's not a question you can answer in such a short amount of time. We've only been looking at the Universe in a sophisticated, modern-like manner for a few centuries, and it's only been less than a century since we've had the technology to take a closer look at it. As for why Earth is 'lucky', it's in the habitable zone. Close enough to Earth to get the necessary heat and light, but far away enough so the atmosphere can protect the surface from radiation. What exactly do you think they use the money on? We've got high-tech telescopes, rovers, satellites, a space station, and the means to carry out thousands of experiments to test hypotheses. These questions aren't easy, and you can't point at science and say that they're wasting money because they haven't been able to figure some of them out. Don't you find it funny that we can't answer questions that's related to earth and our solar system, but we can rest that the universe's origin is pretty much solved?



* Yu Narukami	Apr 15 2016, 03:29 AM Post #15
Izanagi! Posts: 12,330 Group: Retired Staff Member #6,446 Joined: July 3, 2011 Gender Not Specified Country None	SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:26 AM Nagito Komaeda Apr 15 2016, 03:20 AM SSj4 Gotenks Apr 15 2016, 03:05 AM Triarii Apr 15 2016, 01:47 AM 1.) Weather is a prediction, we don't have the capability to control it. When it says 86%, it's the chance of a sunny day, not how much of the day will be sunny. There was still a 14% chance for precipitation. 2.) Scientists do know how life was started, at least on the planet Earth. Technology is not advanced enough to find how life started in the universe. Maybe one day. 3.) What 4.) Actually scientists have consciences. There's a reason why people like Josef Mengele are abhorred for their experiments. 5.) Scientists know most of how our brain works and even why we are sentient and other creatures on the planet are not. There's still parts that scientists don't know about though due to something called ethics, which ties in to the conscience part. So I'm curious, what do you think the scientists who work to create sustainable, renewable, and healthy food sources and creating vaccines and cures for diseases are doing? Looking through a telescope at Venus? Why can't scientists predict the weather when they can be sure the origins of the big bang 14 billion years ago. Earths condition may fluctuate which changes the variables but it's on earth and we are on earth. The origin of our universe is 13.8 billion light years away and they sure the big bang happened and this happened and that happened, but here on earth they have trouble predicting weather and earthquakes. This is all in the result of spending trillions of dollars. You know what you do with a trillion dollars? How about doing something for the war veterans in the United States along is around 1.5 million and rises every year ? How about putting more money into the Los Angles home less shelters where a lot of them lost their jobs because of the financial meltdown from wall street? How about investing in alt energy instead? How about stop wasting a billion dollars for a blank picture? 2. okay, where did life on life originate from and how did it start, where did water come from? why is earth lucky for life and venus is not? These questions are only solor system questions, i'm sure the scientists who spend our money should know because they are so sure of the origin of our universe which is 13.8 billion years ago. The origin of life is still being discussed, but it's not a question you can answer in such a short amount of time. We've only been looking at the Universe in a sophisticated, modern-like manner for a few centuries, and it's only been less than a century since we've had the technology to take a closer look at it. As for why Earth is 'lucky', it's in the habitable zone. Close enough to Earth to get the necessary heat and light, but far away enough so the atmosphere can protect the surface from radiation. What exactly do you think they use the money on? We've got high-tech telescopes, rovers, satellites, a space station, and the means to carry out thousands of experiments to test hypotheses. These questions aren't easy, and you can't point at science and say that they're wasting money because they haven't been able to figure some of them out. Don't you find it funny that we can't answer questions that's related to earth and our solar system, but we can rest that the universe's origin is pretty much solved? Not really. The Universe is so vast that we've got countless examples of different phenomena that we can compare and contrast. Here on Earth, the questions that remain are very difficult ones, and when it comes to things like explaining exactly how the brain works, there are ethical concerns that were talked about earlier.



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