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Veganism on the Internet
Topic Started: Apr 14 2016, 04:56 AM (516 Views)
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Im not bashing vegans as a whole here but I'm sure you guys have heard of or seen some of those crazy vegans online. Well here's a story and my take on them

So one of my friends who is a bodybuilder. He used to be close to 400 pounds of fat and got down to 200 pounds of mostly muscle. He had a muscular body and felt the best and happiest he had ever felt.

Then, he decided to go vegan.
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tl;dr version: his health/fitness went to s***. He did everything he was supposed to for a good vegan diet but it didn't work out

So he's done. He's going back to a regular diet. He feels bad because the animals and the environment was his main motivator to be a vegan but in the end the diet just wasn't sustainable and it wasn't worth the time, effort, and his health

So what did I get from this? Those vegan body builders and other athletes you see online? Claiming EVERYONE should be a vegan? Bulls***. They need to realize that not everyone makes a living off of YouTube. They don't sit at home making videos of themselves working out and eating vegan food and trying to defame athletes who aren't vegan

For the average person who doesnt make money off their body but still wants to live a happy healthy lifestyle and build a lean muscular body(I'm not talking 250+ pound bodybuilder with 10% body fat that's ridiculous and probably not even healthy) it's probably not the most practical diet to be on. It's way too hard and unreasonable. That's not to say it's not possible. If you can sustain a vegan diet without negative side effects and still love the life you want to, more power to you. But a vegan diet is not for everyone and those rude a*** vegans on YouTube need to realize that

I'm not saying go eat as much animal product as you want. My advice is to cut back on animal product especially red meat and start incorporating vegetarian/vegan meals more often. You don't HAVE to completely cut it out though. It sucks I know the animals are dieing by the billions but there's no way you're going to put a complete stop to it. The best we can do is improve the situation so that they can at least be killed humanely and they won't have to kill so many of them and hurt the earth at the same time
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um it's kind of difficult to judge all of that based on one instance. if you had statistics then sure it'd be a stronger a claim, but, with the right supplements, vegans can get the nutrients and macros they need, so i question your claim of:
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tl;dr version: his health/fitness went to s***. He did everything he was supposed to for a good vegan diet but it didn't work out


also waht@this:
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Anyone who lifts weights knows that lifts don't just go down 100 pounds unless something is wrong or you just completely stop lifting or you lost a lot of weight.
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He gained weight but it was fat and wasn't as muscular as he was before. He also claims he got smaller


i mean was he really doing everything by the book? was he getting the right supplements? was he resting enough? doing bodybuilding, power lifting, cardio, martial arts, and everything else sounds like it would be exhausting on top of work and/or school along with some semblance of a social life.

i love meat, but ive come across vegans make better arguments than "it didnt work for my friend"
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I'm not saying it's not possible to get in everything you need from a vegan diet and supplements but I'm saying it's very hard to do without gaining fat and feeling sick

Idk how he got smaller it's weird. Same thing happened to hodge twins though. They gained weight(fat) and got smaller. I saw before and after pics. He was definitely more muscular before the vegan diet

It wasn't the the mix of different types of fitness that made him weak. He was feeling that before. That was the reason he stopped bodybuilding and decided to try other things

He is a busy person though and that might've made it worse. But that's the point that I'm trying to get across. Not everyone can sustain a vegan diet

It's not just getting in the right foods and supplements. It's the amount of food, calories, amount of training it takes to work it off so you don't get fat. It probably gets expensive too. It's not practical for a lot of people and that's why it's not a reasonable lifestyle change
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Yeah I've seen a lot of stories about how it's significantly harder for some to change their diet to vegan and bulk up, they have to put a heck of a lot more effort in to it.

If people want to do it and save all the animals or whatever then by all means but to preach it as the absolute best way to do it?

It's clearly not. For some people it might be but everyone is different.

Eat what agrees with your body.


I for one can't touch some vegetables, if I have even one slice of cucumber it makes me have horrible burps for ages same with tomato to a lesser extent.
And that's not because I'm afraid of vegetables those in particular my body just says NO to. Carrots, peas, broccoli, potatoes, all fine.

I'm not going to start eating whole tomatoes and cucumbers because some health nut said he lost 200 pounds of fat and made himself look like Arnold Schwarzenegger in his prime just by eating them every day.
Though to be fair all the vomiting would make me lose weight :rofl:
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Ssj3vegito96
Apr 14 2016, 02:22 PM
I'm not saying it's not possible to get in everything you need from a vegan diet and supplements but I'm saying it's very hard to do without gaining fat and feeling sick

Idk how he got smaller it's weird. Same thing happened to hodge twins though. They gained weight(fat) and got smaller. I saw before and after pics. He was definitely more muscular before the vegan diet

It wasn't the the mix of different types of fitness that made him weak. He was feeling that before. That was the reason he stopped bodybuilding and decided to try other things

He is a busy person though and that might've made it worse. But that's the point that I'm trying to get across. Not everyone can sustain a vegan diet

It's not just getting in the right foods and supplements. It's the amount of food, calories, amount of training it takes to work it off so you don't get fat. It probably gets expensive too. It's not practical for a lot of people and that's why it's not a reasonable lifestyle change
I watched the Hodgetwins too :p. They definitely looked much smaller after they became vegans. Gladly they got their size back
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I don't eat much meat and i am healthy. for one year the only meat i had was sea food, but mostly rice. i did lose a bit of weight but i never got weaker i got better.
it depends on your diet, some people need certain things.
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He is a busy person though and that might've made it worse. But that's the point that I'm trying to get across. Not everyone can sustain a vegan diet

It's not just getting in the right foods and supplements. It's the amount of food, calories, amount of training it takes to work it off so you don't get fat. It probably gets expensive too. It's not practical for a lot of people and that's why it's not a reasonable lifestyle change
how are those points specific to a vegan diet? it could apply to any diet. i could be eating meat and s*** (literally s*** -- love that s***) and still not eat enough and consume the right amount of calories so i end up getting weak, or i could eat too much of it and not train and get fat.
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The thing is it's not quite as easy on a vegan diet, at least I can imagine.
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He is a busy person though and that might've made it worse. But that's the point that I'm trying to get across. Not everyone can sustain a vegan diet

It's not just getting in the right foods and supplements. It's the amount of food, calories, amount of training it takes to work it off so you don't get fat. It probably gets expensive too. It's not practical for a lot of people and that's why it's not a reasonable lifestyle change
how are those points specific to a vegan diet? it could apply to any diet. i could be eating meat and s*** (literally s*** -- love that s***) and still not eat enough and consume the right amount of calories so i end up getting weak, or i could eat too much of it and not train and get fat.
Exactly. I never denied that. I myself along with plenty of other people are hard gainers for whatever reason(appetite, metabolism, whatever). And I eat animal product. It would be WAY more difficult if I was on a vegan diet
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Veganism isn't for everyone, in addition to not everyone even being able to.
Most people thrive better on a omnivorous diet, and humans aren't designed to eat either meat or vegetables exclusively. For example, you can only find long chain Omega 3s in animal products, and Vitamin B12 can only be found in sufficient amounts in animal products. The part that Vegans don't tell you is that many of them take Omega 3 and Vitamin B12 supplements in order to maintain those healthy levels.

Vegan diets are only possible now because we have developed supplements for the holes in that diet.

As for another health craze, the actual paleo diet is a mostly vegetarian diet with meat to supplement.

I honestly don't believe that I'd ever be able to go vegan. I always feel better after I eat meat, and get headaches if I don't. I've experimented with my diet to see if non-meat gives me the same results, and nothing has yet.

But at the same time, I eat A LOT of meat. I should probably cut back on it.
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